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by Drkbp
Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:02 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Has Anyone Tried Laminated Glass for Acetylene Headlight Lenses?
Replies: 18
Views: 479

Re: Has Anyone Tried Laminated Glass for Acetylene Headlight Lenses?

I would get what you had if the glass fit the rim properly and was secure. I have John Brown 16's and a ring holds the flat glass against the rim securely so the lens doesn't fall out while you are lighting up and have the doors open. Heat is not a problem for the front lens. Like you say, I'll ligh...
by Drkbp
Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:54 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Looking for Tut.
Replies: 28
Views: 1207

Re: Looking for Tut.

The second photo has a pair of T touring cars which may
be almost new.
They appear to have Wisconsin 1915 license plates.
by Drkbp
Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:38 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Bing! Bang! Boom!
Replies: 16
Views: 1066

Re: Bing! Bang! Boom!

Sharp eye Wayne,
Appears to be a 1916 Wisconsin plate.
Note the left half of the "W" under the
mounting slot in the plate.
by Drkbp
Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:09 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Looking for information on a 1914 Victor carbide generator
Replies: 2
Views: 232

Re: Looking for information on a 1914 Victor carbide generator

Victor generator with the embossed water tank.
The "hook" water control and side clamp style sets them
apart from the others.
by Drkbp
Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:13 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Hang on buddy!
Replies: 21
Views: 1323

Re: Hang on buddy!

Tim,

I noticed that the lower left two cars appear to have the short slanted front fender "bill".

The "equal size" windshield glass panel types are also obvious on several of the cars.
Shows as more rake in the lower panel, yellow arrows. I believe they are Rands, or Vanguard.
by Drkbp
Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:27 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Hang on buddy!
Replies: 21
Views: 1323

Re: Hang on buddy!

Interesting showroom in last photograph.... J. E. Carson and Son's showroom in Colchester, Illinois, well stocked with new 1913 style Black & Brass cars. However, the first two on the lower right, red arrows (and three across from them) appear to have John Brown 19 and John Brown 100 all brass lamps...
by Drkbp
Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:51 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Factory ID/ patent plates information needed.
Replies: 8
Views: 431

Re: Factory ID/ patent plates information needed.

Mark, Your top photo is a 1914 car and that dash for U.S. cars was drilled both sides for the carburetor mixture control. The dash can be used on either a RHD or LHD car. That patent plate covers the unused "mixture control hole". On my July 1913 Touring, the tag is right above the steering column a...
by Drkbp
Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:38 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1913/14 Corcoran genator
Replies: 3
Views: 387

Re: 1913/14 Corcoran genator

Craig, 1. The Corcoran B&B acetylene generators may be distinguished by the tank vertical seam next to the gas output tube (on the lower tank pictured below and a little hard to see). Also, it has the one-piece basket inside. The instruction sheet was found inside the generator. 2, The one Dan poste...
by Drkbp
Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:37 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Better get that fixed.
Replies: 25
Views: 1726

Re: Better get that fixed.

The 1915/16 Touring does appear to have a New York 1916 plate.
by Drkbp
Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:34 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Better get that fixed.
Replies: 25
Views: 1726

Re: Better get that fixed.

Yes, but by 1915/16 it isn't just after market lamps and "parts"...... It could be a $90 aftermarket touring body on a 1912 -14 chassis, who knows? John C. Nagel, of Detroit, was selling new 1915 and 1916 Ford open bodies even as the cars were coming off the assembly line. The $65 crated 1915 Roadst...
by Drkbp
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:43 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Home on the range
Replies: 23
Views: 1327

Re: Home on the range

Steven, The 1913 in photo #6 with the POL "E" tank appears to have jeweled John Brown-110 side lamps. Those and the tail lamp are kerosene. With the wicks trimmed and set, they also will illuminate for about 24 hours. Ford didn't use acetylene tail lights but I tried a Victor-461 since I use a POL f...
by Drkbp
Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:29 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Home on the range
Replies: 23
Views: 1327

Re: Home on the range

Steven, The valves on the Prestolite tanks are offset near the edge of the tank so they can be laid on the running board and not have the acetone come out with the acetylene gas. The "B" tank on the dock below was for my 1914 Touring and will run the headlamps for about 24 hours. That is a lot of dr...
by Drkbp
Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:39 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: What DAY was your Model T built? Try this...
Replies: 25
Views: 1842

Re: What DAY was your Model T built? Try this...

Andy, The latest dated trans shaft I have a photo of is "12-3-14", so at least through calendar 1914. Yes, #312,XXX is an early 1914 style Beaudette Touring car with the 1913 style center back panel. Ford had trouble with the 1913 style touring bodies and seem to have started using the 1914 style th...
by Drkbp
Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:07 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: What DAY was your Model T built? Try this...
Replies: 25
Views: 1842

Re: What DAY was your Model T built? Try this...

Andy, Bruce's Book seems to be pretty accurate on the engine build dates shown for calendar 1913. He notes on Page 507: "Records show that 300,000 was built on July 16, at 1:25 P.M." I have #312,XXX shown as being assembled Thursday, July 17, 1913, the next day. My Trans Stub Shaft is dated the prev...
by Drkbp
Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:22 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Simpler times.
Replies: 11
Views: 1224

Re: Simpler times.

Leo,

The fourth picture is one of the Ford racers. Gruener is the driver.

Ken
by Drkbp
Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:49 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Innards of JNO.W.Brown Model 16
Replies: 7
Views: 375

Re: Innards of JNO.W.Brown Model 16

Joe, You are looking for two 6-inch diameter Mangin mirror glass reflectors. That is what the Model T headlamps were designed to use. I have attached a photo of some 3/4 burners and a 6" Mangin mirror made by "Lancaster" I have in my '14. In chart, the "MacBeth No. 3209" would be the same dimension ...
by Drkbp
Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:47 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1915 Brass Tail Lamp
Replies: 8
Views: 587

Re: 1915 Brass Tail Lamp

Kevin, Go to: the Encyclopedia, scroll down just a bit and hit the orange button titled "Go to the old version of the Encyclopedia", scroll down left margin to "Lamps" and pick the year. The "blue" tab entries will show the associated lamp for the year and manufacturer. Not all the Brass & Black ver...
by Drkbp
Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:22 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1924 Hundreds of Cars Form a Circle for a Rodeo…
Replies: 4
Views: 374

Re: 1924 Hundreds of Cars Form a Circle for a Rodeo…

Rodeo seems to have been taking place in what is now "Jackson Field".
Ninety-nine years later from East Gallego Avenue....
Sul Ross in the background
by Drkbp
Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:34 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: One of the early Model T's-Old photo
Replies: 27
Views: 1740

Re: One of the early Model T's-Old photo

Darel,

Here is another one with the door handle in that position.
A two-lever E&J lamps but has a top.
That is a Briscoe on that too.
by Drkbp
Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:46 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: One of the early Model T's-Old photo
Replies: 27
Views: 1740

Re: One of the early Model T's-Old photo

Ashley, Indiana is 30 miles north of Fort Wayne, Indiana
and 120 miles southwest of Detroit, Michigan.
Light colored running boards. Linoleum?, hard to tell..
May be one of the very early cars.
by Drkbp
Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:56 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: One of the early Model T's-Old photo
Replies: 27
Views: 1740

Re: One of the early Model T's-Old photo

Thank you John .....
Note on the post card appears to be:

Pa Clute taken
in Ashley, Ind(iana)
Ella & Edgar by
gate - 1908

Probably ... Oscar M. Clute circled in the touring with step daughter
Ella Clute and toddler Edgar Clute (18 months old) circled at the gate.
by Drkbp
Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:44 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ID another set of top Sockets
Replies: 10
Views: 848

Re: ID another set of top Sockets

They resemble those on this T at the New York show in December 1908.
The number one socket (would be your 23") is in place and not visible but
you can see where it goes to drop the top.
by Drkbp
Mon Jun 26, 2023 7:50 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Serial Number Stamping.
Replies: 40
Views: 2288

Re: Serial Number Stamping.

Paul O,

Check the top center of the rear seat kick panel.
My July 1913 Touring (Beaudette) is marked "B" on the rear seat kick panel.
The only actual date stamped on the drive train during assembly is on the transmission stub shaft,
probably in June 1914 with the July 1914 on the body.

Ken
by Drkbp
Sun Jun 25, 2023 12:06 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Serial Number Stamping.
Replies: 40
Views: 2288

Re: Serial Number Stamping.

Paul O,

Your body may be by Herbert.
Both Hayes and Herbert are listed as body makers during the Spring of 1914
on tags attached to new cars. That may be a "H" over an "R" to distinguish
it from Hayes.
Is there any stamp on the heel kick panels? Maybe Hap has a sample for Herbert.

Ken
by Drkbp
Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:57 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Old photo- looks like a torpedo or anopen runabout
Replies: 10
Views: 1237

Re: Old photo- looks like a torpedo or anopen runabout

Wayne,
I have a little better copy of the car in your last post, second picture.
It appears to have Ford's 1914 Michigan Manufacturers Plate on it, 5005M.
Ken
by Drkbp
Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation
Replies: 12
Views: 1373

Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

It probably does and would likely be the bottom dimensional arrow.
That's all I have ever seen posted of that drawing.
by Drkbp
Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:12 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Modern tank for acetylene lights
Replies: 22
Views: 2097

Re: Modern tank for acetylene lights

Thank you Keith T for the draw-down cautions and experience with the MC tank. Also, DO NOT enclose these fuel tanks in tool boxes, non-working carbide generators, under touring car seats, or any other enclosed or poorly ventilated areas! Keith T's last post at 10:00 a.m. is spot on. I went by Airgas...
by Drkbp
Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:25 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Modern tank for acetylene lights
Replies: 22
Views: 2097

Re: Modern tank for acetylene lights

Jerry, I use a small Uniweld Regulator on a Prest-O-Lite "B" tank. I'm sure the welding supply can set it up on a Motor Cycle tank. I set it to about 4 to 5-psi. Then the small Radnor acetylene valve (located between the radiator side panel and each headlamp) allows you to set the flame right where ...
by Drkbp
Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:07 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Modern tank for acetylene lights
Replies: 22
Views: 2097

Re: Modern tank for acetylene lights

Bryan, You can still find Prest-O-Lite "B" tanks with the off-set valve. These you may lay on their side as Wayne says with the valve "up" on the running board. They do not have the "pressure valve gauge" in the bottom which precludes them from being filled today. There is a plug where the old "Pres...
by Drkbp
Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:49 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation
Replies: 12
Views: 1373

Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Fred, You need to fabricate the crossover pipe. It solders to the fins of the radiator. The "tee" and two small 2-inch pieces of tubing are shown below. The single long piece not shown in the cropped photo of tubing is about 14-1/2-inches on my Brass Works radiator. It lays against the fins, "tee" o...
by Drkbp
Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation
Replies: 12
Views: 1373

Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Fred,
So, you do have the 1/2"-inch holes for the acetylene hose in the radiator
side panels?
Do you have the 1/2"-inch acetylene gas hole in the driver side
splash shield?
Ken
by Drkbp
Mon Dec 26, 2022 11:51 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation
Replies: 12
Views: 1373

Re: Gas Lamp Hook Up Kit Installation

Fred,
Does your radiator have the acetylene "crossover tube" soldered to the engine side?
Ken
by Drkbp
Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:51 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Wick Size and Type
Replies: 8
Views: 1113

Re: Wick Size and Type

I have the square John Browns and they use the same.
Pack of 5 wicks says "1/2-inch" but they are a little under.
Easy to keep trimmed and set correctly. I use K1.
The round lamps use smaller wicks.
by Drkbp
Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:43 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Last ride . . .
Replies: 16
Views: 1770

Re: Last ride . . .

It looks like he had that car set up to drive at night; maybe rural Kansas - who knows... The headlamps appear to be larger and set higher than stock Ford gas lamps. Probably 7-inch mirrors which would use a 1-cubic foot burner. I believe I see a Prest-O-Lite tank on the running board??? Compared to...
by Drkbp
Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:19 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Wick Size and Type
Replies: 8
Views: 1113

Re: Wick Size and Type

Michael,

Do you have the square lamps, '09 to '14, or round '15 up?

Ken
by Drkbp
Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:06 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1912, '13, '14 body changes
Replies: 15
Views: 1700

Re: 1912, '13, '14 body changes

Steve,
Who made the body?
by Drkbp
Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:17 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: One for Keith Townsend
Replies: 11
Views: 1728

Re: One for Keith Townsend

Appears to have 1912 Illinois plates.
by Drkbp
Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:28 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Opening of the Geelong Gallery - 1915
Replies: 3
Views: 714

Re: Opening of the Geelong Gallery - 1915

Appears to have John Brown 16 headlights and 110 side lights, not Clasco.
Can't tell what the generator is.
by Drkbp
Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:23 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Stewart 102 Speedometer bouncing
Replies: 23
Views: 1778

Re: Stewart 102 Speedometer bouncing

Bruce,

Did you "lay" the links in the cable before you attached the cable to the speedometer head?

Ken
by Drkbp
Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:39 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Heading to the World Series
Replies: 3
Views: 756

Re: Heading to the World Series

John Brown 19's, maybe a 1912 Torpedo.
Looks like 1917 Alberta plates.
What a load!
by Drkbp
Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:09 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Touring cars
Replies: 24
Views: 2189

Re: Touring cars

Tim, Number 16, the RHD Touring and driver has a Fez. Appears to be a Rands windscreen flipped over the wrong way on a 1914 style touring. However, the way he has it the drip edge on the top panel won't let him rotate it past the stanchions inside. Probably didn't rain much where he was. Didn't foll...
by Drkbp
Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:32 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Very Late '13 Body
Replies: 14
Views: 1778

Re: Very Late '13 Body

I have #312XXX which indicates a July 17 assembly of the engine. It is the small door "1914 style" touring body built by Beaudette. The center section of the rear tub also has a bead along the bottom edge like the '13's. June 19th block casting and the original transmission which was built on July 1...
by Drkbp
Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:01 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: T’s everywhere
Replies: 17
Views: 1809

Re: T’s everywhere

I believe you guys have unstuck the 1913 in the mud...... RHD with a pup in the back!
The acetylene headlights appear to be CLASCo. with the large round side vents in the bonnets.
Also, do we see the choke-loop on the near side of the radiator, or is it more of my imagination?
by Drkbp
Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:35 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1913-14 Ford Cowl Lamp Manufacturers Percentage Installed
Replies: 7
Views: 1261

Re: 1913-14 Ford Cowl Lamp Manufacturers Percentage Installed

I am also primarily interested in the Ford Black & Brass 1913/14 lamps and their variations. Would be neat to know what each manufacturer supplied. Victor and Corcoran merged in 1916 to form Corcoran. Corcoran, John Brown and Indiana Lamp Company merged in 1930 and were bought by Electric-Auto-Lite ...
by Drkbp
Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1913-14 Ford Cowl Lamp Manufacturers Percentage Installed
Replies: 7
Views: 1261

Re: 1913-14 Ford Cowl Lamp Manufacturers Percentage Installed

The only lamp production figure I have run into was in an article in the May 21, 1914, issue of The Automobile. In that article, the E&J company indicated that they "practically" produce 3,500 lamps per day at their Detroit plant for Ford, enough for 700 cars. E&J seems to have had the largest share...
by Drkbp
Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:11 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Steel Side Light Question
Replies: 7
Views: 1394

Re: Steel Side Light Question

Mark, Your John Brown 110's have the red jewels on the back panel of the lamp. Those style lamps seem to have been used on the 1913 Models and earlier 1914 style cars. The old photos indicate that is what happened and I have a set on my car. The progression appears to have been: 1) jeweled, 2) plain...
by Drkbp
Sun Jul 10, 2022 12:20 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1913 Runabout with side curtains
Replies: 17
Views: 2672

Re: 1913 Runabout with side curtains

Nice photo ...I believe it's reversed.
(Buttons on the guys vests)
Prest-O-Lite seems to have a regulator on it maybe.
by Drkbp
Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:53 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1913 Runabout with side curtains
Replies: 17
Views: 2672

Re: 1913 Runabout with side curtains

Here is a 1914 with rear side section.
I believe Tom posted this one.
by Drkbp
Sun May 22, 2022 2:46 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Sunday scenes
Replies: 4
Views: 1109

Re: Sunday scenes

Did he take the Presto-O-Lite off the buggy? In the second photo of the 1914 Touring, driver has a shorter Prest-O-Lite "E" tank on the running board. The "E" tanks were 30 cubic feet of acetylene vs. the 40 cubic foot "B" tanks Ford would supply. About 3 inches shorter but the same 6" diameter and ...
by Drkbp
Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:36 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Position of gas generator
Replies: 18
Views: 2438

Re: Position of gas generator

Michael,

Very nice Victor style generator and looks great!
Do you know if it is functional?

Ken
by Drkbp
Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:39 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Position of gas generator
Replies: 18
Views: 2438

Re: Position of gas generator

Michael D, In Mike Walkers photo of factory punched running boards noted above, I have put a red dot on the splash shield where the 1/2" gas hose hole was punched beginning about June of 1912 and probably to the end of factory acetylene gas headlamp use. It is in the center of the "flat space" adjac...
by Drkbp
Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:43 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: New mirrors for acetylene lamps
Replies: 32
Views: 3012

Re: New mirrors for acetylene lamps

Herb, I believe the pads were asbestos but I don't know for sure. The lamps don't get near hot enough to require it. I have one "pad" that came off an old lamp that looks like a donut, a bold "O" and it may be asbestos. I use 2" exhaust wrap in three strips trimmed so you don't see it behind the mir...
by Drkbp
Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:37 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: New mirrors for acetylene lamps
Replies: 32
Views: 3012

Re: New mirrors for acetylene lamps

Mark, Not to change the OP question but you asked about headlamp size.... Ford used 6" Mangin mirrors in the supplied headlamps, John Brown, E&J and Victor. I have John Brown 16's and they will not take a larger diameter. They are measured across the maximum diameter as shown in the MacBeth chart be...
by Drkbp
Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:46 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Position of gas generator
Replies: 18
Views: 2438

Re: Position of gas generator

I will assume you have a generator with a "four hole" base plate (see below), if you do: Beginning about June 1912, Ford began using the two front running board support holes for the front two bolts on the acetylene generator. They are spaced 5" apart and match the two holes on the four hole generat...
by Drkbp
Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:51 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 100 yrs ago-give or take.
Replies: 26
Views: 2371

Re: 100 yrs ago-give or take.

Third from bottom,
nice pin stripe on early 1913 Touring with bill style front fenders.

Thank you for the great photos!
by Drkbp
Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:00 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Matching dates common?
Replies: 20
Views: 2574

Re: Matching dates common?

Jeff,

Interesting, engine assembly that week was right on top
of the transmission assembly department. My block casting
was also about three weeks ahead of engine assembly in July.
Would seem to indicate "engine assembly" dates in the book
are accurate for the time period.
by Drkbp
Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:01 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Matching dates common?
Replies: 20
Views: 2574

Re: Matching dates common?

Not matching of course but, another date on a completed "new engine assembly" for reference if you have the engine apart. The transmission stub shaft was dated when the transmissions were assembled. The transmissions seem to be assembled about a week or two prior to engine assembly and numbering. My...
by Drkbp
Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:58 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Who wants to give it a go?
Replies: 13
Views: 2258

Re: Who wants to give it a go?

I believe you are correct Tom. Wintertime conversion.
The Prest-O-Lite "MC" tank and headlight
were left on the motorcycle forks.
Anyone recognize the brand of the motorcycle?
by Drkbp
Sat Jan 01, 2022 9:54 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Important news from the Washington Post
Replies: 25
Views: 2656

Re: Important news from the Washington Post

One of my neighbors has a TesXX. Told him I was all in on saving the planet with my Model T's which I consider hybrids because I run them on Magneto. I have heard those things can get a "lithium free start" every once in a while that is the very dickens for the Fire Dept, so I try not to park near o...
by Drkbp
Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:17 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Blackburn Autolock
Replies: 2
Views: 938

Re: Blackburn Autolock

K-W offered the "Master Vibrator" with the Yale locking switch. These were more useful before the new Ford coil which began in early 1913. This one is serial number "F103175". K-W also offered the "Autolock" switch that fit the Ford new metal coil box for 1913, second photo. The patent date is the s...
by Drkbp
Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:36 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Headlight plumbing
Replies: 8
Views: 1661

Re: Headlight plumbing

Keith, Thanks for posting the above detail. Just noticed the drawing had a note added (in the lower left corner) when the crossover pipe was used in production: "1912 > after 75,000 cars - 1913 - 1914" Suggests the radiator side plates punched for gas hoses and above crossover soldered in place, the...
by Drkbp
Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:28 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: OLD PHOTO - Brass Era, Cranking Ol' Lizzy
Replies: 9
Views: 2381

Re: OLD PHOTO - Brass Era, Cranking Ol' Lizzy

Great photo!
Reminds me of another one that may be a little earlier 1911.
Similar angle with E&J lamps.
This one needs some air but doesn't need a tire boot yet....
Thank you Jay!
by Drkbp
Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:08 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Toeboard Modifications?
Replies: 16
Views: 2858

Re: Toeboard Modifications?

Paul, I wipe the road gear and fiber gear off with an old rag and grease them very lightly with just a little touch out of the swivel grease cap. Like you say, they pick up road dust and no use to sling grease on wheel/spokes. I like to set the fiber gear teeth "up" just a little so it doesn't run t...
by Drkbp
Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:36 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Toeboard Modifications?
Replies: 16
Views: 2858

Re: Toeboard Modifications?

Paul, If you choose to go with the slot as discussed, the speedometer cable slot in my original July 1913 top floor board is 3" x 3/4" centered 4" from the right end of the board. This is directly above the factory hole provided in the splash shield where a grommet protects the speedometer cable and...
by Drkbp
Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:46 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Speedometer gear install
Replies: 13
Views: 2422

Re: Speedometer gear install

Art, I believe you are correct. Be nice if someone would chime in. I've mounted the road gears but didn't have the tool, however.... see if this approach aligns the road gear. Lay the wheel horizontal with the hub cap side down and supported so it doesn't wobble. With the inner bearing in the hub, s...
by Drkbp
Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:50 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Speedometer gear install
Replies: 13
Views: 2422

Re: Speedometer gear install

Try the tool in the three holes in your road gear I marked below. Be sure the three slight "marks" you make on the spokes with the tool are just outside the wheel hub so the spacers sit vertical to the spoke right next to the hub. I used the four hole in the 1322 gear on my car. With the spacers, th...
by Drkbp
Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:48 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1914 Touring Body Manufacturer?
Replies: 5
Views: 1678

Re: 1914 Touring Body Manufacturer?

Look at the top center of the "heel kick panel" metal stamping, front and rear.
Sort of tucked up under the overhang of the seat frame.
The letters are often stamped in the metal, "B" for Beaudette etc.
Herbert, Hayes, Fisher, Monroe, Ford, Pontiac (Beaudette), Wilson....
Maybe HR for Herbert ?
by Drkbp
Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:52 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: replacement block
Replies: 11
Views: 1854

Re: replacement block

If the block is with the transmission etc., another confirmation of the above discussion would be the date stamped on the transmission stub shaft. You may have the original transmission. The latest example I have is December 1914 so I don't know how long this continued since it began in 1908. If you...
by Drkbp
Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:49 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Kw ignition
Replies: 3
Views: 911

Re: Kw ignition

Put the key in the lock and turn to "Mag". The lock lines up with slots (in center) and lock/face plate will come out. Nice accessory for a '13-'14, by KW Pat 1912. The switch base isn't the same as the regular switch. Here is what switch and the base looks like inside. The switch base is the same a...
by Drkbp
Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:25 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Early Brass Headlights, how do you remove the reflector
Replies: 2
Views: 1158

Re: Early Brass Headlights, how do you remove the reflector

It sounds like you have a mirror mounted in a steel ring like some Victor acetylene lamps. They may have been soldered in. I do have some of those reflectors but they are made to be held by small screws and nuts. Could you take a picture and I may be able to see if they are the same. If so, I have p...
by Drkbp
Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:58 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Info on lamp company
Replies: 6
Views: 1910

Re: Info on lamp company

In 1909, Victor Lamp Company was located at 1249 Plum, Cincinnati, Ohio.
That is 1249 West Central Parkway today and the building is gone.
Add from 1910....
by Drkbp
Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:15 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Info on lamp company
Replies: 6
Views: 1910

Re: Info on lamp company

The Corcoran family of Cincinnati, Ohio, were major suppliers to the automobile trade. Thomas Corcoran and his four brothers owned the Victor Lamp Company, Corcoran Lamp Company and the Victor Auto Parts. Peerless was another of their companies. Victor Lamp and Corcoran Lamp supplied Black & Brass l...
by Drkbp
Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:12 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Kerosene lamp questions
Replies: 13
Views: 2613

Re: Kerosene lamp questions

Thank you Colin. I wondered when I posted because I believe there was a name change, correct?
Or am I still a confused Texan :shock:
by Drkbp
Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:54 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Kerosene lamp questions
Replies: 13
Views: 2613

Re: Kerosene lamp questions

Edmund & Jones, of Detroit, set up C.L.A.S.Co. to manufacture lamps for the Ford Motor Company of Canada. The two companies shared some directors and was located at 2744 Edna in Windsor, Ontario, not far from the Ford plant. The building nearing completion in the photo below, is still there. They be...
by Drkbp
Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Question about carbide/acetylene hose clamps
Replies: 15
Views: 2584

Re: Question about carbide/acetylene hose clamps

Assembly line photograph shows acetylene gas hose clamps in place on radiator when they come down to drop on chassis.
Lower left corner of photo shows gas line, and clamp, to left front headlight (radiator just mounted out of view left).
Yellow dots near clamps most visible.
by Drkbp
Mon Feb 01, 2021 4:44 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Question about carbide generators
Replies: 8
Views: 1934

Re: Question about carbide generators

Since I was under there, I measured the speedometer hole punched in the right splash shield but couldn't get it to load just previous for some reason. It is 1-1/4" in diameter, smooth and flush with the shield. I moved the grommet and Stewart cable out of the way to measure. Frame of car is just to ...
by Drkbp
Mon Feb 01, 2021 4:19 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Question about carbide generators
Replies: 8
Views: 1934

Re: Question about carbide generators

We talk about these every so often so I measured and took a picture of mine in the shop today.The running boards and splash shields are original 1913. The carbide generator holes have the diamond pattern "shortened" in front of them so the punch hits a flat spot. Slight indentation on the top and a ...
by Drkbp
Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:02 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Question about carbide generators
Replies: 8
Views: 1934

Re: Question about carbide generators

Yes, a Victor generator may have been placed on a car with E&J lamps. The 4-hole (bottom tank) spacing is 5" c-c side to side (like the T running board) and 5-1/4" c-c in the other direction along the running board. They are the same and whatever was on the line was used. This orients the bottom tan...
by Drkbp
Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:08 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Gaslight Drive Last Night
Replies: 8
Views: 1995

Re: Gaslight Drive Last Night

I'm using a POL tank. Too convenient. It's the 40 cubic foot tank and lasts 26 hours on our T lamps. Ford shipped Model T No. 1 with a Prest-O-Lite tank Oct. 1908, OEM. The POL was an upgrade but I have no idea if there was a charge, or maybe POL furnished Ford an empty tank to exchange for a filled...
by Drkbp
Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:11 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Gaslight Drive Last Night
Replies: 8
Views: 1995

Re: Gaslight Drive Last Night

Here is a couple more at the shop.

I guess the jewels on the side lights are supposed to tell you they are lit.
The 115's have the blue side light which does add to the driver side visibility.
by Drkbp
Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:55 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Gaslight Drive Last Night
Replies: 8
Views: 1995

Gaslight Drive Last Night

Weather has been beautiful here so I took the '14 out late yesterday afternoon. Had to go to Walgreens, HEB and to pick up some health food at the pizza place. After the first stop, cars were lighting up so I stopped in a turn lane and lit the lamps. Did HEB and decided to drive around west Houston ...
by Drkbp
Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:01 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Where did Dodge brothers make parts for the Model T
Replies: 13
Views: 2711

Re: Where did Dodge brothers make parts for the Model T

Here is an interior of the Dodge shop 1903,
a correction to the article
and the other building photo you may be thinking about.
by Drkbp
Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:00 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Where did Dodge brothers make parts for the Model T
Replies: 13
Views: 2711

Re: Where did Dodge brothers make parts for the Model T

Here is an April 1903 location.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id= ... up&seq=364

They were a very successful operation at the time.
by Drkbp
Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:50 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Converting gas headlights from electric back to gas
Replies: 15
Views: 2372

Re: Converting gas headlights from electric back to gas

Hudson, The local welding supply houses have them, Praxair & Airgas. I find the Prest-O-Lite tanks with the off-center valve are mixed in with the other "B" tanks. You have to look carefully to spot them. This rack had two and I took the one in the back corner. The POL center right has the fine valv...
by Drkbp
Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:22 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Converting gas headlights from electric back to gas
Replies: 15
Views: 2372

Re: Converting gas headlights from electric back to gas

Bud is correct! If you wish to use the generator, follow the "Useful Hints." in the instructions above. I've read the moisture carries lime and can plug the gas burner jets. They are tiny!! If you plug the back jet, I would imagine your Mangin will be cracked in just a few minutes. I have burned the...
by Drkbp
Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:54 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Converting gas headlights from electric back to gas
Replies: 15
Views: 2372

Re: Converting gas headlights from electric back to gas

Dan, My Victor is NOS and the picture of the instruction sheet wasn't clear so I typed it where it could be read (below). This doesn't look seem too clear either when posted. :? It refers to the "hook" valve which is the style Victor used. The one you posted is Corcoran. Thomas Corcoran owned both V...
by Drkbp
Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:47 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Converting gas headlights from electric back to gas
Replies: 15
Views: 2372

Re: Converting gas headlights from electric back to gas

Dan, Looking great! Carbide produces about 4 cubic feet of acetylene gas per pound. If you are using 3/4 burners (standard for our T lamps) you should get about 2-1/2 hours out of a pound. The clip below is out of the 1904 "Acetylene Journal". Carbide does go in the basket like you have it. I have a...
by Drkbp
Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:54 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Mounting a KW Master Vibrator on a 1914
Replies: 10
Views: 1954

Re: Mounting a KW Master Vibrator on a 1914

George, KW also made the "AUTO LOCK" switch for the 1913/1914 coil box. The only difference is "AUTO LOCK" stamped just above the lower mounting screw. I have both and the internals are the same. Also, the locking KW switches don't have the same internals as a regular Ford metal coil box switch but ...
by Drkbp
Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:32 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: This and that, not all ford, but you’ll relate.
Replies: 12
Views: 2169

Re: This and that, not all ford, but you’ll relate.

Photo #16 - "This car donated by Raymond Pearson..."
Houston automobile dealer that started with Ford in 1922.
Photograph taken on Main Street and Texas Avenue with
the Rice Hotel in the background.
by Drkbp
Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:16 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: This and that, not all ford, but you’ll relate.
Replies: 12
Views: 2169

Re: This and that, not all ford, but you’ll relate.

Great photographs! Last photo is a Ford Motor Company sponsored "Stock Chassis Racer", 38 car that was entered in the Elgin Nationals, Fox River Trophy, August 26, 1910. The driver is James Hatch and his Mechanician William Gruener, Ford employees, and was taken during a practice run before the race...
by Drkbp
Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:08 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Any info on the very first Model T?
Replies: 13
Views: 2963

Re: Any info on the very first Model T?

I believe this is from #1 and seems to say that
the motor was changed as discussed above.
Maybe someone has a better copy.
E&J lamps and a Prest-O-Lite tank.
by Drkbp
Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:44 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 13T - Gas Lamps Coming Back to Life
Replies: 3
Views: 1179

Re: 13T - Gas Lamps Coming Back to Life

Looking good! I did the same and got my kerosene lamps working first on my '14. The three "square" lamps really aid in making you more visible from the side and back during the low-light times, early and late in the day. Easily adds an hour of driving time to either end of the day! Only takes a minu...
by Drkbp
Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:41 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 13T - Carbide Generator Make
Replies: 8
Views: 1882

Re: 13T - Carbide Generator Make

There seem to be two variations of Victor Black & Brass generators. A smooth top water tank (early) and an embossed (late) with the identification. It seems the late Victor is the only Black & Brass generator used on Fords to carry identification. Some "early" Victor's may have brass clamps but I ha...
by Drkbp
Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Position of burner
Replies: 6
Views: 1669

Re: Position of burner

To help line up the burner, I use a dab of pipe dope on the threads of the burner base to keep the acetylene from leaking around base of the burner. I like my burners "snug" on the base but not so tight I can't reach in there with my fingers and line up the flame when lit. I have a burner that makes...
by Drkbp
Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:00 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 13T - Carbide Generator Make
Replies: 8
Views: 1882

Re: 13T - Carbide Generator Make

John Brown.

Does it have the insides?

Looks like a nice one.

Ken
by Drkbp
Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:25 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: 1913-14 Running Board _FS
Replies: 6
Views: 1742

Re: 1913-25 Running Board _FS

You are correct: The two holes are 11/32" in diameter and spaced 5"c-c. All 1913 and 1914's. They are "punched" down and leave a slight ridge around the edge under the running board. All boards were punched, so the holes are found both sides. Late 1912's should be punched also but the logo runs the ...
by Drkbp
Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod
Replies: 13
Views: 2787

Re: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Mine is 18-23/32" - I don't seem to see the number but it could be there. Where is it located? It is the adjusting rod that was in the touring when I got it so I don't know if it is the correct one. I have a Kingston 4-ball and the tines drop well into the round brass adjustment connector. The carbu...
by Drkbp
Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:16 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 13T - Coolant Temp and Initial Driving Experience
Replies: 8
Views: 2051

Re: 13T - Coolant Temp and Initial Driving Experience

Darin, Sounds like you are fine. If you are still curious though, be sure the kitchen thermometer is accurate. I have a 1935 Ford V8 that uses thermostats so I've been checking them before installing for years. Here is how I check my thermometer: I used two NOS thermostats that are for my '35 Cabrio...
by Drkbp
Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:44 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Old Photo- New 1914 Fords
Replies: 3
Views: 1362

Re: Old Photo- New 1914 Fords

Neat photo, May 5, 1914.
The first two were shipped with a Prest-O-Lite tank.
by Drkbp
Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: prestolite gas
Replies: 6
Views: 2059

Re: prestolite gas

The tank you're looking for is a 40-cubic foot acetylene "B" tank with the valve offset of center. I find them mixed in with regular acetylene "B" tanks at the local welding supply houses, Airgas and Praxair. You can lay these tanks horizontal on your running board with the valve at "12 o'clock". Th...