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Just remember, the magneto puts out AC voltage. Make sure your test equipment is set for AC voltage between 0 and 10 to check idle voltage which should be around 6 to 8 volts AC, ... Mid-throttle engine speed should give you 25 volts AC.

Deperdussin1910..... Sounds like your magneto contact is okay but your magnets have to be recharged. .... Doesn't need engine dismantling, can be done in car with care.

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John... No comment..., maybe you need another cup of coffee.

John... Alternating current and direct current wave forms are different.... Ask Ron Patterson.

John... Procedure you described in most parts applies to starting on magneto instead of battery. ..... And that's after setting the initial timing as outlined in the Ford manual. Battery ignition, spark lever is fully up on starting.

I think I saw Uncle Fester waving from the roof !

What are the A / C numbers that you refer to?.... Possible that the magnets would have to be recharged. You always see a slight decreased voltage when it is used by the ignition system.

Hopefully everyone will read your informative post Jeff and learn to prevent problems.

How did you set your initial engine timing?... Video shows advanced timing on that crank start with the crank handle kicking back.

Apparently Speedytinc doesn't know what a 1920 straight through NH carburetor looks like, neither a 1913 Ford aluminum intake. The aftermarket hot air pipe has two circular vanes inside to start swirling the intake air and the internal valve was removed so it is a straight-through pipe. The gas tubi...

Unfortunately, some will learn the hard way on why their wrist was broken.

Speedytinc. ..... Post pictures of your '27 T. engine and carb installation to compare.

Share the picture already. I can't stand the suspense

Hey Speedytinc ..... Will all of us get to see those pictures besides Mike S. ????..

You will need to get a similar set screw choke wire anchor on the rod and position it so it does not interfere with the hot air pipe when you turn the mixture screw... After that's done, just simply measure for another connecting wire between the pull and the carburetor choke lever

New replacement after coil removal ??? I've done that and treated all coil boxes and plastic with linseed/solvent mix.

Dave... What was the condition of the wood sections of the coil box.. would you consider replacing with new wood replacements, and consider coating the wood with mix of boiled linseed oil and a touch of lacquer thinner to help seal out moisture?

Dad had a good idea... And as long as you have two lefts and two rights on those NOS Sleeves, you're set.

Interesting responses.... Since we were not given a photo picture of what had to be done., for one extreme to another depends on procedure with what you're presented.

I would remove the box from the firewall, remove the metal center brace of the box entirely and rivits, then proceed to tap the coils out by hitting the bottom of the box wood to force them out. If they're stuck in the box to begin with, not only do you have to probably dry out the coils wood casing...

Question... Why can't the engine run better with a larger spark plug gap?

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My opinion is that an increased spark plug gap cause a negative effect on ignition coil condition. A basic spark plug gap of 0.025 inches will fire accurately with a well-adjusted ignition coil. .... Increased spark plug gap puts a strain on the coil and the delays firing time because more energy is...

Mike... I use Mobil One -high mileage - 10W30 synthetic. Just make sure your oil pan inspection plate is snugged up along with your transmission door screws and the bolts on your valve cover.. just to minimize leakage.... Also the starter mounting screws and the Bendix cover screws.

Mike S. ..... That big exploding spark at the points on that coil probably indicates the internal condenser is shot.

I would suggest doing one step at a time.. replace your timer and be sure the initial timing setting is correct, start the car and see if there's any change in running. Second step, I would be sure to clean the original plugs and Gap them to 0.025", then start the car and see how it runs. If there i...

Mike S. ....... Hi, I would take the time to examine and evaluate what is in the car, original equipment and non-original, and get some manuals from the MTFCA to familiarize with what you do have.

Brian, I haven't seen those for sale for a long time. I purchased mine maybe 20 years ago, still in the car, looking New as when I put it on. Stainless steel was the best pic at the time.

Check with your certified part supplier, I believe the 26-27 steering bracket used two bushings..... Replaced mine over 20 years ago and I kind of remember replacing two bushings, but Mr. Snyder tells me differently.,.. Time for another cup of coffee.

Reno Speedster.... How did you make out cleaning and rebuilding your carburetor?

Hey Professor... How was your ride?... Weather was great!.

Dan... Many thanks again, appreciate your help.

Looks like a need to order a new timing rod from one of our suppliers. It will have the curves and angles that is necessary in that rod for proper clearances. Adjustments can be made to the new timing rod, either to lenghten/or shorten, to establish/retain initial proper commutator spark setting.

If you still have one coil buzzing all the time there is a short in the wiring somewhere.. and that has nothing to do with coil calibration....... Even when equally calibrating your four coils , each coil will have its own distinct sound when firing in the car probably due to things such as tightnes...

Dan,... Email sent, thank you Bob

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Great quality achievements !!! .... " Ask the man who own's one " .

Not being able to see the condition of your radiator, if you think that you should take it to a trusted radiator shop in your area, I'm sure they could advise you the condition and what has to be done.

What size cotter pin used in clutch finger adjustment?.... Diameter and length. Thanks in advance

Mailman just delivered the July- August issue of the "Vintage Ford " in coastal New Jersey !

If you do fill the radiator to the top, start the car and in the time, water will drip out of the overflow tube simply because water volume expands when it gets hot. ..Since the New engine has very few miles on since the rebuild, it may run a little hot..... I'm sure you're running the engine with t...

Reno Speedster ..... Dirt, sediment, rust, old gas Gunk,.... will keep any inlet valve from properly closing. When was your gas supply system or carburetor last cleaned out?.... Curious to what you will find.

" After boil ", as you refer, is result of the fan not pulling air through the radiator and over the engine while the engine is running.....normal.

Good news!..

JuanitoOgrady..... I agree with Ed. Fuller's recommendation to seal inlet valve mounting into carburetor. If you can find an original NH float valve and seat, both tapers can be dressed , put into a drill and then you can apply finger pressure on a fine abrasive medium to take out burrs where slight...

Lang's sells Right side tail light brackets, used with same light assembly.

Is there anyone in your local chapter that rebuilds and recalibrates coils?

Every commutator replacement requires correct adjustment of initial timing position, regardless of manufacturer.

.. Extra Restored coils should be kept in a secure, protected environment such as a locked coil box or packaged in cardboard to protect the point set on top of coils from any pressure or physical damage to offset coil calibration. Ignition coils that are kept under the seat in a car are subject to b...

Sounds like good progress.. as far as the initial mixture, a turn and a half to two turns would be okay for starting, but you'll find that once the engine warms up the mixture would have to be leaned out to run better..... Besides flushing out that old gas, you may want to check the sediment bowl sc...

Conrad ..... How are you doing with the NH carb re-build so far ?

Correct float level is only to set a shut-off valve. As the engine uses fuel, the float will lower opening the valve. At the end of the day after pulling into the garage I leave the engine running, shut the fuel off at the carburetor and it runs for at least one minute before using up gas in the fue...

With the proper float setting, it will give enough time for gas passage into the carburetor for a continuous steady service .... If varnishing and sticking is a problem, the whole gas delivery system has to be cleaned due to dirt, old gas, neglect, .... no matter what diameter inlet valve is used, e...

Correct float level in any carburetor will not cause fuel starvation... If you're low on gas in the tank, the engine will stutter and stop running...... The grose-jet valve appear to sitting too high for the reason of double gaskets during assembly........ The float adjustment is with the Tang that'...

Check for double gaskets at the valve seat... Spray the whole carb and parts with carburetor cleaner correctly. Set the correct float level with the grose- jet intake valve. .... And enjoy!.... off the top of my memory, I'm thinking the float level measured from the carburetor flange should be 15/64...

After you finish prepping and painting the spring leaves, I suggest getting powdered graphite from the hardware store. .....Use chassis grease & lightly grease both sides of each spring leaf,.... just the bottom of the top leaf and the top of the bottom leaf,... and lightly sprinkle graphite on each...

BobT ..... New spark plugs of any brand can be defective, wouldn't be a problem if an analog meter was used to test each plug for continuity before installation.. this would eliminate a potential problem.

With any spark plugs for the Model T, check for continuity between the center electrode and the top screw terminal. The ones that don't fire, are the ones that do not show continuity....

Better yet, .... Is the float set correctly for the carburetor he's using?

Dan, you have a good point there. Bruce was one of our founders and took time to write a true Ford history book.... The book cover pictured above is from the 1994 rerun issued by Krause publications, unfortunately, in my opinion had poor print and faded/blurred looking pictures compared to the first...

Has the coil ring itself looked like having any damage to the coils or the coil strips between the 16 coils?. Use a analog meter to test continuity first on the whole unit and then for each individual coil.. there may be a break between one or more of the 16 coils on the magnito ring.

I also would recommend contacting Snyder's Antique Auto parts..... If you have a spring assembly that just needs to be replaced , send and they may take time to duplicate that for you.

Speedytinc.... For my standard it's either a "go or no-go" test basis result.

Big2Bird ..... Your strictly visual results are important indicators of a coil problem without using electronic methods. Thank you. Hopefully those who read your post will look to have their coils checked/ rebuilt.

Hey Speedytinc ..... Used both analog meter and ECCT to check capacitors.... Both testing methods showed failed capacitors on the same two coils.

Thanks Dan and Big2bird !.,.,. I can account for the changes in my two previous posts, it was a six coil order, not five.

I can only assume that all of those capacitors used in the the six coils were from the same batch, only two that had leaked.

A set of six coils I rebuilt 26 years ago came back to be adjusted.. in checking the secondaries, all passed, but on two coils capacitor leakage was indicated. All six of these coils had the orange drop capacitor installed on that first rebuild.. replaced those two with new stock orange drops and th...

Varmint..... Looks like a stainless steel muffler.... Due to the frame flexibility, a muffler clamp really isn't necessary,.... If muffler clamp is used, the mounting bracket for the muffler will be found twisted out of shape. .... After straightening the end mounting bracket on the muffler, just si...

Rick.... Lang's has 14 mm spark plugs that they use with adapters for the standard Ford head. Being that you have is cylinder head with 14 mm, I would call them and ask if there would be any clearance problems if you use the 14 mm plugs in the brand of cylinder head you have on the car. I believe us...

Does headlight brightness really play into this?... Or is it specifically misaligned headlight aiming / continual hi-beam headlight use ? ..... And a chance I found that driving at posted speed limits, there are tailgaters in back of you with high beams on wanting you to increase speed, also oncomin...

Congratulations Reno on your second version choice, the one without the bolt holes.

Art... If Reno purchases the first version, I'd like to purchase the second version.

Steve, I've had some friends that said all they use are 14 mm plugs and they neglect to mention that the adapters stay in the head. No intent on any negativity, I just wanted clarity.

Hey Rick... Are you using adapters to use with the 14 mm plugs?..,.. or can you use the regular plugs ?

jp.... That was a definite early Christmas present !

Has the clutch lever bolt been adjusted so that the transmission goes in neutral when the parking brake lever is pulled vertical for neutral?

The early supplier of those nylon gears was a big problem all unto itself. The manufactured gears after that were made better and held up like mine with no problems.

Steve, with all respect, how many nylon Cam gears have you worn out or had problems with?

John and All : .. we've had a nylon advanced timing cam gear in our ' 26 runabout since the engine was rebuilt 20 or so years ago.. no problems whatsoever

Brassworks always needs more time to complete new radiators. Wouldn't hurt to check back with them

Very good question.. I never used a thermometer on the tar.. I would heat slow, occasionally stirring and when in a liquid state stir more until small bubbles may come up slowly and smoke a little. Stir a little more and notice the thinner viscosity and then pour the waiting coil boxes and top off. ...

Steep Type3 roofing tar ... Is what I use. ....For most of us, it's best to contact the local company that does commercial roof replacements to purchase at least 5 lb. . instead of buying from major suppliers a 100 lb block

Owwie ouch!.... ( plus explicatives )... Been there done that, it happened with my second set of rebuilt coils years ago.

Don't bother, you'll learn someday.

Karl... If this item was sold before I responded to your post, why did you not , in courtesy to the purchaser and yourself , state that it was sold through the MTFCA forum?

Same here John. Other members should be aware of this possible problem.

The opening in the floor is flanged to hold the covering lid

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The cover on our '26 runabout is made of multiple strips of wood with two metal strips screwed in holding everything together.

Sold. ..... Moxie26. Please email your contact info so I can send you a check. Thank you

Sold. ..... Moxie26. Please email your contact info so I can send you a check. Thank you

Every time you change a timer, the initial timing has to be reset... Which means the pull rod either has to be lengthened or shortened according to basic timer position....... Also every timer needs a little lubrication,.. looks like the one you pictured was running dry and had flaky metal drop into...

Before you put a new timer on, double check to see if cam cover plate was installed being centered on the camshaft.

Has anyone had experience with cotton woven linings made by Mark Auto Company, Layton N. J..... Currently out of business. I have a set of those linings for the improved Ford with the instructions copyrighted in 1974.

Chances are that your coils are not the original ones provided when the car was built. Different owners during the years had their hands into it. Changing and replacing things leaking. Melted outside the box tar usually indicates an overheated coil could be due to a bad timer, shorted timer wire, ba...

As a new Forum member, wouldn't hurt to have them all checked. Common faults..... capacitor leaks, coil points wear, lose calibration ,and get stuck with debris.

Thank you, Dan and Alan

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