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Still playing with shims. Almost there!

Well I went with Brent Mize "The Coil Dr." I have to say what a great guy. But all of you already knew that. He got my starter and took a look at it discovering that it had been rebuilt recently. The only issue was the shaft was bent. That was the reason I sent it to him. I also didn't know what els...

Ha! That would do it!! I think you need a degree in engineering to get it out without taking anything else apart.

Take a look at my post https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=9508 getting rattles back on the road. I show the company that took my tank apart, cleaned it, sealed it, as well as the price. Now taking the tank out and in can be a challenge. For me it was easy. Of course I removed the steering colu...

I have to say go with J&M. John and Mike did a great job with my transmission. Now I'll warn you they will find everything that is wrong with your engine. That's a good thing. Imagine if you didn't find a crack in a drum and you tried to run your car. I also have to say that they are not the kind of...

Thanks for the replies.

So I need to get a rebuilt starter. I have a core. Who rebuilds these for the vendors? Are they all rebuilt by the same company? I think I saw that Ron is not doing them anymore. Recommendations please?

Thanks for all the info everyone.

Thanks everyone. Unfortunately I did not mark them when I took it apart. Even if I did I had to replace the flywheel, shaft, drums, etc. Everything was balanced and surfaced. I will mark them so as I continue to work the shims I'll put it on and off the same.

So I was watching some videos concerning the shimming of the magneto and one of the things the guy said was to align the Main Shaft of the transmission and Crank Shaft. Seems like it can go on 180 degrees different. How is this alignment done and why is it important?

Burger, I did 30 years in the Marine Corps. So...... Yes she has thought about it. She's in the Marine Corps JROTC in high school.

ChrisB. It's an original 67 Dodge Charger 440 L code. I just got the carb back this weekend. Hope to get it on the road soon.

You are doing a great job. Fast too. I'm still trying to get it together.

Thanks Kathy, She'll learn all that girly stuff anyway. Right now I look at it as my job to teach her to have the confidence to tackle anything that life throws at her.

Now I know. Thanks. that explains how they are attached.

I've got a question. What do you drive the tacks into? There is no wood in the door. Mine looks like there are fasteners in holes with no panel installed. Do the tacks get pushed into the holes of the metal frame?

Thanks Scott I'll give it a try!!!

OK. I know I need some advice. When I bought my Mag Ring they didn't have any surfaced ones in stock and said the people that do them for Lang's wouldn't have them for a while. I tried to get the gap correct however I have one side that is producing a larger than .040 gap. If I remove some shimming ...

Oh I know. I'm going to try to shave a bit more off the shims under the #1 and #2 area and see if I can increase the gap at the top and close it up at the #9 to #13. Sorry had to rethink this and fix my numbers. Ha!!

Thanks Scott. I was wondering if the measurements of .042 would be too much. I'm thinking that when the engine is in in the correct way it will sag a bit and close up the gap a bit.

OK. So tonight I shimmed the Mag ring in accordance with my measurements from yesterday. I was able to cut the shims by heating them up and then splitting them with a razor blade. Yes just like buttered bread when you drop one they land sticky side down. IMG_3587.jpeg After I attached the flywheel I...

So after work tonight I took some measurements from behind the MAG Ring. I made sure I had the 4 blots tight from the crank to the flywheel. I made a drawing of the measurements then I subtracted the Gap I wanted. I went with .025. I am open to discussion as to how big it should be. I figure .025 wo...

Congratulations!! What a job you did. Almost like you worked at NASCAR! That was fast. I've got so much more to go.

Well I finally got around to working on the GAP for the Mag Ring. Most of the day Saturday was spent on getting two of our other cars back on the road. Some Fuel filters got them right and I was able to work on the T. I read the article in the MTFCA Magazine and thought I'd give it a try. This is a ...

Arrived today. What a nice job. Very happy.

So today this gem came in the mail. I have a "fun Projects" kit for mine that I'll do later. For now this one will be a great addition. Thanks to Jeepbone1 for the nice work if anyone else has an opportunity to buy from him I suggest you take advantage of his good work. IMG_3564.jpeg IMG_3565.jpeg I...

She's always wanting to learn more. I'm trying to make sure she scares the boys away. He He... She does like that color!! Don't worry she'll end up with all this stuff in the end. Ha!!

That looks great. Lot's of fun!!

Ha!!! You can quote me.

Wow I never thought of that. That would work. Brilliant!

I was also able to paint the back of the dash. It had a bit of rust on it and although you will never see it I sanded it and put a coat of paint on it. IMG_3553.jpeg Then we put the 4 Dip pan on. I'll paint it once it dries. I can only imagine having to do this with the engine in. How you can catch ...

Well yesterday if you saw my other post you saw that I got the oil sump area cleaned on the pan. Today I was able to get the gas tank in. First I put on the new terminal block and wires. IMG_3555.jpeg IMG_3556.jpeg The tank went in easy without the engine, pedals, dash board, steering column, or int...

We could only hope to live and be as active as you. Happy Birthday!!!

Sorry I can't do the experiment. I was able to get it clean. The lacquer thinner has won out in this case. First I filled it up then went on a walk with my wife. I talked about the T and she listened, I think. Then I took a piece of safety wire on the end of my drill and spun it around in there with...

Thanks everyone. I'm going to try some lacquer thinner. Let it sit for a while and see what happens. I may take out the dam and clean it that way. I want to go less aggressive and then a bit more.

That maybe the answer. Or the kind that bakes it out.

Well I thought putting my engine pan in the sand blaster was going to be a good idea. That was until I talked to J&M Machine and found out that the media will get stuck in the oil drain. I thought I did a good job spraying it out with brake cleaner and flooding it with water. Nope. I can still put a...

Just bought it. He did a nice job.

She knows me so well. I have her working on everything with me. Old stuff new stuff.

OK so tonight I put the head on. Here is some videos of what I did. Yes I forgot to put the anti-seize on the bolts so I took them all out and put it on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p220qHzTJRw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8jDPK04Cgk&feature=youtu.be Using the torque wrench for the first tim...

So we are putting in the valves on the Model T. The spring compressor kept falling off the spring and I decided to compress the spring with my hands with my arms around Angie's head so she could see where to put the pin in to hold the spring. Then she calmly says: "So what are we going to tell the e...

Well first of all sorry I haven't posted in a while. Work, family, other car stuff, teaching shooting classes all kinda came up at once. So Rattles had to take a back seat. Today My daughter and I worked on the valves. It's been a long time getting them right. Once again J&M Machine helped me out wi...

So some things to consider. The adjustable lifters are taller than the original so yes you have to cut your valve stems. If you have valve seats installed you don't have to take off as much. If you don't have valve seats the valve will sit lower and you will need to take off more of the stem. When y...

He's 91. He should be able to do what ever he wants.

So today I took apart the cam shaft So I could fit the new valves. I know I did a good job sealing up the Cam shaft cover since I had to tap a razor blade in-between the metal to separate them. I ended up cleaning the cover up in the blast cabinet and repainting it. IMG_3501.jpeg I then put the cam ...

Thanks!! We will see how this goes I've used CLR in the past. That works great.

OliyBill,
So Ford made the steering quadrant with cotter pins? I thought they all came with rivets. Was this a 26-7 only thing? I'm already doing as you say with my blast cabinet. That good advice. Keeping the media clean will give a better result.

Thanks Scott! Now I understand. Kinda like perking coffee. I do have the rubber gasket.

Well I ran into a road block with the valves. The car had chevy valves installed and when i added adjustable lifters I had to have them shortened. Well the issue that I now have is that some of the seats were replaced and the valves fit fine. However, the ones with no seat were still too long. Can't...

Would they open up the tank and then solder it closed again? How can the water splash out if the cap is on?

That was my first thought when I saw the water pump. Today I ran water through it and it came out clean. No dirt not rust nothing. The fins don't seem to have any corrosion and as I try to move them on the tubes they don't seem to move. I think once I get the car running that will tell me for sure. ...

Thanks for the input. It's off the car so I think I'll fill it with some vinegar let it sit and then run water through it. When I get the car running I'll hit it with my temperature reader.

So the radiator that came with my 26 Touring was full of antifreeze and had no leaks that I could see it was not running. It did have a water pump on it as well. I'm going to get rid of the water pump and was wondering how I could tell if the radiator was partially clogged. I plan on running water t...

Yup that's your best place to find someone to work them or collect them. I grew up in Waltham the watch city. I tend to collect only Waltham's and Howard's. For me the older the better Key wind, key set, lever set. I say collect what you like. Some of them can be rare but I bet close to 98% of them ...

So am I. I still need to work on the steering column, coil box, and all the wiring. Lot's more to do but it's coming along.

So tonight after work (I still work for the Marine Corps, now as a civilian. Grateful that I can work from home) I started putting the valves together. Big thanks to John and Mike at J&M Machine. I sent the valves out to have a bit taken off the ends so they would fit with adjustable lifters. They t...

I've had my daughter in my garage every chance I get. teach 'em young to fall in love with cars and they will have no time or money for anything else. Ha!

Love Old cars, Old guns, and Old clocks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iB-gqdKVHU

This one is about 270 years old. Still going.

That's a neat T. I love the roof on the pie wagons.

That whole this is a work of art. Model T's seem to have no limits as to what can be done to them if you have a vision. You do incredible work.

So today I was able to put the timing cover on as well as the generator bracket. I hope I did it correctly. Here is how it went. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZOtiRKoP9M The tool made it seem easy to align the cover. IMG_3467.jpeg I used the new kind of seal. It fit well but I added a layer of se...

Wow John That's a great car!!!

Duey, My 64 has a round wheel his was dented. Ha!!

As always it was a fun ride.

Wow that back seat. What a great car.

Well It's been a while since I've been able to get out to the garage. Today I got the Cam Shaft in. IMG_3450.jpeg For those who have never had a Cam Shaft out of a T before these two blots have a dowel end and hold two Cam Shaft bearings in place. The end of the shaft is supported by the block. IMG_...

Got a chance to drive my 64 Imperial on Sat. We had about 100 cars. Everyone met up kept their distance and then drove about 70 miles. Someone had a 1963 Imperial and we drove together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I4nSlC7ILA&feature=youtu.be IMG_3440.jpeg IMG_3446.jpeg 1964 was a big change fro...

Any takers? Hate to throw anything away.

I also painted the Timing cover and Crank pulley.

I was also able to fit the center bearing on the cam shaft and get it to slide into the block. I thought I was going to have an issue with it but it went in just fine.

So today I received my transmission in the mail. I opened up the boxes and It was like Christmas morning. The guys at J&M Machine did a great job and I can't say enough great things about them.

Free just pay shipping. This was on my car and once I cleaned it up I found this repair. I know it's cracked and fixed but I can't bring myself to throw anything away especially when there is only so many left. So if you want it let me know. It's for a 26/7.

Well tonight I got the CAM Shaft out and the new CAM gear on. IMG_3388.jpeg I'm not sure this CAM bearing was in correct. The notch was not towards the back of the motor when installed. So the top part of this picture was facing the back of the motor. IMG_3389.jpeg Looking at this part of the valve ...

That looks great!

Here is a video I made to show what I was doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Vspt_A3ks

So tonight I tried to get the CAM out. I posted about that in another thread. So here is what I did today. First I pulled off the roller and saved all this in a plastic bag. IMG_3370.jpeg Next the felt washer came out. I'm going to use a neoprene one. IMG_3371.jpeg To get the cam out first the cover...

Scott good advice. Thanks for posting. There are many parts in the old car hobby that if you don't buy them when available you may not be able to get them.

Cam Shaft cover was off, valves are out and lifters are out of the way. Kerry you are correct. This motor and trans was bad at almost every turn. J&M Machine did an outstanding job on the transmission. I know the risk I'm taking with the pistons and some other parts. Just wanted to make sure I wasn'...

OK I ran into a bit of a problem with getting the CAM Shaft out. I took out the two bolts that hold in the bearing and I started to slide it out and it stopped moving on the center bearing. I tapped the CAM on the back with a big punch. It started to move and looked as if it was not together. I know...

Thanks for the info. I rebuilt my sediment bowl as well as got another shut off valve for near the carb.

This is the one that I'm using. The one on the car is fiber.

Thanks Scott!

What happens if you run one with the smaller float and a 26/7 gas tank?

Sorry Paul I just saw you PM. Sold to Paul. I'll call soon.
Thanks MTFCA!!

TTP One more time before I return it.

Congratulations on your retirement!!!

See the brass screw holding on the plate and the Magnet? That's what you found. I bet the little plate and the spool under it are still in the pan. Mags on.jpg You need to pull the motor and pull it apart. Hopefully you don't find what I did. Everything had cracks in it. Sadly you probably will. Unl...

Well I got some more parts in the mail. I just need the centering tool for the cam shaft cover. It's on the way soon. Just got this cam shaft gear and the blots for the oil pan. The last guy used regular bolts with no holes for the cotter pins. See I now have a brass car. Ha Ha Ha. To bad no-one wil...

So I mistakenly ordered two of these tools and I only need one. They cost 31.95 from the vendors. Anyone need one for 28.00 plus shipping? You get the one in the original packaging.

Here is a tip. If you order from Coker get the part number and then get on the Summit Racing WEB page. Type in the part number and get free shipping to your door. I did this with a set for my Imperial.

Do you still have these for sale? How do we get the 31.60 to you? Credit card over the phone?

Chaffins is open. I just ordered from them.

Just called Dave. What a great guy. Yes they are open.

Pleas post any vendors that you know are closed right now or that are still taking orders. With all this time staying home I know people are wanting to work on their cars.

Anyone know. I sent an e-mail to get my parts list in before the 1 April Deadline.

Just sent an e-mail to chaffinsgarage@pacbell.net. Hope that's the correct address. I saw somewhere that you will bill for the parts. Is that correct? Do you sent the parts with the bill? Or sent the bill I pay and then send the parts?

Thanks for continuing to be there for the hobby.

Scott Conger and Scott C, Does the Neway cutter also do the valves or just the seats. If I got new valves how are the 3 angle cuts made. Is that done at a machine shop? I saw how the cutter is used putting a mandrel in the valve guide and turning it to do the seat. Once that is done is it necessary ...

Scott I was thinking the same thing. I'm going to take it off and see how they did the job.

Scott I agree with what you are saying. The right way to do the valves would be new valves, springs, Valve guides, and hardened seats. My goal with this engine was to fix the transmission and drive it. As I started to take it apart I found some things that were done incorrectly. I'm trying to fix th...

Well today I took out the valves I was able to use a Brigs and Stratton valve spring compressor. Most came right out but some had some sticky oil. I was able to pull them out with my hands. I numbered them 1-8 and then put each in a plastic bag that was numbered. I'm going to clean them up and then ...

So I'm going to quote from John at J&M. "I balanced the triple gears today as tat is part of the flywheel balancing. They need to be weight matched. Have a look at the pictures off at 4 grams. After a spin in the lathe I have them at 3 tenths of a gram."

Got this out of sequence. The flywheel gets surfaced first then balanced. seem logical since you are removing material.

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