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To me it doesn't look all that exciting because of all the extra holes. Most cars don't have the speedometer cable, and unless you have a Ruckstell, then you have another hole in the middle of your carpet. If you have a steel firewall, then you would need to trim it for the indent too. I also have n...

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Kelly, To answer your question, the reproduction Rocky Mountain brakes will not work in reverse, while the originals will, this is due to their design. Many people want accessory brakes for additional stopping power, the faster you go, the faster you should be able to stop, but they are essential if...

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John,

That is what I was thinking, but it isn't built quite right to mount on a lathe "as is". I have been looking around for a while, and am starting to think it is an ID grinder attachment for for on old Covel grinder. I might make a fixture to adapt it to my lathe.

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I was able to get this tool from a school who was getting rid of things. I know it is some kind of belt driven grinder, but I am not sure its exact purpose or what tool to use it on. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-Joshua

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Mack and Allan,

The 28' AA did indeed use wire wheels. I believe they were manufactured by Budd. Then later in 28 or early 29 they were shifted to "disk" wheels with five lobes cut out of them-also by Budd. Both of these wheels were attached via lugs. I hope this helps.

-Joshua

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Unless I am missing something, I would think you would need to measure them before presuming they are TT. The angle brackets look the same as on the car.

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I think the two l-brackets are used to connect the front cross member to frame. Those would be R and L specific. I have no idea for the other piece.

-Joshua

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Email sent.

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Dave,

I worked with Elizabeth (the lady from classtique) to do the upholstery on my 23 touring. If it helps any, I have some pictures of the various layers as it went together. I also remember that there was a decent bit of sewing by hand to be done in there too. Let me know.

-Joshua

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Nobody has seen or heard of this before?

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Back when I was restoring my 23' touring, I was removing the upholstery from the seat springs, and found the original seat cushions were just upholstered over. I couldn't throw that original upholstery away, so they went to the shelf. Earlier today I was looking more closely at the cushions and foun...

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Thank you for the replies. I think I will try and replace the float valve. It is possible that it could be some dirt, but everything I see inside looks clean. New gas tank, new fuel line, cleaned out carb. No rust, or obvious dirt anywhere. The last tour I was on the only gas we could get contained ...

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I have had this carburetor on the car for 2,000 trouble free miles. I had to pull the engine for transmission work. When I re-attached the fuel line, gas began leaking from the throat. I checked the float height and is 1/4'' from the float to the edge of the carburetor (with no gasket in place). I a...

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Bob, if I remember right, the A and AA used the same body. Either way. Doesn't look anything like the latch on my 30' AA.

-Joshua

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Just cleaning and inspecting the front end and was wondering the proper procedure. I have always put the spindle bolt in until it bottoms out, but is not tight. Then I tighten the bottom nut. Is this correct? How should this be done?

Thank you,
Joshua

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Bryant, were you saying that the triple gear pins were slightly proud of the flange on the back of the flywheel? As to say that the ring (or magnets if installed) would be slightly elevated above the flywheel flange? If so, did you measure the gap? I am just curious because mine did the same thing, ...

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Have you installed new parking/emergency brake shoes? When I restored my car a few years ago the shoes were made extra thick by the cam to make up for a worn brake cam. (I did verify this information with the vendor). I think I ground off nearly 1/16 before the assembly worked properly. Just another...

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Jim, There was an old forum discussion I found a few years ago and Craig Riker in Ohio was mentioned. I don't know if he is still plating, but he did a wonderful job for all of my nickel needs and at a very reasonable price. He knows Model A's and T's well and even can do the Butler nickel finish us...

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While this is a Model T site, I do know that many people also have a Model A hiding in the garage. Does anyone have, or know of a late 1930 model A frame for sale? I'm located in southwest Michigan, and would be willing to travel ~200 or so miles.

Thanks,
Joshua

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Whether a pump does any good probably has to do with the style up pump, engine condition, and drivers perception. It is just the nature of the Model T to not like sitting for long. When I got my car, it ran very hot. The first thing I did was remove the Bergs water pump, and it never steamed again. ...

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The drawing posted says optional. Was this cork band something that was installed at the factory? I removed the tank from a car that I am fairly sure was never dismantled, and saw no signs of this. I imagine that if they had rotted away, then the tank would have been loose in the bands?
-Joshua

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Neal, I attended the Celebration of Brass last summer, and I think the year before? It was very much worth the time to see some amazing automobiles. I have only been to OCF once, but in my opinion I saw more "amazing" brass cars at last years Gilmore event.

-Joshua

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John, I am pretty sure that the shaft is slightly bent, as when it is rotated with the indicator on it, the high spots are 180 degrees from each other from the main shaft tip to the main shaft base. Additionally, when the brake drum is slid on, it binds a little before it seats all the way. This doe...

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Follow up: Following this discussion, I purchased a brass fingered steady rest, and I also looked at the spindle register for my chucks and found the register on them to be 0.030 larger than the register on the spindle. It is to my understanding that the difference should really be about 0.001, and ...

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From the sounds of it, I think I will start with a steady rest and most likely a new chuck too. Scott, the advice I have been receiving is limited to a pre-CNC era machinist, and whatever books and videos I can find on the subject. While I am at it, do you think that it is worth getting a new back p...

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Scott, thank you for your reply. Compared to your experience with this type of machinery, I am just beginning to learn. My chuck has slop in the jaws, but that is removed when they are tightened. Additionally the chuck threads on to the spindle nose. I have cleaned the threads and insured that the c...

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While this question does pertain to model t parts, I am really trying to figure out what I should expect from my lathe. I was going to try and chuck a model t transmission shaft up and true the flange like Mike Bender did in the model t tips video. I figured I would first indicate it in, and if that...

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Harvey, are you referring to these?

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Wayne, Based on his profile he as a 1924 touring, and I have a late 23 touring, model year 1924. My original radiator had little "ears" on the right and left side of the radiator core, and the radiator shell was attached to the vertical sides of the radiator via one screw on each side. The hood welt...

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Harvey, I cannot attest to the overflow tube, mine is still attached after 1,500 miles, but when I got my radiator from them, the ears you refer to came in a small bag, and needed to be pop riveted in place. They said it was because of variations in the radiator shroud, so we can install them where ...

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Steve, it depends which screw it is. The one photo is from the front seat looking back at the wood structure, you can see that there are two square nuts and machine screws close together. These are the backside of the striker plate for a 1293/24 touring. The other photo shows what it looks like from...

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I used a harbor freight 20 ton press without a problem. I did have one particularly stuck gear that required penetrating oil all night before it pressed off. Hope this helps.

-Joshua

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I think Craig Riker, in Ohio will re-silver mirrors. I know he does lots of nickel and brass plating. He does a great job and is very knowledgeable with Model A's and T's. Just search for him in past forum posts.
-Joshua

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In response to your question regarding the brake shoes. When I did my car (1923) I installed new brake cam lobes and the new lined internal brake shoes. I had a similar problem to yours. I called and spoke to Langs about this, and he told me that the new lined brake shoes are cast thicker were the b...

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Looking at the differential, I have the lower plug, (it is just below the bottom of the axle housing), so I should be correct in filling the oil to the hole. To answer John's question, I am running original axles, so the surface is the rough steel, not machined like the new ones. Has anyone had succ...

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Larry, when you say just enough to touch with your little finger. You mean reaching down into the housing? If that is the case, then I over filled. When I originally filled it, I filled it up to the plug opening as I thought that is what Ford recommended. Knowing myself, I may have squeezed the bott...

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Steven, I used the generic permatex that I used on the engine. Perhaps this could be part of the problem. Should I use a sealant for differentials, or do you recommend a specific sealer? John, when I pull the seal out I will look at the fit of the seal to the axle, this may have been a contributing ...

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This past weekend I was thoroughly inspecting my 1923 touring for any loose bolts (in anticipation for summer and touring). When I came to my rear right axle nut, I realized it had somehow loosened up. As I was pulling the cotter pin and applying my torque wrench, I realized there was a good amount ...

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Very nice Jim. Do you happen to have additional information regarding the manufacture of that rim spreader or the factory?

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Somehow this one moved:
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After reading a post here a few years back about a magnet working its way out of the screen, I have used two pieces of safety wire to retain the magnet.

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Not sure if you frequently check your email. Email sent, let me know if I can help.

-Joshua

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Congratulations on your acquisition. Others will have different opinions, but I prefer to tie the car down by the front and rear springs. This prevents the bending of either axles which bend easily, and it prevents the car from bouncing the whole trip.

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Mine was not as bad as yours. If you do try to straighten it, you will need to over shoot, as it always bends back a little. (see the shims in my photo).
-Joshua

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Okay guys, the problem was found. I took a closer look at the timer like Steve suggested, but it grounded and worked as it should. As I had said earlier, I had measured 6 volts off of the bottom coil box terminal (inside the box), but they still did not buzz. I finally caved and pulled the coil box ...

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Great read! Thanks.

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I forgot to mention that I am running an aluminum timing gear. I did check though, and the camshaft still turns.

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Hello all. Last month the family decided to take a fall ride in the 23 touring. We went on our way and there was not the slightest hint of a problem. As I was approaching a stop sign (two miles from home), I slowed and used the low pedal neutral, but then all went silent and we coasted to the roadsi...

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I had nearly the exact same problem a month ago. The brass insert is probably stripped like mine was. Try pulling hard as you try to unthread the sight gauge and I bet it will come out.

Joshua

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Use a broom stick to ram gas soak rags through. When the rags come out white, then you know the housing is clean.

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Did the hub itself crack from all the heat?

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Don, when I was working on my T, the rear slats were screwed in at the top of the tub, and supported the tub's sheet steel via curved spacers as shown in the picture. The bottom looks to have been screwed in as well. I have know idea if this is correct, but I know I was the second person "in there" ...

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This lathe has gotten me through small jobs, axle housings and flywheels.

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Thanks for all the advice. I was able to remove the petcock that had stripped out, but upon closer inspection of the oil pan it appears that a portion of the internal flange is chipped away. About 20-30 percent on the bottom side, but the rest are in good condition. Using thread tape and thread dope...

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Hi guys, I was changing the oil on my 1923 touring and I decided to fix a terrible lower oil petcock leak with a little thread tape. I began to run the petcock back into the oil pan and it began to tighten up just the way it should, but then it turned again. I DID NOT use any tool or pry bar to tigh...

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Mounted the engine, gas tank, had the steering parts nickel plated, and put it on the ground for the first time in two years.

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Both the front and back seat springs hang from fabric straps nailed into the tack rail. I do not have any dimensions, but I know you need to have it just high enough for the seat cushion to seat in properly.

-Joshua

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Scott was the closest. I called Steve at Lang's and he told me the castings were made oversize to take up wear in the brake cams. Because my brake cams were new I ended up grinding 3/64'' of each shoe where the cam rids.
Thanks for the ideas,
Joshua

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I have been working to to adjust the emergency brake on my T, but I cannot get it right. I put the hand brake lever all the way forward and adjusted the front clevises until the brake cams were horizontal and the wheels free, but when I pulled the lever back to the neutral position (vertical), the w...

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Elizabeth with Classtique Upholstery does a fantastic job. She taught me along the way as she did the top and seats.

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On the 23 touring

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Having never attended a swap meet, I am no sure what I'm getting into, but I'm really looking forward to meeting some other members and taking a look around.

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Your are correct.
This is how I did my engine. I believe it has something to do with lubrication. There is also supposed to be a slit in the piston side, but I do not recall which side it should be on.

Joshua

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Robert
you have a beautiful car, and I really enjoy your updates. Looking at your pictures, it looks to me like the piston wrist pins are orientated in the wrong direction. If I'm correct, they should be on the camshaft side. Hopefully somebody else will chime-in with an answer.

Good luck,
Joshua

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Thanks for the offer Jeff, but another member told me about Larry Sidmore's AC brakes. I kind of like the idea of being able to stop while going up an incline and will order a set.

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John, I am rather certain the radiator is original, it has been on there at least 63 years as I am the third owner. Prior to restoration I drove it approximately 500 miles in one summer. It only boiled over once due to a water pump. (Which is now hanging on the wall). Thanks for asking.

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Thanks all.
Jeff I'm in the southwest corner, about 25 minutes north of the Indiana border.

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Hi all, I have been watching this forum for over a year now. I am 18 and new to the Model T; having only had one for nearly three years. It truly is an affliction. I have already rebuilt the front/rear ends, engine and reworked the whole body, all according to the MTFCA manuals and the ford service ...

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Hi all, I'm 18 now and have been watching the forum for over a year now. I am rebuilding a 23 touring and would like to install a set of AC brakes. I was hoping someone might be willing to sell a set.

Thank you,
Joshua

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