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Despite her best efforts, while she was watching the caravan pass and not even paying that much attention to the barking, Ma Pucker had a fresh pot of dots frying on the range. While a "Watched Pot Seldom Explodes" a neglected one is likely too. DotzKchn.jpg These had been promised to Joe and set th...

There certainly were some other makes. Hudson and Overland were among them. I've always be partial to Mercer.

I have been patient and working on some other frustrating projects while the oil does it's job. However I notice a few minutes ago that the lower bushing is turning with the spindle bolt. The alternative may be to cut the bolts at the bushing flange to save the axle and the spindles. Patience lost f...

The EMF guys and their rivals have a lot of fun that way too.

Good job Dan. The best identifying feature is is the radiator shape which doesn't show from that angle. stddDayt.jpg Here are some more to peruse. http://jacques-leretrait.blogspot.com/2014/12/voitures-des-usa-stoddard-manufacturing.html The Lundells from Boise drove one on the Labor Days tours to M...

Yes, you can see from the top picture the nut is completely off.
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How quick we forget. I have purchased several of the ones you show with the brass twist oilers. My mind went back to what I bought back in the '60s. I still have grease cups in them. They may have been from J. C. Whitney. It seemed the bushings wore quickly in them. By the way, the spindle bolts now...

The car would almost certainly be in the "Standard Catalog of American Cars 1805 to 1942". Beverly Rae Kimes and Henry Austin Clark spent years compiling it. I don't think they left out much. At 1536 pages and 5000 photos it is a little difficult to find a particular car without a name to start with...

Here you go. NOS 1939-47 Ford TRUCK front hub grease caps PAIR 91T-1139 A-6- on Ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-1939-47-Fo ... 2943197009

I believe that is one of the versions of a front hub dust cover sometime between 1932 and 1955. also called grease cap.
Perhaps AA trucks had external threads too.

We have had this discussion many times in the past and will no doubt continue to in the future. I have enjoyed seeing the photos and hearing the differing opinions. People will do what they decide is attractive, most logical or precisely original. And we will look at these cars with our own prejudic...

I suspect the description refers to the latch piece. The catch that mounts on the box itself sort of hinges to catch it.

With the hundreds of small companies making cars that didn't survive there is bound to be some we won't recognize. The cowl even looks European but the lamps do not. These posts do serve to test our resources and broaden our knowledge.
And in Rexburg!
Rich

"Louis Charles Joseph Blériot .... was a French aviator, inventor, and engineer. He developed the first practical headlamp for cars and established a profitable business manufacturing them, using much of the money he made to finance his attempts to build a successful aircraft." - Wikipedia. Dave Ric...

VanPinksberg took great pride in saying "I know Joe" and "the Wino Joe I know" They shared a tent while working the claxberry infestation before either became famous. One night a heavy rain floated them down to Tinklers Town. Neither woke up until the whistle sounded. What a surprise that must have ...

What fun. Those V-8s can be pretty sweet.
Rich

For a time the spindle bolts came with a threaded end and a zerk. I have some spindle bolts drilled for grease fittings half way down the body. This suggests the problem occurred back in the day. Mine have the flip top oiler that was prevalent in the 20s. After coaxing many spindle bolts out of axle...

Harry Stutz built cars. The most famous one was the Stutz Bearcat. It was light and had a powerful engine. Many won races back in the day. Stutz.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stutz_Bearcat This Stutz Racer appeared on a HCCA Tour in Sun Valley, ID in 1975. It had raced at Indianapolis. These mad...

That's a stumper. I don't see anything like it where I usually look. Imperial comes close.
The full elliptical front springs, the long hood, the curve in the rear fender at the running board and that cowl are key features.
If the right guy sees this we will know.
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Rich

The more you learn the more you know
The more you know the more you forget
The more you forget the less you know.
On the other hand
The less learn the less you know
The less you know the less you forget
The less you forget the more you know.
This is just one of the rules that guides me.

Tragedy struck when little Alisha Turnwhickle accidently fell into the tailings pile on Spuzzum Creek. Scrapes and abrasions cover much of the child and except for the Gilderfluke Ligature-o-matic she would have suffered certain death. alisha.jpg Here we see her a number of days after her Birthday a...

I is difficult to put paint on that beautiful wood. I too have thought how beautiful natural wheels would look. Someone mentioned the wonderful flash of each painted spoke reflecting the sun as the wheel turns. The satisfaction of doing what was done originally has kept me painting my wheels. I have...

Part of my surprise was that this happened many years later. I would have thought wear would have made everything looser. Perhaps moisture has gotten in their and rust is part of the culprit.
Rich

We often interpret the written word differently than it was intended. In face to face conversations we can have a better sense of the intent. I'm afraid we have lost many generous contributors from criticisms of what they said. I hope we can take helpful and interesting insights without finding faul...

I should add that the steering worked fine for 8 years. Oiling more frequently might have averted this problem.
Gene, writing about what we don't know would undoubtedly require some research wouldn't it?

After 50 some years I think I have some knowledge of the Model T. I know some who have learned everything there is to know. However there are always surprises along the way. KngPn.jpg In this case, the steering on the Coupe has gotten harder. I thought it might be just old age. After jacking both si...

Now there's a good looking Packard Truck with a load of suds. Maybe He's headed for Ernie's.

http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2011/07 ... rucks.html

Few can still remember before the introduction of dots to mark the spot. Spots were used in their stead and often confused with smudges or blotches. It can readily be seen that the dot has a clean edge reducing drag and wind resistance. The pleasing appearance also is an benefit. I think it was Sizz...

T handle! I was on the wrong track as I often am. Sorry. Maybe I should be in the ejection seat

I have become obsessed by the toggle switch though.
Thanks for the comments.
Rich

Thanks Stan. I can almost read it now. Anyone have some information on it?
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Rich

I spent some time looking for information on the above switch. I couldn't find anything about it. There is lettering or a logo but not clear enough to read. If anyone knows what that is or could take a better photo at the auction I would certainly appreciate it. It's one of those puzzles that would ...

It is intriguing. The radiator must not be hot.

Thanks for the Holbrook info. I don't remember hearing about it. It might be fun to poke around there.
Rich

What a mind boggling question Darel. I don't know where to start or stop.

I would at least put water in it and see how bad it is. One of the best early radiators I have looked bad and was $15 at a swap meet. You never know.
Rich

Gosh! she looks like a nice girl who would like a ride in a Model T.

Colin, I'm thinking it may be a type of circuit breaker. You press down to complete the circuit. If you get an overload it trips and cuts power. Better than a fuse.
Rich

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Holbrook? Do you think it might be Idaho? Arizona? Utah? New Mexico? They all had one. "Groceries, Hardware, Shoes and Dry Goods.
Great photo and nice use of the new TT chassis. Those of you who use your Ts to pick up feed and such must really identify with this.
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Rich

The fascinating aspect of all this was that the oil was essential to Kalamity Dick's Tri-figual kaspifluke. The meshing required ultra-slippery service to function at the mock momentum range. OyleOfis.jpg While Dick was not affiliated with the league itself, several of the team members were employed...

I spent 5 minutes in the shop and realized it wasn't as nice as it was yesterday. Only 40°. Maybe later.
Isn't it nice to have options?

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Hi Jonah. I googled "1926 1927 model t touring "Windsor Maroon". These 4 different cars came up. They were described as Burgundy but as similar as they are I believe they were striving towards Windsor Maroon. The one in the upper left was from: https://www.volocars.com/auto-sales/vehicles/14649/1927...

Thanks Stan. The video was a treat not to mention the great music. I know many that can't make the auction and are pleased to see those items and the beautiful Montana area. John, The flyer says "North & East of Shelby, Mt 40 miles or 25 miles North of Galata..." That would be close to the Canadian ...

Yes, the battery storage below the frame would suggest that. Or perhaps it runs on milk.

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The auction flyer has photos including some of these. Some folks have had trouble accessing them.
http://www.frontrangeauctions.com/

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This is the Speedster in the upcoming Montana auction. I know it is of interest to Speedster guys and some would like to see these. SpdstrMT9.jpg SpdstrMT11.jpg SpdstrMT1.jpg SpdstrMT5.jpg I asked the auctioneer to send them to me so we could share them. I have no connection with the sale. He felt t...

Thanks Stan. I appreciate this very much.
Rich
https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20487

I always love seeing the Stanley Steamers. Today they are lost to the carpet cleaner.
Great photos!
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Rich

Yes, even with the additional oil it was essentially the same. Some of that sediment has washed up on the beach if the photo is accurate. You may recognize Chatsworth Lake standing next to the fellow wearing the top had. It was his great great grandfather that Chugwater Lake was named for. One cauti...

I didn't mean to be a pest Stan. You must be very busy. With all the speedster guys on the forum there are many who would enjoy seeing more detail. It also might help get some bidders interested. Also I have an interest in knowing more about the recent history of it. Do what you need to do. Best wis...

Hi Kevan. I'm sure someone on the forum knows the car. Not as many members post here these days. When we talked earlier about the car I mentioned they all had that red pin stripe from the factory. Looking at ones on the internet I see that not many have that added. It should be a good identifier. I ...

That fabrication was nicely done.
Thanks for letting us see it.
Rich

The second best seller was ceiling wax. Blue food was thought to be a myth from the 17th century but many still don't eat it. After the head amputation Van Briggle teamed up with Table Top Joe, the man without a body. He "had trouble with the pedals But ... had a strong left hand And ... could play ...

Great subject Larry. My 1907 Buick specs describe the body as a Turtle back.

https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=88491&t=1

That's a great question David. I'll bet we could post a whole discussion on that.
Rich

Maybe??? I don't really know Internationals. I found these '29s and the orange one is a '30. There are several differences in models. You can see the wheels and bumpers are similar. Some have the beads in the door although a different placement. Some don't have. Some have a shorter bunch of louvers ...

I was in high school 57 years ago when a good friend told me about a 1925 T Roadster at his Grandfather's neighbor's. It was complete but all rusty. The motor was out and the windshield had been removed but was there. It had the original plate glass. The cost was $75 in 1964 and mom was horrified at...

Thanks for that Evan. I watch these for some of the nice things he captures. After restoring several car there are things I would do differently but the details of a '23 Fordor are something that are hard to find pictures of. I too hope we are catching the imagination of some youngsters and potentia...

Perhaps they are just very busy. Did you get my Emails about additional photos of the Speedster?
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Rich

That's a beautiful setting for that great car. Looks terrific.
Thanks for sharing the photos and report.
Rich

As if we needed more.

One of the more beguiling parts of the Simoniz story is the acquiring of it's name. It was, of course, Simon Van Briggle who developed the tallow for his oboe. As a child he was nicknamed "Simon-Eyes" referring to his peepers by his classmates. The alias stuck into his adult years. The highschool ye...

For the firewall brackets you could make an L shaped bracket that would mount to the 2 holes in the side of the frame It could bend over the top of the frame where the other 2 holes should be. Countersinking for flat head screws could then be used to mount the brackets you have. The only problem is ...

My other guess would have been a Lozier. It had a squarish hood and similar look.

http://www.conceptcarz.com/z22690/Lozier-Model-51.aspx

Thanks Wayne. Here is a 12 that resembles it.

And thanks for the photo Rich.

WllcCrcs.jpg It's interesting what we can find sometimes. "The March 12th Billboard stated, in reference to the Wallace Greater Shows: "The No. 2 advance wagon is out of the paint shop. It is a 1 ˝ on truck with heavy carved mirrors. The show will use No. 1 and No. 2 trucks for the advance. Additio...

I would be ecstatic to own any of the lettered cars before the 'T' or an open '32. I had a Model A and a 1947 Tudor. I still have a '35 Panel Delivery, a '65 F100 and a '65 Mustang. The T's are as great as any of them.
Rich

It certainly shows the original latches and that multi-gear window regulator well.

I like the looks of it. Sometimes a big splash of brass is too much. It fits the era fine.
Rich

The guy in Montana knows a heck of a lot more about carburetors than I do. I found these pictures today. The Buick didn't have it's turtle deck when I got it. Therefore there was no hardware for it. A fellow in El Cajon was kind enough to take one of his hinges off and put it on a copy machine. Some...

Milksky Flanrodd always protested the serenading of the Quibbles during the moss welching season. He claimed it made them too complacent and even surly. Zooooo.jpg Having come from where they did certainly entitled them to their dispositions but the locals deserved their platitudes as well. The Chro...

I don't know exactly when the 18B came out. "Delco-Remy got into the horn business in 1924 with the purchase of the Klaxon Horn Company in Newark NJ". Since Delco-Remy was a "Divsion of General Motors" Ford wouldn't have put in on. Any horn could have been used to replace the Ford horn back then. I ...

That is wonderful. The illustrations and artwork are fantastic.
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Rich

It's always fun to see new things. What is this world coming to?
I'm going to stick to a bucket of water and some 80 grit wet-or-dry sand paper. And a good radio.
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Rich

It apparently is a new truck as the hood is very shiny. Here is a layout of the "Medium" Baker Electric Model U Truck chassis. They made a Model X Delivery, a Model O Light Truck and a Model CC Heavy Truck also. This is from a 1913 catalog. Bakerx1.jpg This illustration shows the drive. Bakerx2.jpg

The spotlight was essential for spotting Quibbles at night. Here we see later versions at the hunting camp (on our left) and the present day version. High speed running has necessitated the removal of said illuminator. rnaboot.jpg Hootenanny deflector and spiroflagon have also been removed. Oh yes, ...

Various forms were noted in the perfection of the Raceabout. I find it delightful that the last metamorphosis is currently coming to auction in Montana soon.
I'm not sure any of the versions included a windshield.
Rich

I would think that Mace Maggots sort of defeat the whole purpose. Cushioning the blow and perhaps soothing the injury.

I don't recall the odor. Perhaps it was overpowered by the limburger.

I see a 1917 or later T and WWI uniforms. This could be the end of the War or after. The mud and running board brace tell a bit of a story.
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It really was stuck Mark. That was last September. Fast forward to April. The nice weather plus a guy wanting me to sell him the Panel got me out and working on the brakes. I have nearly all the parts for the mechanical brakes. Yes I know they are horrible. I was missing one front operating pin (rod...

The rocket assembly team included Gilbert Larkvonnet and the Klampsmith twins. Parts were glued together with a mucilaginous salina developed by KD at the cusping plant and spring clamps.

Gilbert had previously been occupied at the Marina.

Good job Mark and Tim. My supplier has them but has a minimum order. How many and what length do you need. I have this many 1/2" long and twice that many 1/4" long.
Rich

That is enlightening to see. How many delightful things are out there we will never know about.
Thanks for this one.
Rich

That is a difficult bracket to visualize. I believe you are correct and it is the front pillar bracket for a '26-'27 Fordor.
I got these photos from a post by Ray Elkins, April 08, 2009.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/87573.html

Luke is right. This tells more if you want to read it. 1924 Election
https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/138750

That is the more familiar one. I wonder how it compares with the car based gear ratio. The chain drive would have quite a reduction.
Rich

Neat post card.
I find it interesting that the rear fenders are flat, '15-'16 and the tail light is all brass E&J. That would be '13 or earlier.
Not that it matters.

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Rich

Nice Woody Jay! It's good to hear from you.
Rich

Interesting video. Wikipedia tells me "helical-shaped rollers made from flat spring steel were more flexible than solid-cylinder rollers". Years ago I thought they were just grooves in the roller until I found grease inside. I made rollers from drill rod for my Buick when I couldn't find the Hyatts....

These are probably too big too. Marker lights "approximately 2 1/8 inches" but perhaps on the right track. Green and Amber.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/uHwAAOSw ... -l1600.jpg

Old school motorcycle or turn signal lens.
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I'm not sure if it is a Knox. I found these Knox photos. The water cooled ones have a shorter radiator. It could be a different model.

I'll bet Charley Shaver could have told us.
Rich

I found the pictures on the link very interesting. I realize that some folks don't want a lot of commercial ads to flood this site but we miss out on some wonderful pictures and opportunities because of it. If we could see more of those items I would be pleased. Perhaps some neutral party could post...

Well I'm very happy for you Norman. It looks much better and must feel better.
I think I'll wait for a better excuse.
Good to hear from you.
Rich

This is the upholstery in a 1909 T Touring car. It certainly looks good to my eyes and much of it may be original.
Rich

Life is a Cabriolet Old Chum. At one point McWormser was promoted from Lieutenant to Lieuelevenant according to Victor Borge.
40% by volume can yield up to 52.6 Mpg if not more or less and a pacific gravity of a similar dentistry.

The lower portion of this thread has quite a bit of discussion about Beaudette Bodies.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/7861.html

Have you seen these?
http://mtfctulsa.com/Tech/cam_bearings.htm
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/41 ... 1416772968
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/25 ... 1342157696

You didn't waste any time. It's already polished. That looks great. I'm glad it didn't break.
Rich

McWormser expressed his thanks to Kalamity Dick for much of the equipment and paraphernalia he contributed to the cause.
His staff car is on display at the Institute's General Transportation Annex.

You have made my day again.
Some of these have fantastic composition. Others have surprises like a hubcap for a radiator cap, a broken fender and funny glasses.
Thanks again.
Rich

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