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Hi Art ..... I'm not sure who made those capacitors, or even if they're still in business that I noticed also that they're not available. The ones that I installed in coil rebuilds as far as I know or still working because I haven't had any complaints.

Hey George, I wonder how that hack at that Ford dealership is doing. Had a nightmare with that camshaft being drilled all the way through for the commutator brush... And I was wondering why it wouldn't start for us..... Commutator brush was installed 180° off.

Run the engine and check for noise... If it's acceptable, that's your choice

Hey Jeff .... Did you ever have the original ANCO flapper spring pop out?

Get some headlight sockets, larger wattage incandescent headlight bulbs, hook in parallel, use as a load, so the generator will start gennin' after bulbs have been on for say 5 minutes or so. Using a standard cut out or voltage regulator to measure generator output ??

Jim... I have used boiled linseed oil on replacement wood . Gives you nice color to the wood and also seals against moisture and carbon tracking possibilities later on..... One to three coats of oil after a few days to me is fine before assembling into coil box.

I don't believe that would be enough carpet for a CenterDoor sedan... Maybe for a 26-27 Tudor or Fordor with a Ruxtell and a modified mixture/choke rod going through the upper right floor.

Were you able to start the truck on magneto?.... Strong possibility of your cutout points stuck together and drained the battery .

After replacing the condenser, soldering the connections, repotting with Hot tar will assure the adhesion to the tar in the rest of the coil unit and this way from Rocky road, vibrations and engine vibrations will eliminate wire breakage inside the coil

I think the main question is how would the silicone or the aerosol filler adhere with the tar that's in the coil to make one solid unit.

Thumbs up, John,. ... glad you fixed your problems

And after your connections are checked , and the side is replaced, hot tar will keep everything in position including the wood side you replaced , no glue needed on the wood.

Later made Plastic case coils... Capacitor, replacement and potting

New capacitor , soldered leads , and re-potted with hot tar

Original Smith... Please share your fix to this problem

Could be that there's a mix between the 26-27 spindles compared to the earlier ones. The improved spindles are set a little bit higher, thus lowering the car a bit.

As long as you use new bushings, the kingpins should fit fine

Happy E-Timer Anniversary !!!!!

...... April 7th, 1947, Henry Ford died.

They sell what is beneficial to coil needs and performance.

The 418 series capacitors are the ones that I received from one of the major suppliers of Model T parts

This is the correct capacitor that our major vendors have available. . .... Some have referred to this as the "orange drop" capacitor.

After cleaning the commutator, and charging does not register, contact : www.modeltstarters.com. .

Dennis... The suppliers have already selected the capacitors that will work and last in our coils. Yes, there are other capacitors with different ratings but the selection has already been made. Contact one of our suppliers for capacitors and you will be satisfied.

If you only for the most part, use the car for short trips, setting the generator to put out 6 to 10 amp maximum would be beneficial, and if you plan a longer trip turning on your headlights, we'll use up that extra charging. Amperage , showing a lower charging rate of maybe four to six amps dependi...

At one time or another, we all need a new replacement for our 6 volt battery. Have you considered checking out the amperage reading on your ammeter while running? On average anp meter reading should be 8 to 10 amps positive. As lead acid batteries do get older, they will need distilled water added t...

What describes them as tractor coils?

Extra photos found in stash...

Since the iPhone camera will not accurately photograph things due to camera position, I assure that the upper bridge is perfectly straight to the surface of the wood coil case and to start there is a 0.030" gap. Coil adjustment will change during testing.

Ralph... Here are some pictures from my file showing results of proper ECCT coil results

Good question John... In my experience, digital meters sometimes will not hold to a value without fluctuating.

Ralph... With respect to the holidays and family, and have time to get back to your Model. T. Coils, let us know the results of your testing.

Good morning Ralph..... Happy to be helpful on your testing procedures, plus save you the expense and time of replacing good capacitors.

Hello Ralph... Be sure to have a piece of paper between your coil points before putting in the tester, then check for capacitor rating.. . Your stroboSpark tester possibly could be defective. Would there be anyone in your group that has a ECCT ?..... The method of setting/ adjusting electrical outpu...

. ..... A learning experience ride with modern backup vehicle. Lots of common sense.

I also can't wait for part two !

Good morning Mopar Man... That video was really a history lesson in that the way people viewed and used the Model. T in the early days and how we view and use the Model T. In today's acceptance society..... Going from point A to point B has been going on since the Stone age but the Model T enjoyment...

Sorry, but it really looks like the southwest corner of Broadway and West 42nd.

With Alan's post, .......
, since my coil box is on top of the engine I have not had problems with sticking boiled linseed oil coated wood coils , in a boiled linseed oil coated wood coil box , hot or cold weather . Proper disposal of application material is always important.

Consult your WellStocked component supplier for replacement part, possibility of him fixing it for you.

Multiple coatings of boiled linseed oil is another method to seal wood from moisture.

Would your coils in question be what you have in your stock, or are they freshly rebuilt?... It really doesn't matter where you store your old purchased coils, but your newly rebuilt and calibrated coils should stand upright in old boxes with enough height to have a solid lid placed on top of the bo...

Does anyone know the development in history of the Anderson timer?

Ed Fuller......your expertise on ignition keys is very appreciated and valuable. Thanks !!

If, as was said, the Grosse-Jet valve balls get sticky and stay open or closed,...... it does so from the gunk that's in the gas tank , line, and sediment bowl. Just a personal observation... I've used that style valve in my carburetor the past 25 years and never had a problem.... Guess I never had ...

Going with that assumption, the original engine could have been done on April 1st. 1925, so this combination of letters and numbers duplicated what was replaced?

Block casting alongside block number...... Engine is installed in a 1925 touring car.

Engine block has been stamped.... AN7754. I'm thinking it is a replacement block made after 1927 to 1941 era. It is hooked up with a 26-27 hogshead but the block does not have the extra flange area for the top of the hog's head to bolt. Would anyone have any idea where this block was manufactured?.....

Will ... Changing to 10W30 oil would contribute to a better running engine..... even in Florida.

Using the 10W30 synthetic detergent motor oil will help to flush out deposits from the 40 straight . , especially on the piston rings preventing wear expansion. Check for compression numbers in all four cylinders..... Don't overfill with oil, refill with 3 and 1/2 quarts. Then check upper oil level ...

Change to 10W30 high mileage Mobil 1 oil, and use the standard Ford hot air intake before the carburetor.

Whatever the lining material is, the RIVITS were installed backwards.... Wood linings installation would have the rivet on the lining side.

So far I see most people prefer the E Timer, but when I checked on the web page there is nothing in stock. Are they still in business? In any business,..... the factors of supply and demand... And the quality of parts available, play an important part of having any item produced..... Then again the...

WWW.MODELTETIMER.COM - my preferred choice also, and our 1926 Runabout has run flawlessly the last 12 years. Upon installation, you can choose between automatic spark advance, or conventional driver controlled spark advance.

Coil box, four coils, and the E-Timer.

Placed an order, and my focused beam LED headlight bulbs should be here delivered by Friday

Negative feedback??... Just remember there are three stories... Positive, negative, and then the truth. As far as I'm aware, Fun Projects , is no longer available because fun projects no longer exists. There may be some sales of that on eBay..... The original style Bendix mounted switch works fine a...

Reminds me of the Shell gas station back home in the early '50s before new pumps were put in... And regular gas 27.9 cents per gallon, ethel was 32.9 cents per gallon....

LED bulb literature says they would operate from 5 to 30 volts. Now is that AC or DC volts? ....Electric Magneto AC lighting has the bulbs connected in series which means power goes from one bulb through to another bulb to ground... If one bulb fails they all will not illuminate.... If idle speed do...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5nXfpvrlQW4&t=305s. Watch Paul Shinn install , aim and focus LED bulbs on Model A's..... Very similar to Model T headlight installation, aim and focusing. ..... Video may start towards end, so just move playback to the left to restart video.

Has anyone fitted the larger group 2 battery into the Model T battery carrier?... What modifications to the carrier had to be made? The red top battery will fit diagonally in the Model T carrier with added bracing needed.

Using the Ford specified negative or positive cable size, or even the next step larger cable size with any 6 Volt battery, with clean tightly installed terminals along with a Ford foot starter switch will ensure optimum performance for the starter. I also have a Optima red top 6 volt battery. Nuff s...

James ,.... Did you see the car this past weekend ?..… Battery connection problem solved ?

Signsup...... You got a few accurate answers on why a metal tube was used on the coolant intake from the radiator to the Model T engine. Those early Jeeps supplied for world war II did have four cylinder engines similar to the model T and Model A, were they equipped with water pumps or use the therm...

James... When you do see the battery this weekend most likely it will be a six volt group 2 battery, that was used in the Model A Ford with positive ground

James.... True-Fire manufacturing ceased quite a few years ago, the upgrade you are asking will not be available by the company since it no longer exists.

Words of a satisfied customer is absolutely priceless.

Yup

, just as roomy. . . . People 100 years ago were not only shorter than the average today, but they also weighed a lot less.... Oliver Hardy never had problem driving a Model T, no matter what, body style was on the chassis. And no one who drives in 1911 Torpedo should have a problem.

Another supporting issue is the copper diameter size of the battery cables. 6 Volt systems rely on usage of high amperage, not voltage. Minimum size of cables is 1/0. Using smaller diameter cables, such as on 12 volt systems, is just inviting irritating problems in use.

Wow Jim, you found a battery that fits in the battery box? Please post picture, brand and details on the battery... THANKS

in advance. Bob J.

Robert.... The Group 1 battery size is the standard for the Model T Ford. Due to the size of that battery carrier that Ford installed will not accept a six volt battery other than Group 1 size., using the standard Ford battery retaining clamps and bolts.

James... Different terminal location and different dimensions would classify that as a group different than group number one battery size.. Post a picture of the battery you have in question

Close-up on choke linkage

Hey George .... The regular brass choke wire that our vendors sell fits the use a little bit better than the larger gauge clothes hanger wire.... One length will would be slightly longer from outside the radiator to the choke lever at the vaporizer, conversely, not enough wire to fit between the ins...

From Bruce's book

Picture from Bruce's book

Just narrow your request, such as 6 volt headlight bulbs in their search box.

Seeing that you do have several Model T's , do any of them have electric headlights that run off the magneto?.. the LED bulbs will work with no problem on 6 volt or 12 volt battery/ generator power. Magneto headlight bulbs are wired in series and markings on original bulbs they can be used at voltag...

www.ledlight.com I've used lights from this company the past 4 years and very satisfied with brightness and detail..... My car is 6 volt . Headlights and tail lights are LED and use very little amperage compared to standard bulbs.

Vintage Ford arrived in coastal New Jersey today. Thanks!

You may want to consider going back to using the Ford ignition coils with the updated E-Timer. ...... Issue of pot metal parts disintegrating will no longer be in the picture.

Don't forget to oil everything in the suspension

The kingpin does thread into the bottom of the axel for tightness, whereas the the cotter pinned nut locks in the adjustment.

Looks like everyone had an interesting and educational day. Wish I was there.

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If you want to save all the old coil hardware, cut yourself a length of clothes hanger wire, put the springs, standoffs, and nuts on the wire and then polish up on a wire wheel. Once cleaned, those old springs can be extended by outward pressure to fit your needs on coil rebuilding.

Kind of remember a yellow two-seater with the gas tank behind the seats exposed and spares behind.

Hi Chris... Is Grandpa's 1912-1913? Buick speedster still in the family... I remember meeting him at one of the North Jersey Buick meets at a dealership back in the early '90s

The sounds you hear could be coming from a few sections of the drive train.... ring & pinion gear noise from worn bushings, worn roller bearings, worn ball cap bushing, worn drive shaft bushing, engine with misaligned engine pan. U-Joint inspection involves ball cap bolt removal and disconnecting fr...

David... I cannot attend the Winter Clinic, .... any plans of video available after on the Forum ???

Keith, I agree with Adam.

Grease the axle so the seal slides on better

The. "old" one is activated by the sediment bowl lever, the new shutoff installed at the carb came after production ceased.

Find out if his office is open with a phone call....

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Kevin... Believe what you think, I agree with the others that the coil sound is normal. Each coil will have its own distinctive sound when firing, does not indicate same firing timing.

Is your coil box securely mounted to the firewall? Looseness could cause noise.

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Could also be used on block ice

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