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Got 2 questions? 1st Can I attach the clutch spring to the drive plate and then evenly screw it down to the brake drum? Or will that put too much pressure on the clutch ring and the 3 pins that hit the clutch fingers? 2nd. After I compress the clutch spring the pin should rest in a small detent. How...

Neal This was the issue.

Well i got the clutches in. I'm using a Jack Rabbit Clutch set. So The first thing I did was soak the clutches in oil for two days then I scuffed up the new large disks. I stacked them as the directions said. IMG_4110.jpeg IMG_4111.jpeg Now I just have to compress the spring and then bolt on the Clu...

I agree we have to have some IT people in the hobby.

Anyone have an answer for the other question? "Also How far from the top should I stack them? The directions say start with a large one then a Jack Rabbit one and alternate until you have a large steel one on top. Is there supposed to be a measurement from the top large disk to the top of where the ...

I'll give them a little rub. The new ones I have are real smooth and seem to have a coating on them. Thanks!!

So I'm installing a JackRabbit Clutch in my 26. The directions say to scuff up the large metal disks with sandpaper so they are not smooth (I bought new large disks). My question is how much should I scuff them? Also How far from the top should I stack them? The directions say start with a large one...

I just had the same question for a 26 touring. I bet this will help.

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For the accessories like the dash light you can use anything as long as it's slotted and a square nut on the back. If you want to be original.

I've been twice. This is a neat show. Go and bring a friend who may not be in the hobby yet.

Well I posted how it all came out on my thread "Getting Rattles Back on the Road" I think I'm good. Thanks for everyones help.

Well I had a small victory tonight. I was able to put the clutch cup on and have the correct distance. I used two .042 and one .025 washers and was able to get a .016/7 gap. The book say it should be .015 to .022. This was with me just pulling up on it. If I got a small pry-bar in there I bet it wou...

Thanks everyone. This helps. now I see where they all go.

Thanks that makes sense.

Any Idea about the ones in Red?

Need some help with a screw set for a 26/7 touring. I bought a pack of interior trim screws at Carlisle a while back and I'm trying to figure out where they go. As far as I can tell the 7 circled in blue are for the dashboard to the cow. The ones circled in orange were ordered from Lang's and Are fo...

Yup the bushing is pressed in correctly. J&M Machine does a great job. They even made the drums. They also machined and balenced everything, and weighed the triple gears. They did tell me that i had to order a thinner washer from the vendors. Problem was they were all out. I have been able to get on...

Do you mean this side?

OK First if the administrator want to move this to the General side of the forum that's ok with me. Now for some pictures.

Here is the new shaft brake drum and bushing. You can see that it is flush.

This is what my cup looks like.

Thanks again everyone. This is all helpful. I'm going to take some pictures of what I'm working with. I have the upmost confidence in J&M Machine. I think my issue is the fact that I had to replace so many components. One small change and have a cascading effect on other parts. My clutch cup does ha...

Adam How do you tell if you have a correct 26/7 disk drum?

Yup RV was great to deal with. He gave me some good info as well. It's been my experience that most Model T folks are great people who like to help each other out.

Well I ordered a washer from RV Anderson and I'm going to give that a try. I think I have the correct cup because I was able to put it on and put the screw and key in all the way. I do think I may have put it on too far because I couldn't get the screw in and then I pulled it up just a tiny bit and ...

Thanks for the input everyone. Yes the Clutch hub I have fits the set screw. It went in. Turning the hub would work but rather than sending it out to a machine shop it seems easer to find a thiner washer.

Thanks Hank but I think that's going to be too big. Adam. I think the reason why is the three drums are new from J&M and the rest of the transmission was made from other parts because all my parts were cracked. The 3 original ones are .042 and J&M told me that I would have to use some smaller ones f...

I'm trying to find a .015 thousandth thrust washer for my 26/7 transmission. I have 3 of the original .042 ones and none of the vendors seem to have any of the smaller ones. Right now I have almost no endplay (maybe .001) so Mike and J&M recommended the .015 one. Anyone have any they would like to s...

I was able to pull the clutch cup up a fraction and the blot went in. I then tried to pull the drums up and down to see if I had any measurable endplay. The drums wouldn't move at all. I put my dial indicator on the inside of the brake drum (for fun) and the needle move about .001 thousandth with me...

Well today I was able to get out to the garage and put the drums on. You can see that here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4UeV94wAV4&feature=youtu.be However when banging on the clutch cup I went a bit too far and I have to get a puller to get it off. I needed one anyway because if the endplay is...

That's great!! When My daughter was born I asked my wife if we should paint the nursery a nice soft yellow. She agreed so I went to Home Depot with a 1967 Dodge paint chart and painted her room 67 Dodge yellow "Sunfire". It came out great! They were also able to match Hemi Orange Petty Blue and Citr...

Well tonight I got the Pac Nut on the pipe and put the muffler back together and on the car. I was happy to find no rust anywhere. Still at it a little at a time.

Congratulations All!!! Thanks so much for what you do for the hobby.

Well I got an e-mail from John at J&M Machine. He looked at my safety wire job and pointed out that the wire should be twisted as close to the bolt as possible. so I took it apart and did it over. I can't say enough about J&M. They are always checking up and making sure that I'm not making mistakes....

I had to order a fuel line and fittings so I could attach it to my original sediment bulb and the new style shutoff valve at the Carb, I bought from Lang's a while back. Well the 90 degree elbow I also bought didn't fit the nut for the end of the line. I called and Steve looked up my order and we de...

That's a big change. My problem is I can't get rid of any cars I have. Ha! I've had my Imperial for 30 years the Charger for 21 and my wife has had the Super Bee for 17. The 26 T is the baby I've only had that one for about 3. That GTX was nice. The Flanders 20 is a cool rare car.

Went out to fill up the tank on these two. Both ran well after sitting for a month. The Charger is mine and the SuperBee is my wife's car.

A bit of progress. My first safety wire job. Now for the Flywheel bolts!!

Harold,
Best part of this forum is all the reading. So much fun.

Harold,
Fun story. I alway think it's a good idea to get kids involved even if it's a bit dangerous. You must have been a tough kid to still be holding that lamp. By the way This is a touring. Not a speedster. Although I still need to add a lot of stuff. Ha!!

Tommyleea I just picked it up. It's about 85 pounds. When I was adjusting the gap I only had the flywheel on and off. I have seen some here with chains picking it up. Probably not the safest way to do it. Harold. Nope like you I haven't had been able to find one that worked easy. I used the Ford typ...

I'm in the process of putting mine back together. If you want to see what's involved take a look. I've got pictures and video as well. Here is the link. https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=9508 Just keep in mind that you are dealing with a 100 year old car and most of the parts are old, cra...

As always thanks for the advice.

So how do you like to safety wire you Mag Ring? Also when safety wiring the 4 flywheel bolts do you need to keep the amount of twists at a minimum so you don't have a bunch of wire on one side that will throw off the balance?

So sometimes you have to do a little bit on your T for a "well that looks good" moment. Today I installed the tail light. I know it's an easy thing but it looks good. Ha!! IMG_4025.jpeg I also painted these as well as grinder off the markings on the bolts and painted them as well. IMG_4026.jpeg This...

Welcome. Always good to get a new set of eyes on things.

So sorry to read this. Sad day.

I was thinking that's what you did but then I saw that it came apart. Just didn't want to force it.

So I'm trying to remove the universal joint on the top of the carburetor. I can see that it has screw slots on each side. The slots for the screws look like I need a watchmakers screwdriver to get them out. Is that how you do it. Do the screws just go into the X block?

I did put this out there before. My daughter named the car.

Thanks everyone. I was going to ask about that spring and clip. I bought one from Lang's does anyone have a picture of one in place?

So I have to replace my taillight. Most of it was missing. I bought a new one from Lang's as well as the three bolts and support plate for the back. The question I have is: Where does the taillight wire come from to connect it? Should there be a hole in the fender or bracket? Does it just come out t...

Well today I took apart the timer to clean it up. I didn't bead blast the contacts just the body of the timer and the studs and nuts.

Well that was a good show. Loved the cars and how they sound.

I posted this story in the off topic side before. Angie is my 15 year old daughter. Watch those springs! So we are putting in the valves on the Model T. The spring compressor kept falling off the spring and I decided to compress the spring with my hands with my arms around Angie's head so she could ...

1984-2014 What a ride!

I knew I recognized a car in the background. See that Fiat with the big number 20-B on the grill? Now look at the pictures that I posted of the AACA event in PA. That's a cool collection of cars.

Wow! What a car! I like all the stuff in the background as well.

If I worked at Ford setting this gap I would have been fired and sweeping the floor a long time ago. Ha!!!

So tonight I did a bit of organizing of parts. Hop I remember where all this goes. IMG_4007.jpeg I also took off my hood shelves and cleaned them up. Had to use a dolly and hammer to straighten some of the holes. IMG_4006.jpeg Now I need a bit of help. I was able to ID all my parts and labeled every...

So I tried to make the Gap a bit bigger. I was able to get the gap within the .025 to .040 of an inch. I tested the gap with a .040 feeler gage. I was unable to fit it for most contacts. There were a few however that were at .040 or a hair over. Take a look at where I am now in the video. https://ww...

Well that's all folks. As you can see I like my Mopars. Sorry for the bad pictures I just had my phone. Hope everyone likes them who couldn't go. Stay safe.

Went to the AACA meet in Gettysburg PA on Sat. Lots of great cars showed up even a tank.

So tonight after work I went to the garage and turned the flywheel 180 degrees and had the same heavy drag in the same spot. So I'll be adjusting shims again to get my gap to .030. That way I'l have some grace space. At least the crank flange doesn't seem to have any big bends in it.

Well I just got a call from J&M Machine. I'm going to turn the crank 180 degrees and see if I get the same tightness on the bottom. If I do I'll remove some shims and make the gap bigger. I'll try to get it to .030. Hopefully the crank flange is not bent. Yes one issue leads to the other and sometim...

So in answering the questions I have been getting. Yes the Magnet screws have been peened over. The magnet contacts on the flywheel has been surfaced. The Mag ring has been surfaced. I don't have the tool that you use to level out he MAG Ring. My goal was to get it as close to .025 as I could. I'm j...

So I gapped my Mag Ring and mad a video of how my gages fit. It has to be no closer than .025 and no bigger that .040. You can see that there are a few contacts that are a tight .025 thousandths. Will this be ok? The gage fits it's just tighter than some of the other areas. https://www.youtube.com/w...

So tonight I Shimmed the recently surfaced Mag Ring and I think I've got it. IMG_3861.jpeg Making sure that they lobes of the shims are not going to get in the way of the felt seal. Here is a video showing how I bolted it together and how the oil line goes in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N5y4un...

It's aluminum.

Not to worry. There will be plenty to rattle in the future. Ha!!

IMG_3849.jpeg OK I know what you are all thinking. What the heck is this guy doing now. John and Mike from J&M Machine try not to laugh too hard at me. So let me explain. I'm trying to get rid of any variations that I can. 1st I made a mark on the crank and the flywheel so I know I'm putting it on ...

Thanks! I'll be careful with it.

Thanks for all the info and pictures. My eccentric does have the worm gear edge. So does anyone out there know if the washer for the new pulley goes where I'm pointing in the picture.

Also what is the second hole for in the eccentric?

So I decided to put together my water inlet. I posted some separate questions to make sure I'm doing it right. Specifically the washer that comes with the pulley. I think I know where it goes now. Anyway here are some pictures of what I did. A word of caution. I had to put the main bolt in a drill p...

So I decided to buy and use one of those Ball Bearing pulleys for Rattles my 26 T. I got it all together and I have a Three questions. 1. A washer came with the pulley for the main bolt that goes through the pulley. I'm thinking that it goes between the pulley and the water outlet. Am I correct? Loo...

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I just got my mag ring back from J&M Machine. As always they did a great job. I was having a heck of I time getting the gap right. You can see my post "Getting Rattles back on the Road". Not only were there some contacts that were high some were high in on one part of the contact and lower on the ot...

Seems like I'm going to have to chuck up the shaft bolt in my drill press and sand it dow a bit to fit. Di you have to do that to yours?

Steve Jelf wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:12 am
It's a Model T. You won't hear the timing gear over all the other noises.

Ha!! This is so true.

So today some stuff from Lang’s came in. I got all the windshield rubber. Ball bearing pulley, fan shaft and nut. 4 headlight bulbs so I have spares, washer felt, in line fuse, 1926 engine support straps (already have the pan brackets. Also sent my mag ring out to J&M Machine. They were able to true...

This gives me hope for my 26 Touring. Looking great!!!!

Some more pictures.

Looks like the weather is going to be good.

He did mine as well.

So tonight I was able to clean up the headlight bar. I put a straight edge on it to get me in the ball park of adjusting the headlights. C8D06EC5-0866-47BA-810F-64CA6F9F255E.jpeg I always enjoy finding the Ford script on everything. I also got this apart. Had to cut the nut off. It was so bad it was...

I used the Ford Green that Lang’s sells. Seems to cover well. Not sure how it will hold up to the heat. Time will tell.

I used this and it worked great. Just put it on with the blots loose, center the cover, tighten the cover, remove the tool.

Still playing with shims. Almost there!

Well I went with Brent Mize "The Coil Dr." I have to say what a great guy. But all of you already knew that. He got my starter and took a look at it discovering that it had been rebuilt recently. The only issue was the shaft was bent. That was the reason I sent it to him. I also didn't know what els...

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