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by Ron Patterson
Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:49 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Some old Fords
Replies: 15
Views: 803

Re: Some old Fords

Tom
The first photo is particularly interesting.
John Regan taught me to recognize the Ford Delivery cars. And if I am not mistaken these are two Ford made delivery cars. Notice the single seat and decal on the side of the body.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:36 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Generator trouble shooting. Suggestions?
Replies: 3
Views: 239

Re: Generator trouble shooting. Suggestions?

Dennis
Give me a call and I will try to help.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:39 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: HCCT Trouble shooting
Replies: 10
Views: 571

Re: HCCT Trouble shooting

Andy
Give me a call.
Your problem is common to this particular type HCCT.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:33 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: For Sale-Nine new Champion X Spark Plugs and Three NOS Crystal Timers
Replies: 3
Views: 424

For Sale-Nine new Champion X Spark Plugs and Three NOS Crystal Timers

Nine “new in box” Champion X spark plugs and three “NOS in box” Crystal glass timers with new aluminum centering rings cast by Bob Scherzer (to replace original pot metal part). You can have it all for $375 and I will pay Priority Mail shipping to any USA address. Ron Patterson email: modeltcoils(at...
by Ron Patterson
Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Mag Voltage vs RPM - 1911 t
Replies: 36
Views: 1582

Re: Mag Voltage vs RPM - 1911 t

I have directly offered my assistance to Phil Berg. He hasn't call me yet as I asked. The first thing I will do is have him measure the output of his magneto to get a baseline for future investigation. I am highly skeptical of Phil's initial readings and want to use the gold standard St Louis magnet...
by Ron Patterson
Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:39 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Mag Voltage vs RPM - 1911 t
Replies: 36
Views: 1582

Re: Mag Voltage vs RPM - 1911 t

Phillip Berg and others Please ignore the Model T Ford magneto ignition system explanation provided by Mike Kossar in this thread. Either Mike simply doesn't fully understand how the Model T ignition system works or he is not incapable of writing a technically correct description of how it does work...
by Ron Patterson
Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:24 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: An observation on aftermarket coils
Replies: 5
Views: 656

Re: An observation on aftermarket coils

Erik This subject has been discussed many times on this Forum over the last 25 years. These coils are made by a company in Oregon and have went through many iterations (of corrections) over the years. Hence the variations you are seeing. The first problem was the size of the boxes were not like orig...
by Ron Patterson
Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:43 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Model T Ignition Coil Rebuilders Take a L@@k
Replies: 3
Views: 620

Re: Model T Ignition Coil Rebuilders Take a L@@k

It took 9 minutes and the hot plates have been sold.
Thanks MTFCA Classifieds
by Ron Patterson
Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:21 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Model T Ignition Coil Rebuilders Take a L@@k
Replies: 3
Views: 620

Model T Ignition Coil Rebuilders Take a L@@k

Three brand-new never used Hamilton Beach 750-Watt Fifth Burner hot plates. Just right for heating Type III Steep tar to re-pot rebuilt Model T ignition coils. Price is $15 each and we share the actual cost of Priority Mail shipping to USA addresses. Please telephone Ron Patterson at number Eight-5-...
by Ron Patterson
Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:06 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: FS Four-Lightly Used FunProjects Made Model T Ford Ignition Coils
Replies: 1
Views: 652

Re: FS Four-Lightly Used FunProjects Made Model T Ford Ignition Coils

The FunProjects coils have been sold.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:33 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: FS Four-Lightly Used FunProjects Made Model T Ford Ignition Coils
Replies: 1
Views: 652

FS Four-Lightly Used FunProjects Made Model T Ford Ignition Coils

These are currently not available from Model T parts supplies. These normally retail for $85.00 each. Made with new wood boxes with internals windings recovered from original Ford coils. I have installed new points and tested/adjusted for proper operation. Price is $285 and I will pay UPSP Priority ...
by Ron Patterson
Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:20 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Looking for info on points
Replies: 17
Views: 1372

Re: Looking for info on points

Dan
Send an email to Daniel Bollo who lives in Cordoba Argentina and ask him this question. If anyone will know it will be him.
His email address is dbollo(at)gmail(dot)com.
Tell him Ron Patterson directed you to him.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:40 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: For Sale: NOS Model T Generator Third Brush Holders made by Stewart
Replies: 1
Views: 460

Re: For Sale: NOS Model T Generator Third Brush Holders made by Stewart

The generator third brush holder have been sold.
Thanks MTFCA Classifieds.
by Ron Patterson
Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:01 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: For Sale: NOS Model T Generator Third Brush Holders made by Stewart
Replies: 1
Views: 460

For Sale: NOS Model T Generator Third Brush Holders made by Stewart

Quantity thirty NOS generator third (movable) brush holders. Many suppliers made these for Ford, but the Stewarts units were the best of them all. Die cast aluminum (not pot metal). Still have the original copper flash coating. Complete with NOS brush springs and correct clamp bolts and nuts. These ...
by Ron Patterson
Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:35 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Urgently Wanted to Buy Model T Ford Ignition Coils
Replies: 11
Views: 1529

Re: Urgently Wanted to Buy Model T Ford Ignition Coils

Charles
Give a look and give me a call.
Ron Patterson
859-881-1677
by Ron Patterson
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:18 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Urgently Wanted to Buy Model T Ford Ignition Coils
Replies: 11
Views: 1529

Re: Urgently Wanted to Buy Model T Ford Ignition Coils

Joe Bell
Thank you for the help, twice now.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:47 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Found this NOS part?
Replies: 11
Views: 1440

Re: Found this NOS part?

That Babbitt bushing is factory number T-1759 and was used in the Model T starter brush cap. It was a common starter problem for several reasons. After factory installation where something very similar to Lubriplate was added there is no provision for further periodic lubrication. You commonly see s...
by Ron Patterson
Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:52 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Urgently "Wanted to Buy" Model T Ford Ignition Coils
Replies: 12
Views: 1461

Urgently "Wanted to Buy" Model T Ford Ignition Coils

I realize this ad belongs in the classifieds section, but I am reaching out here in hopes some of you have not seen this ad and have what I need? I am in urgent need of good used rebuildable coil cores. I have customers who want rebuilt coils for their Model T's, but have no cores to send me. Lookin...
by Ron Patterson
Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:43 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Urgently Wanted to Buy Model T Ford Ignition Coils
Replies: 11
Views: 1529

Urgently Wanted to Buy Model T Ford Ignition Coils

Looking to buy large stashes of used rebuildable Model T Ford ignition coils. I have customers who want rebuilt coils, but have no cores. I will buy your used coils outright for cash, trade for rebuilt coils or take your extras as full or partial payment. The more coils you have the better this work...
by Ron Patterson
Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:31 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: True Fire Ignition
Replies: 13
Views: 1355

Re: True Fire Ignition

Contact Jim Golden, he has had significant experience repairing True Fire ignition systems.
j1mgolden(at)comcast(dot)net.
by Ron Patterson
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:56 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: For Sale Model T Ford Generator Tester Drive Gear Adapter
Replies: 2
Views: 458

Re: For Sale Model T Ford Generator Tester Drive Gear Adapter

The drive gear adapter has been sold.
Thanks
MTFCA
by Ron Patterson
Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:15 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: For Sale Model T Ford Generator Tester Drive Gear Adapter
Replies: 2
Views: 458

For Sale Model T Ford Generator Tester Drive Gear Adapter

Building a Model T Ford generator tester? Using this device, you can directly spin your generator under test using the Ford generator drive gear. The shaft size is 5/8 inch with a hex head Allen screw to hold it to the motor shaft. You can directly spin the generator from the Model T generator drive...
by Ron Patterson
Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:12 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Vehicles
Topic: F,S. 1926 Model T Ford Touring car National winner on t bay Sold
Replies: 14
Views: 3606

Re: F,S. 1926 Model T Ford Touring car National winner on t bay Sold

Don is a local friend here In Nicholasville, KY who is a Model T neophyte, but very enthusiastic.
I highly recommended this well pedigreed and very reasonably priced car to him knowing he would not be stuck with a dud.
Now I guess I will have to teach him how to drive it? :)
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Magneto problem
Replies: 22
Views: 1695

Re: Magneto problem

I don't know the exact metallurgical make up of a Model T forged steel magnets, but the generally quoted Curie temperature for forged steel is 770 Celsius.
by Ron Patterson
Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:40 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Another mag problem
Replies: 22
Views: 1499

Re: Another mag problem

If you measure the output of your magneto with a Fun Projects St. Louis Magneto Tester and post the results it would go a long way toward diagnosing your problem.
by Ron Patterson
Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:22 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Magneto problem
Replies: 22
Views: 1695

Re: Magneto problem

I may be wildly wrong, but I cannot believe the Curie temperature of a Model T magneto magnet is anywhere near 176 F.
It has to be much higher than that.
Ron
by Ron Patterson
Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:16 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 8 volt Batteries
Replies: 9
Views: 820

Re: 8 volt Batteries

The generator voltage will only go to the higher rates I mentioned above when the battery is disconnected and the generators goes into its "runaway" unregulated mode. A loose charging circuit wire on the switch or ammeter would case this.
by Ron Patterson
Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:48 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 8 volt Batteries
Replies: 9
Views: 820

Re: 8 volt Batteries

Adam D. is correct in both instances; the unregulated output of the generator can go as high as 10-12 volts and a "properly rebuilt" Model T starter will have no trouble turning over a Rajo equipped engine. The problem with Voltage is people who do not understand electricity thinks more voltage is b...
by Ron Patterson
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:02 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: McLarn Wire Wheel Tire Slippage - In Detail
Replies: 16
Views: 1467

Re: McLarn Wire Wheel Tire Slippage - In Detail

Bob
Very well done. Your logic and analysis is perfect.
This problem has been around for many years it is good to have someone finally determine the exact cause of the problem and come up with a solution.
Congratulations.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:44 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: For Sale: Two Ford 18-Z-245 Hand Cranked Coil Tester Spark Rings
Replies: 1
Views: 440

Re: For Sale: Two Ford 18-Z-245 Hand Cranked Coil Tester Spark Rings

The HCCT Spark Rings have been sold.
Thanks MTFCA Classifieds.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:21 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: For Sale: Two Ford 18-Z-245 Hand Cranked Coil Tester Spark Rings
Replies: 1
Views: 440

For Sale: Two Ford 18-Z-245 Hand Cranked Coil Tester Spark Rings

One is a Bob Scherzer reproduction, cast in bronze and polished $85.00. The other is an original Ford part which has been Nickle plated $125.00 Plus $18.00 Priority Mail shipping each. Contact Ron Patterson telephone 8Five9-8Eight1-1Six7Seven or Email modeltcoils(at)windstream(dot)net.
by Ron Patterson
Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:08 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Wanted to Buy Model T Ford Ignition Coils
Replies: 0
Views: 467

Wanted to Buy Model T Ford Ignition Coils

Looking to buy large stashes of used rebuildable Model T Ford ignition coils. I will buy your used coils outright for cash, trade for rebuilt coils or take your extras as full or partial payment. The more coils you have the better this works. If the quantity is right, I can also pay shipping so I ca...
by Ron Patterson
Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:43 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Weak mag ?!?
Replies: 3
Views: 518

Re: Weak mag ?!?

FunProjects St. Louis magneto tester is the best way to measure the output of a Model T magneto.
by Ron Patterson
Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:46 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: For Sale-Model T Ford Special Tools
Replies: 1
Views: 752

Re: For Sale-Model T Ford Special Tools

All the Ford tools have been sold as one lot to Don Lang.
Thank you MTFCA Classifieds.
by Ron Patterson
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:38 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: For Sale-Model T Ford Special Tools
Replies: 1
Views: 752

For Sale-Model T Ford Special Tools

I have the following unique tools for the Model T Ford that I would like to sell. 1. Reproduction (Scherzer) K.R. Wilson magneto gap gauge. Has original type non-magnetic tip. 2. Original Stevens T-181 front hub hubcap thread repair tool. Excellent condition. 3. Ford 3-Z-2316 Front wheel hub bearing...
by Ron Patterson
Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:38 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: NEW PRICE-NOS generator third brush holders
Replies: 1
Views: 541

NEW PRICE-NOS generator third brush holders

Quantity thirty generator third (movable) brush holders. Original Ford Aluminum die cast (not pot metal) third brush holders made by Stewart Warner. If you rebuild generators ans starters you know Stewart made high quality die cast brush holders. These still have original copper flash coating. Compl...
by Ron Patterson
Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:17 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Question on generator
Replies: 4
Views: 778

Re: Question on generator

Charles
I will be home all day tomorrow.
Give me a call and I will try to help you.
Give me a call after 11am EST-859-881-1677.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Sun May 24, 2020 2:08 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Triple gear pins pressed into flywheel
Replies: 4
Views: 631

Re: Triple gear pins pressed into flywheel

That information can be found on the ROC (Record of Change) Cards for the flywheel (factory #T-701) and triple gear pins (factory #T-715) and associated Ford drawings depicting each change.
by Ron Patterson
Sat May 23, 2020 4:09 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: For Sale: Original NOS Model T Ford Generator Third Brush Holders
Replies: 3
Views: 487

For Sale: Original NOS Model T Ford Generator Third Brush Holders

Quantity thirty NOS generator third (movable) brush holders. Original Ford Aluminum die cast (not pot metal) third brush holders. Still have the original copper flash coating. Complete with NOS brush springs and correct clamp bolts and nuts. These are original NOS Ford replacement parts for the brok...
by Ron Patterson
Sat May 16, 2020 9:34 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Wanted to Buy Model T Ford Ignition Coils
Replies: 0
Views: 415

Wanted to Buy Model T Ford Ignition Coils

Looking to buy large stashes of used rebuildable Model T Ford ignition coils. I will buy your used coils outright for cash, trade for rebuilt coils or take your extras as full or partial payment. The more coils you have the better this works. If the quantity is right, I can also pay shipping. I have...
by Ron Patterson
Fri May 15, 2020 7:01 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: No longer taking orders for Model T Generator and Starter Rebuilding Services
Replies: 2
Views: 792

No longer taking orders for Model T Generator and Starter Rebuilding Services

Effectively immediately I am no longer taking orders for rebuilt Model T Ford generators and starters.
That business has been sold.
I will continue to do coil rebuilding as I have in the past.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Thu May 14, 2020 10:04 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Rebuilt generator
Replies: 11
Views: 1316

Re: Rebuilt generator

I do not anticipate any changes to my Model T Ford ignition coil rebuilding activities.
In fact, I recently purchased enough parts to rebuild coils for the next ten years.
Then, after forty years of coil rebuilding I will probably stop.
Thinking positively.
Ron
by Ron Patterson
Thu May 14, 2020 9:21 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Rebuilt generator
Replies: 11
Views: 1316

Model T Ford Generator and Starter Rebuilding

I am no longer rebuilding Model T Ford generators and starters.
I am in the initial stages of transitioning the rebuilding business/process to the new owner.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Thu May 07, 2020 6:16 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Source of 6 Volt Battery
Replies: 32
Views: 2286

Re: Source of 6 Volt Battery

When buying a new 6 volt battery always take your voltmeter along and ensure the battery reads at least 6.35 volts.
If it doesn't it has been sitting on the shelf for a while and I would not buy it.
by Ron Patterson
Thu May 07, 2020 9:52 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Ignorance is Bliss or Is this big trouble in little pieces??
Replies: 9
Views: 1167

Re: Ignorance is Bliss or Is this big trouble in little pieces??

Failed transmission clutch drum lug shoe failure has a long history and resulted from lug shoes being formed of metal with the grain structure running parallel to the longitudinal axis of the shoe as opposed to perpendicular. That problem has since been resolved by the manufacturer. Search earlier f...
by Ron Patterson
Sun May 03, 2020 2:25 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Starter sealed bearing parts number?
Replies: 9
Views: 864

Re: Starter sealed bearing parts number?

Mark The length of the spacer may need minor adjustment. The brush cap is a deep drawn steel stamping and they are not all exactly the same depth. The critical issue is that the brush holders do not contact the sides of the commutator when the starter is assembled and turning. It also depends upon h...
by Ron Patterson
Sun May 03, 2020 8:45 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Starter sealed bearing parts number?
Replies: 9
Views: 864

Re: Starter sealed bearing parts number?

The 1/2 ID spacer is .313 long.
by Ron Patterson
Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:04 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: First Start of the Season Fuel Mixture Problems
Replies: 15
Views: 1375

Re: First Start of the Season Fuel Mixture Problems

No one has mentioned the position of the spark lever during magneto starting.
Se attached.
by Ron Patterson
Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:59 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Assembly of Fun Projects Coilbox kit
Replies: 12
Views: 1162

Re: Assembly of Fun Projects Coilbox kit

Bill If you turn down the bolt head diameter to the same diameter as a Ford bolt it is impossible to get it too lose. You have to drive the square shank of all the screws into the thermo-plastic round bolt holes which will tighten them right it up and the nuts on the end of the bolts will hold them ...
by Ron Patterson
Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:36 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Assembly of Fun Projects Coilbox kit
Replies: 12
Views: 1162

Re: Assembly of Fun Projects Coilbox kit

Bill The Fun Projects kit does not include the 10 bolts. The original ten Ford bolts have a head diameter of .354. Those reproduction bolts have a head diameter of .448. Chuck one of the repro bolts in a lathe and turn the head down to .354. Check for proper fit Cut a slot in the bolt head for the w...
by Ron Patterson
Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Timing degrees after top dead center ??
Replies: 29
Views: 2635

Re: Timing degrees after top dead center ??

Mario
If the piston has been correctly set at 15.5 degrees ATDC it will have traveled .093 thousandths down into the cylinder on the Power stroke.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:59 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: ANCO timing set with 2 1/2" gauge
Replies: 5
Views: 998

Re: ANCO timing set with 2 1/2" gauge

Mark Perhaps it is because Steve Coniff and I spent so much time years ago investigating and writing articles about the much misunderstood "Model T Ford Ignition System and Spark Timing" was designed and actually worked that I harp on you understanding this subject getting this correct. Frankly, we ...
by Ron Patterson
Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:11 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Timing degrees after top dead center ??
Replies: 29
Views: 2635

Re: Timing degrees after top dead center ??

If you imagine a clock face and the crankshaft pin pointing at 9:15 am and 3:15 pm the piston will be at 15.5 ATDC.
by Ron Patterson
Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:10 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Timing degrees after top dead center ??
Replies: 29
Views: 2635

Re: Timing degrees after top dead center ??

The Model T Ford initial timing was originally factory set at 15.5 degrees ATDC with the spark lever fully retarded. There were two reasons for this; first was for safety when starting on battery and the second was to facilitate hand crank starting on the magneto. Here is a link to an article Steve ...
by Ron Patterson
Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Damage Theory
Replies: 19
Views: 2361

Re: Damage Theory

This damage looks to me like a broken off fan blade that hit the side of the fender and punctured it.
by Ron Patterson
Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:48 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Rebuilt starter really cranks!
Replies: 6
Views: 1278

Re: Rebuilt starter really cranks!

Bob I view the addition of a high quality ½ ID 6201 ball bearing and armature shaft spacer to the starter as not an operational performance enhancement, rather it is a long-term reliability enhancement. Let me explain The Babbitt bushing Ford used in the starter brushcap was a cheap easy solution, u...
by Ron Patterson
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:07 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Rebuilt starter really cranks!
Replies: 6
Views: 1278

Re: Rebuilt starter really cranks!

Ignacio Yes, they do degrade over time, but remember they are 100+ years old. When I was a kid in the 50’s and 60’s my father was an automobile mechanic and when he sent me the auto parts store to get him a “rebuilt” starter or generator he knew he could expect a unit that had been completely disass...
by Ron Patterson
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:54 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: odd coil
Replies: 10
Views: 1510

Re: odd coil

I posted this information on this forum in the past. As Dan Hatch pointed out during the 1950's to late 1970's several companies needing an ignition source made ignition coils that were the same size and shape as the Model T coil, but the internal circuit design was different. As I recall there are ...
by Ron Patterson
Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:58 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: odd coil
Replies: 10
Views: 1510

Re: odd coil

Pictures??
by Ron Patterson
Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:14 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Coil capacitors
Replies: 21
Views: 3107

Re: Coil capacitors

I have been rebuilding Model T Ford ignition coils for over 30 Years. I kept examples of the range of various replacement capacitors I found inside. Many .047 U Farad caps, Metalized Mylar and electrolytics. I seems that some felt size was the most important criteria when in reality the DV/DT rating...
by Ron Patterson
Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:19 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: NEED SOME HELP
Replies: 1
Views: 503

NEED SOME HELP

I need a copy (or a photo copy) of the book "How to Make a Magneto Magnetizer" by Author David J. Gingery.
Can Anyone help?
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:49 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: NOTICE:CHICKASHA PIZZA PARTY HAS BEEN CANCELED.
Replies: 5
Views: 1549

NOTICE:CHICKASHA PIZZA PARTY HAS BEEN CANCELED.

We are sorry to inform you that due to reasons beyond our control the Chickasha Pizza Party has been canceled.
This was a great idea, but the timing and public health environment is all wrong.
Ron, Don and John
by Ron Patterson
Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 4 screw brass top coils
Replies: 20
Views: 2314

Re: 4 screw brass top coils

Understand and thanks.
What was the process KW used, anyone know?
by Ron Patterson
Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:27 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 4 screw brass top coils
Replies: 20
Views: 2314

Re: 4 screw brass top coils

Randall Very cryptic and obliquely critical? I am "some people" who use faux finishes. So exactly what was the "gun-blue-like chemical treatment" that KW used on their (mostly 6 screw) metal top coils that were made in parallel with Ford in 1914? At this point I am now thinking "black oxide". Ron Pa...
by Ron Patterson
Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:21 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Winding motors by hand
Replies: 12
Views: 2081

Re: Winding motors by hand

Another interesting fact.
Ward Leonard Company has been in business for over 100 years. In the early days they manufactured all kinds of electrical apparatus for early automobiles including reverse current cutouts for Model T Fords.
by Ron Patterson
Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:15 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Winding motors by hand
Replies: 12
Views: 2081

Re: Winding motors by hand

Here is a photo.
by Ron Patterson
Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:12 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Winding motors by hand
Replies: 12
Views: 2081

Re: Winding motors by hand

Interesting photos and article. Big electric motors, generators and transformer windings. When I was a kid motor repair shops were easy to find and did all kinds of motor rotor and stator rewinding. Today it is very hard to find an armature rewinding shop. I use a company in Chicago area to get Mode...
by Ron Patterson
Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:46 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Starter bendix springs
Replies: 10
Views: 1483

Re: Starter bendix springs

Jeff
Both Model T and A Bendix drive springs are left hand wound hence the suffix "L" in the part number.
See page 5 of the attached Bendix drive data with hand written A and T spring part numbers.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Starter bendix springs
Replies: 10
Views: 1483

Re: Starter bendix springs

Here are complete details.
Model T Bendix drive springs are Bendix part number L10-6 and 1 15/16 OD
Model A Bendix drive springs are Bendix part number L11-6X and 2 1/8 OD
Both springs are 1 5/16 ID, 1 3/4 Length, 5/16 screw diameter and have seven coils.
by Ron Patterson
Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:42 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Starter bendix springs
Replies: 10
Views: 1483

Re: Starter bendix springs

No, Model T and Model A Bendix Drive springs are different sizes.
by Ron Patterson
Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:44 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Chickasha Pizza Party Two Weeks From Today at Noon
Replies: 5
Views: 1104

Chickasha Pizza Party Two Weeks From Today at Noon

Everyone is invited to join us at Swap Space NH 8-10 in the West side of the North Building Friday March 20th at Noon for a pizza lunch sponsored by Don Lang, John Regan and Ron Patterson. You may also purchase a copy of the "HCCT Handbook" from the MTFCA at a special Chickasha Swap Meet reduced pri...
by Ron Patterson
Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:39 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Wanted to Buy-Model T Ford Ignition Coils-Chickasha Space NH 8-10
Replies: 0
Views: 882

Wanted to Buy-Model T Ford Ignition Coils-Chickasha Space NH 8-10

Looking to buy large stashes of used rebuildable Model T Ford ignition coils. I will buy your used coils outright for cash or trade for my legendary rebuilt coils and take your extras as full or partial payment. The more coils you have the better this works. If the quantity is right, I can also pay ...
by Ron Patterson
Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: MTFCA Announces Publication of New Book: "HCCT Handbook" by Bob Cascisa and Ron Patterson
Replies: 22
Views: 3006

Re: MTFCA Announces Publication of New Book: "HCCT Handbook" by Bob Cascisa and Ron Patterson

Bob Cascisa and I will have 50 copies of the HCCT Handbook for sale on behalf of the MTFCA at Chickasha space NH 8-10.
by Ron Patterson
Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:43 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: For Sale: Two Rebuilt Model T Ford Starting Motors-Can Deliver to Chickasha
Replies: 3
Views: 797

Re: For Sale: Two Rebuilt Model T Ford Starting Motors-Can Deliver to Chickasha

The two rebuilt Model T Ford starting motors have been sold.
Thanks MTFCA Classifieds.
by Ron Patterson
Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:29 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: For Sale: Two Rebuilt Model T Ford Starting Motors-Can Deliver to Chickasha
Replies: 3
Views: 797

For Sale: Two Rebuilt Model T Ford Starting Motors-Can Deliver to Chickasha

I rarely have unsold rebuilt starters on the shelf ready to ship, if you need one now is the time to act as they won’t last long. My normal turn around time for rebuilt starters is 6 months. The price is $375 each plus UPS shipping. These are fully rebuilt units and not patched up junk. Every part h...
by Ron Patterson
Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Accessory starter bendix
Replies: 6
Views: 902

Re: Accessory starter bendix

The early Model A Ford's equipped with the Abel starter had 1/2 inch armature shafts.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:49 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Adjusting Coils(and other factors as carb adjustment, and mechanicals) and Vehicle Performance
Replies: 5
Views: 835

Re: Adjusting Coils(and other factors as carb adjustment, and mechanicals) and Vehicle Performance

A single point distributor ignition system and the four coil ignition system used by the Model T are fundamentally the same. For each individual function in one system there is an equivalent function in the other. To say this another way the two systems are fundamentally the same the only difference...
by Ron Patterson
Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:44 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: What's Your Chickasha Space?
Replies: 23
Views: 2685

Re: What's Your Chickasha Space?

Don't Forget just three weeks away! The Chickasha Pre-War Swap Meet Pizza Party at noon Friday March 20th at the West side of the North Building swap space NH 8-10. Sponsored by Don Lang, John Regan and Ron Patterson and everyone is invited to join. We will also have for sale at a special reduced pr...
by Ron Patterson
Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:14 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: reperduction coils
Replies: 11
Views: 1716

Re: Reproduction coils

The problems with operating a properly set up Model T Ford ignition system on 6 Volts only are not commonly understood. Many years ago Steve Coniff and I co-wrote an article describing the fundamentals of the commonly misunderstood Model T Ford ignition system. Here is a link to that article entitle...
by Ron Patterson
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:44 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: reperduction coils
Replies: 11
Views: 1716

Re: reperduction coils

This reply pertains to mid year 1913 and later Model T coils. I fully agree with Adam Doleshal and would add that most people are not aware that the black plastic coils are now made in various version based upon their intended application. The very early plastic coils (circa 1960) can be made to wor...
by Ron Patterson
Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:14 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Anderson Timer question
Replies: 12
Views: 1049

Re: Anderson Timer question

Adam
Your right and I am wrong.
Thanks
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:35 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Anderson Timer question
Replies: 12
Views: 1049

Re: Anderson Timer question

Ramp
The camshaft turns counterclockwise.
by Ron Patterson
Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:34 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Where does this starter peice go
Replies: 8
Views: 1100

Re: Where does this starter peice go

Alan
Many of the early Bendix drive counter weights are not drilled for the Anti Drift Pin.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:15 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Where does this starter peice go
Replies: 8
Views: 1100

Re: Where does this starter peice go

Mack
The correct name is "anti drift pin "
It works as Stephan H. pointed out.
Many early Model T Ford Bendix drives did not include this part.
Ron Patterson
by Ron Patterson
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:50 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Chickasha Pre War Swap Meet Special
Replies: 0
Views: 430

Chickasha Pre War Swap Meet Special

Bring your coils needing rebuilding to me at Chickasha Pre War Swap Meet (West side of the North building swap space NH-8-10 and I will return them to you rebuilt via USPS Priority Mail at no cost to you. If you have coils you would like to sell or trade for rebuilding, bring those coils along too. ...
by Ron Patterson
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:47 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Chickasha Pre War Swap Meet Special
Replies: 0
Views: 323

Chickasha Pre War Swap Meet Special

Bring your coils needing rebuilding to me at Chickasha Pre War Swap Meet (West side of the North building swap space NH-8-10 and I will return them to you rebuilt via USPS Priority Mail at no cost to you. If you have coils you would like to sell or trade for rebuilding, bring those coils along too. ...
by Ron Patterson
Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:04 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: What is this ??
Replies: 57
Views: 6344

Re: What is this ??

Larry
Here is a photo of the first thing that failed. The rest is consequential.
But, I cannot figure how the band adjusting flat washer and lockwasher got loose inside the engine.
Ron
by Ron Patterson
Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:06 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Michigan UP Tour Idea
Replies: 24
Views: 3135

Re: Michigan UP Tour Idea

Dave The sawmill and town built by Ford at Alberta still exists and can be toured. In the town of L'Anse the Ford port, buildings and water tower with Ford script still exist. Near Ishpeming the huge Ford sawmill is abandoned but still standing. It takes some sleuthing to find it though. And don't m...
by Ron Patterson
Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:00 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Michigan UP Tour Idea
Replies: 24
Views: 3135

Re: Michigan UP Tour Idea

Don't forget the Ford Sawmill and logging sites in the UP.