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Thanks for the tips. I may change the radiator coolant. I have antifreeze in it since the shop isn’t heated for winter. Maybe I should use less antifreeze in it. It’s got over 1/2 antifreeze in it. We dont get long weeks of below freezing in central Texas. Maybe 1/4 antifreeze and the rest water mi...

Are you sure you don't mean Robert Peterson? He goes by Bobp on the forum. He has listings in the cars for sale.

If an old radiator/original, the fins separate from the tubes. You may be in need of a new radiator.

John and All : .. we've had a nylon advanced timing cam gear in our ' 26 runabout since the engine was rebuilt 20 or so years ago.. no problems whatsoever I and a friend of mine had recently made nylon gears have tooth failures as in breaking off. They must have been made better 20 years ago.

I'd recommend staying away from the plastic timing gear. I'd recommend the bronze gear https://www.modeltford.com/item/3047BB.aspx Call Langs to see if the 7.5 degree is available from them. I'm running one and it works good. If you have a generator, be sure the spacing is correct to the timing gear...

I know it’s not brake drag so I will try backing off the bands and freeing up the clutch discs. Would it hurt to pull start the car in high gear as I’m not sure I can crank start it with a new tight engine. It’s a 13 without a starter. With the back wheels jacked up you may be able to crank start t...

Just a reminder, set the meter to read AC voltage.

The later Layne Warfords come with a vent. See picture for location. You guess looks pretty good.

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Here is the switch wiring. You may need to take it apart and bend the tabs a bit for better contact.

Moxie26 wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:17 am
What would be a good source for thin wrenches... Example holding a post nut while tightening the cable nut on a starter switch.

For that task, I gut a slot in the post with a dremel, then hold the post with a screw driver to tighten the nut.

If you switch to LED bulbs for the turn signals, they may not flash unless you add resistors to the line. I'd just stay with 6V incandescent bulbs so the flasher has the load required to operate.

If you are asking, replace it. It is possibly 110 years old and that groove will be a weak area.

Shifting the Warford is more like using a two speed truck axle. If you unload the drive train it shifts easily. Key is to match engine speed to road speed for the range you want to go to. This requires a bid of throttle and shifter coordination. I find I occasionally need to "clutch" in some situati...

I suggest you make a separate post on each issue. Too many in one post to be answered thoroughly. Also get in touch with other T owners in your area as they can give first hand help.

Dan, even more snow in Huntsville!

Lang's has both used and new front hubs for wood wheels listed as available.

Shorten the actuating rod until you get the travel you want.

An automotive generator/starter shop may be your best bet. If you can find a long time establishment even better.

What Terry and Jim said is how I do mine. Remove from transmission but support the Warford.

Here is a link to Ron Patterson's schematic. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21799&p=167775&hili ... ic#p167775

A piece of appropriately sized PVC pipe is excellent for setting the inner seal. A bit of black RTV on the side that hits the inner axle housing makes for a good seal.

Well done. Good video. Hey it worked so a good fix. You might want to try the new production New Day timer. I switched to one and the performance difference is amazing.

Tom, you will be best served to use a chemical paint stripper. Steam/pressure will damage the soft wood. Be sure to mask off any areas you don't want to remove paint.

It would save a heap of work, which can be done at a later time, if you just weld the pedal to the shaft on the end, as suggested. Drive on and do a fix when you have the hogshead off some time. Allan from down under. Agree with Allen. Had to do that with my low pedal when I replaced the shaft. The...

It appears to be an early 1926 as you don't have the headlight bar. Posting engine and frame number we can give you the correct model year. Looks like you will need to go back to a generator instead of an alternator if you want all correct for the model year. Horn is not correct and it looks like so...

Go to the main MTFCA page, https://www.mtfca.com/ then About, then Chapters, Contact the local club and you should be able to find someone local.

Those look like the same mirrors I use on my Tudor. I have no issue with them and they work well. Have you set the little aliens into the hinge to prevent movement? If the mirror is moving on you, adjust them where you want, then place a dab of green loctite at the ball. It will wick in and keep it ...

Rich B. Your .010 min is way too close. I don't have a service manual with me, or I would give an accurate quote, but I believe the minimum is .025" When setting the clearance,(vertically) you want .010" more clearance @ the bottom to allow for sag. Yes, the 0.010 inch is too close, but Wally (the ...

The best check on worn balls and sockets for the wishbone is to fit the cap with no springs. If there is a rattle still, the ball/socket are well worn. You can buy new caps for the socket, and a shim in the socket may belp, but a built-up ball will be the real fix. Allan from down under. And if you...

Since you have chalked the wheels, place the lever all the way forward (high gear). That will squeeze out oil from between the clutch plates so that when you go to start there will be less drag after you pull the lever back before starting.

I made my own jack stands. Just need some steel pipe, flat stock and bracing stock. I set these in front of the radius rods when I remove a rear end.
Picture is of them at the front.

With modern fuels, I don't use a hot air pipe, but this filter from Lang's https://www.modeltford.com/item/CARB-FILT.aspx Works well and the filter part is washable and can be replaced. Some heat may be transferred from the hogs head, but probably not enough to make any difference.

Best fix is to have the wheel rebuilt by an experienced wheel shop, Stuzman is one. Your steering and brakes go thru your wheels making them a major safety item. Your wheel spokes and fellows are over 100 years old, they shrink and swell with humidity changes. When they swell they dig into the adja...

Allan is correct on lacing. You need to install the lacing on the shell when the shell is not on the car. Lacing is installed by weaving in and out of the holes. Start the two ends at the top, then work down each side. When you install the shell, the lacing will compress.

Try running the new New Day timer. I switched from an Anderson to the New Day and couldn't believe the difference in power. It is difficult to get every cylinder firing at the correct time with the Anderson, believe me I tried. I got close, but not as good as with the New Day.

If your rims are good enough you don't need flaps. Ford didn't use them and neither do I. Ford used new rims, and I use rims that are good enough to not need flaps. I make sure my rims are good before I have them galvanized (demountable) or send them to Stutzman (non-demountable). Steve, that may b...

To prevent twisting the stud, I used a dremel to cut a slot in the top of the post. I then use a screwdriver to hold the stud while I tighten the nuts, both the lower and upper.

The shims don't push the pinion further out on the taper. That is fixed. The shims move the position of the spool in relation to the pinion for setting depth of engagement. Once engagement is set, the spool position is locked with a collar. We (Bill Robinson and I) found this system very easy to set...

For the brake and turn signals I added an additional 15 amp fuse at the starter switch to power those items. It will make the ammeter show a charge when activated, but to me is the best point for protecting the circuit.

Motorcycle riders have been contending with this a long time. You want a Nozzle Buddy. http://www.millproprecisionmachining.co ... NZLBDY-200

I ran and Anderson on my 26, the timer rod runs to the front of the oil line. Perhaps you need a slight bow to the rod to clear the oil line. I found the stock rod to be the correct length.

On removing the old seals if you are not saving them, I read here one time to use 2 gutter screw run thru the metal of the seal , spaced about 180 degrees apart, and use them as pullers. That won't work with these seals. Too deep and you can't reach them. That technique works with modern lip seals ...

When I lived in Massachusetts and New Hampshire I would add dry gas in the winter to fuel before there was ethanol gas. Guess what dry gas is----ethanol. So the ethanol fuel you purchase today will absorb water and prevent the gas line from freezing.

I did notice that the master doesn't fit level with the standard holes. I just mounted it that way as it will give more clearance from the floor boards. I'm accustomed to motorcycles, and the front master cylinder is only level when the handle bars are full lock left. So long as the fluid level does...

I just went to Brassworks site. They list making cores. They may be able to re-core your radiator, or at least supply a core.

How does that keep the potatoe from leaking? That is the question, do the new gas cutoffs still need to be lapped in like they did years ago? Dan, I have a new one on my 26 which is different than the 24. It did not require lapping in the shutoff valve. If the ones for under tank are made by the sa...

Yes, clean the commutator, then read up on adjusting the third brush. If still not charging, send it to someone for a rebuild. Either Ron Patterson or Brent Mize. See the vendor information at the main club page.

I installed a 10 tooth pinion on the recommendation of a professional restorer whose opinion I respect. It has made climbing hills a little easier but really hasn't affected my driving otherwise. Top end is about the same, mileage unaffected, maybe a little less "stutter" going between low and high...

I just did an internet search for 6 volt lithium ion batteries. There are some, but only 6 amp hour. That isn't enough to spin your T.

At one time or another, we all need a new replacement for our 6 volt battery. Have you considered checking out the amperage reading on your ammeter while running? On average anp meter reading should be 8 to 10 amps positive. As lead acid batteries do get older, they will need distilled water added ...

Jack up the front end and see it you can turn it. Then you will know if there is somthing wrong. Turning a T when it’s sitting still isn’t easy to begin with. Even a 40’s or 50’s car without out power steering isn’t easy to turn without out moving to begin with. Are the front tires a little low in ...

Yes, you don't have power steering. Rolling should be easy. Trying to turn the wheel when not moving can over stress the components.

Go to Lang's web site and do an advanced search for "engine stand" they have what you need. http://www.modeltford.com/

entire brake lining. I will taper the leading edge as I do so, but do not think this is the centire cause . I'll work my way down until the issue is resolved. The brake spring tool is interesting, if you have a pic. If not, I may cobble something up on my own. The small phillips head shaft is worki...

My only comment is to make sure the dimples in the perches are to the rear for proper caster.

Since it is apart, I'd re-charge the magnets. You don't know how much longer they will hold a charge. That would require new screws. Be sure to get the correct ones for you ring gear. Even if you don't charge the magnets I would recommend replacement since it is apart.

Even with new bulbs filament bulbs the orientation is not correct from original production units. Bill Robinson and I found we had a left right shift in light instead of high and dim. We rotated the sockets 90 degrees to correct this issue. When we went to LED headlight bulbs, the orientation for th...

Any hydrolic shop can secure the fittings for you. Do a web search, or ask a farmer for one in your area.

vping wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:28 pm
Classic!! Wish I had the room!!!!!

Have the room, wish I had the money!

The early hubs are very thin at the outer bearing, removing the old cup and fitting the timkin cup needs to be done very carefully as it can stretch the hub and the brass cap will no longer screw on. There is a trick to re-size the outer threads where the cap goes on. Remove the bolt from a rear wh...

Also when I put them in I place I put masking tape over the key way so it doesn't nick the seal. In addition, some ultra black RTV on the outer edge that will hit the axle tube to help seal it in place. A piece of PVC pipe is excellent to push it into place. I do not trim the seal lip, it will confo...

These were made by a couple of our forum members a few years back. Work great!!!! IMG_3034.jpeg IMG_3035.jpeg Yes they work great but a bear to make. Time and materials made making many for sale not profitable for what people would pay for one. We made a few and just gave them away to friends. You ...

If the modern Layne Warford, the 85/140 would be correct. If the older type I can't answer. As to shifting, if you have good adjustment between the Ford and accessory brake then you can do as greenacres36 said. when going down the road, it is possible to shift without "clutching" if you take the loa...

Lang's has new regulators for 26/27 coupe and tudor If you are digging into the car to work on an old regulator, you might as well replace it.

With an updraft carb centrally located the number 1 and 4 would tend to be lean. This is even more exaggerated on a 6 cylinder engine. What you have is soot from a cold cylinder. Common on many Ts unless you run a 160 degree thermostat. I know guys will say Henry didn't use them, but he cut every ex...

Guys, thermo siphon works, but results in un-even cooling. The front of the engine will always be cooler than the back. I've installed a 160 degree thermostat and now the engine is constant temp front to back and no carbon build up on the plugs.

Moving arms and legs is a good sign. Here is to a full recovery!

You can also check with Birdhaven to see if they are making the Fun Projects switch. It is really easy to install and reliable.

I also had trouble fitting the outside mirrors. I ground the surface of the mirror that goes toward the door. I didn't grind the inside flat, but curved to match the door hinge. I wouldn't advise making any modification to the door hinge.

These seem to work well. The Ford headlight reflector isn't needed to focus the beam, it is all internal to the bulb. https://www.logolites.com/products/led- ... eadlights/

Remember, before attempting to work with the starter, remove the Bendix. Failure to do so will result in damage to the coil ring. As stated above, the seal kit is probably what is needed.

It is sometimes necessary to shim out the generator mount to get the correct generator gear to cam gear clearance. I had to use two gaskets on the generator mount to get proper gear engagement. Also check the condition of the generator gear so it doesn't do the same and damage the new timing gear.

Socket. If you can't reproduce the fault with it unplugged that is the culprit.

Moxie26 wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:31 pm
Thanks very much John, very appreciative ! And thank everyone for their comments also !

You are welcome.

I have a copy in PDF. Here it is.

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Moxie26 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:50 am
I'll take a good guess and say it's from the '26- '27 Coupe, or Fordor.

No, this is what that year is like. Click an illustration.
http://www.modeltford.com/item/50401X.aspx

In my opinion, you only need flaps for split rim applications. Rim liners should be fine for clinchers and wire wheels. I have many years of motorcycle experience and we use liners for spoke wheels and nothing with mag or tubeless wheels.

This is the best source I know. https://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/P-R.htm#paint1

Since it is a T, black always works.

That is excellent Tom. Hopefully the follow up will go well.

If you have a single coil, that is probably the culprit. Works when cold, fails when hot.

Disk brakes have basically no clearance between the pad and the rotor. The rubber seals on the pistons will retract the pads just enough so the wheel will spin freely with little to no drag. It is like this with cars and motorcycles as well. If the pads remain tight to the disk, the master is not re...

Snug just enough to eliminate any up and down movement of the spindle. That is you can't rock the wheel in and out from the top of the wheel Then lock with the bottom nut. As the bushings wear, you may need to occasionally make minor adjustment to the bolt.

If you are going total rebuild, splurge on a Scat crank. You won't regret that. Also a great time to charge all the magnets.

This tool works well to set initial timing. http://www.modeltford.com/item/3021SKLED.aspx

Original Smith wrote: ↑
Wed May 31, 2023 10:53 am
What's wrong with stock?

Grease holds up better under pressure. Oil is OK for spring shackles, but grease would provide better protection for the shackles and bushings.

I have mine on the upper hinge. Out of the way when walking around the car. Also I think it gives a better view to the rear.

If you can't find anyone on the forum that is plating, you could try Graves Plating in Florence AL. I had them do some chrome plating for me but I think they can do nickel also. https://gravesplating.com/

I run a 160 degree thermostat with no water pump with a Berg radiator. What I find is even temperature front to back of the engine. All my spark plugs stay clean. My friend doesn't run a thermostat and the rear of the engine is significantly hotter than the front, and he gets significant buildup on ...

Have you looked at shaft repair sleeves to take up the space? https://www.mcmaster.com/products/shaft-repair-sleeves/

This ammeter should do the trick for you. It is the same size and Model A, which is the same size as Model T. https://www.westach.com/product-page/copy-of-1-5-20a While that ammeter is the correct size the 30-30 amp range is for a Model A & others. But it will work & has lighting - could be a very ...

This ammeter should do the trick for you. It is the same size and Model A, which is the same size as Model T. https://www.westach.com/product-page/copy-of-1-5-20a

Someone posted the instructions for setting up a Regan VR, Use that procedure to adjust the third brush down to a much lower charge rate. 20 amps will cook the generator. My question is, do you have one of the small repro ammeters for a 26/27, or one of the large ammeters from an older model. The re...

I am using an original switch with a solenoid. My position is the original switch is old, and carrying high current is not good for longevity. So my original switch just carries enough current to trigger the solenoid and the solenoid carries the high current. If the solenoid fails on a tour, I can c...

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John.Zibell wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:28 am
To prevent leaks I use clear RTV on my hose connections. It seals the connection and prevents corrosion. When you want to remove the hose simply twist and it comes right off.
Do you put the rtv inside the hose?

on the part the hose goes over.

Adjusting the third brush is still necessary with a VR. Here are the instructions

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To prevent leaks I use clear RTV on my hose connections. It seals the connection and prevents corrosion. When you want to remove the hose simply twist and it comes right off.

Gear lash is critical for quietest operation, and issues with cams and cam bearings, cam and crankshaft end play, and loose main bearings will contribute to noise. Very true. I'm running a bronze gear with a generator. Had to use an extra gasket under the generator bracket to get an acceptable gear...

I don't see the image you posted. If a new key, it may be a little wide. A few strokes of a hand file should take care of it. You still want a snug fit.

Contact Ben Martin. His information is in this thread. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=32324&p=248973&hili ... in#p248973

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