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by VowellArt
Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:19 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1923 Wood Firewall Assembly***
Replies: 9
Views: 554

Re: ***1919-1923 Wood Firewall Assembly***

Small correction to some lines that were in the wrong place and or not completed. 1919-1923FirewallAssembly-EngineSide2.jpg I haven't gotten round to the metal Firewalls yet, concentrating on all the wood ones first (and there are a bunch of those). But I can if I had pictures of one. The Low Cowl ...
by VowellArt
Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:12 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1923 Wood Firewall Assembly***
Replies: 9
Views: 554

Re: ***1919-1923 Wood Firewall Assembly***

Ok, made some changes, you're right the Firewall brackets should be on the engine side and not on the interior side. Don Lang caught it and I couldn't believe I missed it entirely, anyhoo, also forgot to add the Dash Choke Rod and had to change where the Dash Wiring Loom comes through the Firewall....
by VowellArt
Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:37 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1923 Wood Firewall Assembly***
Replies: 9
Views: 554

***1919-1923 Wood Firewall Assembly***

Running out of assemblies to do, so I thought I'd start in on putting the car chassis together assemblies, of course starting with mine (it's the one I know the best). Sooo, I'm starting with the Wood Firewall and since my car is a 22 and it is my understanding that the Low Cowl Wood Firewall ran c...
by VowellArt
Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:16 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Original material to back interior cloth?
Replies: 12
Views: 586

Re: Original material to back interior cloth?

The ones I've seen looked to be some sort of heavy cardboard. Although a modern plasticized cardboard, might work better especially against moisture, because the ones I've seen (with the cardboard) were rather warped, probably due to either outright water damage or moisture trapped with in the door...
by VowellArt
Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:32 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1912 Holley 4550 Carburetor (3 screw) Assembly***
Replies: 0
Views: 152

***1912 Holley 4550 Carburetor (3 screw) Assembly***

1912-HolleyH1-4550-3Screw-2.jpg Since the 4550 was made between the years of 1911 and 1912, it seems obvious that the 1912 version had to be a "New and Improved" carburetor...in that Holley went from the "2 screw" cover to a "3 screw" cover much like the later Holley G's. Although I couldn't find a...
by VowellArt
Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:47 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1912 Holley H1 4550 (2 Screw) Assembly***
Replies: 8
Views: 427

Re: ***1912 Holley H1 4550 (2 Screw) Assembly***

1912-Holley-H1-4550-2Screw-2.jpg
Small change....it was brought to my attention that 4550 was built between the years of 1911-1912.
This was probably the 1911 version, the 1912 version would then be the 3 screw cover.
by VowellArt
Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:56 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1912 Holley H1 4550 (2 Screw) Assembly***
Replies: 8
Views: 427

Re: ***1912 Holley H1 4550 (2 Screw) Assembly***

1912-Holley-H1-4550-2Screw-2.jpg
Corey, if you think of anything else let me know....you mentioned an o-ring under the cap....what size is it, so I can add that too.
by VowellArt
Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:57 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1912 Holley H1 4550 (2 Screw) Assembly***
Replies: 8
Views: 427

Re: ***1912 Holley H1 4550 (2 Screw) Assembly***

Ahhh, Corey, do you have the diameter of that "rope" gasket?, could it possibly be fudged with cording if the diameter isn't too of the wall. Cording has a braided exterior and a woven core. Used to grease soak it and use it in my Model A's water pump for packing. It wore better than the vendor stu...
by VowellArt
Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:35 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1912 Holley H1 4550 (2 Screw) Assembly***
Replies: 8
Views: 427

***1912 Holley H1 4550 (2 Screw) Assembly***

1912-1913HolleyH1-2Screw-2.jpg Does anybody know what the part number for the bowl gasket is (I gave it 4477, but I've no idea if that's correct or not)? It isn't listed in the factory pages, so I thought maybe it's the same one as the NH, would really like to know what fits this bowl, so I can put...
by VowellArt
Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:54 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Bronze Kingston L4
Replies: 7
Views: 542

Re: Bronze Kingston L4

One other thing, if you've never replaced the cork bumper (6171C), you should. That's what gives you the correct max opening for the low speed flap. it is under that top brass screw on the throttle side. One thing that puzzles me though, why use a Kingston L-4 on a Speedster? One of the throatier H...
by VowellArt
Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:25 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1913-1914 Holley 4450 "2 Screw" Carburetor Assembly
Replies: 3
Views: 231

Re: 1913-1914 Holley 4450 "2 Screw" Carburetor Assembly

The corrections.

1913-1914Holley-4450-2-Screw-B.jpg

Corey, do you think that the Holley G's gasket set would fit the 2 screw? Just wondering, if I should include that P/N or not.
by VowellArt
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1913-1914 Holley 4450 "2 Screw" Carburetor Assembly
Replies: 3
Views: 231

1913-1914 Holley 4450 "2 Screw" Carburetor Assembly

In Bruce's Encyclopedia, he lists this carburetor as 1912-1914 Holley 4450 (2 screw), but in the page directly preceding this assembly, he shows Fords 1912 Holley 4450 (which is also a 2 screw) carburetor, but with the body that from the pictures I've been sent is identified as the H1 (which I'm al...
by VowellArt
Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:45 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Bronze Kingston L4
Replies: 7
Views: 542

Re: Bronze Kingston L4

They're in the Gallery, under VowellArt

They can also be found from the main page, under "Resources", "Drawings", which contains all of my drawings....so far. ;)
by VowellArt
Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Bronze Kingston L4
Replies: 7
Views: 542

Re: Bronze Kingston L4

This is the assembly drawing of a brass bodied Kingston L-4. LangsL-4-BW.jpg My Kingston L-4....it's what started me on my project of drawing the whole bloody car, mainly because nobody has ever done it before! The dimension for the bowl nut differences are; the top one is for the brass body and th...
by VowellArt
Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:23 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Float valve needle for Holley 2 Screw
Replies: 9
Views: 491

Re: Float valve needle for Holley 2 Screw

Thanks guys, these are great, now I can put the Model S (2 screw) to bed and the H1 sometime in the next 2 weeks or so (takes time to look up and put both the vendor part numbers and the factor part numbers and change dates on two drawings). ;)
by VowellArt
Thu Oct 12, 2023 10:17 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Float valve needle for Holley 2 Screw
Replies: 9
Views: 491

Re: Float valve needle for Holley 2 Screw

Corey.....Hmmm, it looks like it is triangular....the outside are flat with a rounded center and yes I think you're correct about it being an original...the picture from the parts book was a kind of fuzzy, but that tab on the back of the valve, is pretty much flared like this one is. Allan, you're ...
by VowellArt
Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:20 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Float valve needle for Holley 2 Screw
Replies: 9
Views: 491

Float valve needle for Holley 2 Screw

Ok, searching through my pictures of the 2 screw that I was sent, I can't find one pic of the float valve needle. So, are the triangular or square? I know they've got a tail on the end that plays against the float lever, I just need to know what the valve needle looks like. Also in this same vane, ...
by VowellArt
Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:57 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Any experience with Kingston "Y" 4-ball carburetor?
Replies: 4
Views: 279

Re: Any experience with Kingston "Y" 4-ball carburetor?

No, but I would dearly love to see pictures of it both assembled and apart! When you do restore it, take plenty of pictures of both the exterior and it's interior parts and post them here. I did the 5 ball Kingston a few years back, but not the 4 ball. I would really like to see the insides of one ...
by VowellArt
Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:14 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1909 buffalo carb pictures for Vowell Art
Replies: 6
Views: 345

Re: 1909 buffalo carb pictures for Vowell Art

Kim, I recently sent you a missive saying I hadn't seen your Buffalo Posting....I found it, so please disregard that PM. This carburetor looks like it will be fun (another forward facing side draft carb....and here I thought only racing carburetors were built that way). Although I'm still a bit ske...
by VowellArt
Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:06 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S
Replies: 43
Views: 1852

Re: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S

Jim, that looks like a Holley S 2 screw....does it have a data plate that tells you the model number?
by VowellArt
Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:00 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S
Replies: 43
Views: 1852

Re: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S

Michael, that looks an awful lot like a Gross Jet, only these days they've got a stainless ball, never seen one with a glass one before. Not so sure they'd work very well with an under the seat tank though. They need fuel pressure to close, so they work really well in 26-27 Model T's with cowl tank...
by VowellArt
Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:57 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S
Replies: 43
Views: 1852

Re: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S

Jim, no I haven't done a Holley 4550 yet (I don't think), anyhoo, the Holley G 6040 1914-1918 non electric cars, I've drawn. Apparently there are quite a few Holley's I didn't know about, so I'm catching up as quick as I can. HolleyG-6040-14-18.jpg But if you've got another Holley, carb, please tak...
by VowellArt
Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:32 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Decal block letter suggestions for my running board Tourists Kitchenette
Replies: 34
Views: 2027

Re: Decal block letter suggestions for my running board Tourists Kitchenette

Matt, I just thought of something concerning your unit....what kind of paint did they used to paint over that text? If is some sort of lacquer, it may be possible to remove it without harming the text underneath. But that also depends upon what that text is too. If the Text was applied as a varnish...
by VowellArt
Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:01 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Decal block letter suggestions for my running board Tourists Kitchenette
Replies: 34
Views: 2027

Re: Decal block letter suggestions for my running board Tourists Kitchenette

Matt, okay so ICE WATER is 1" (72 pt) and the rest are 3/4" (54 pt)? Ummm, from what I can see, it looks to be all of the drawers may well be 3/4" (54pt), but the 1" (72pt) Is ICE BOX , not ICE WATER (of course if you want ICE WATER that size too, it's your choice). Although I'm not quite sure that...
by VowellArt
Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Help needed to identify and repair juice brake system
Replies: 10
Views: 666

Re: Help needed to identify and repair juice brake system

I've seen a couple of these semi modern types of hydraulic brake systems for Model T. I think I understand why your friend wasn't impressed with their performance. For some unknown reason, folks seem to think that the T's braking system is flawed (the joke being, step on the brake pedal and the car...
by VowellArt
Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:40 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: What have you done to your Model T in August?
Replies: 44
Views: 3803

Re: What have you done to your Model T in August?

Since it's been too hot to work in the garage on it....I stare at it a lot! :lol:
by VowellArt
Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:17 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Decal block letter suggestions for my running board Tourists Kitchenette
Replies: 34
Views: 2027

Re: Decal block letter suggestions for my running board Tourists Kitchenette

Your text is known as Gothic No13 BT in the "True Type" font case. It's a condensed font, but needs a bit of modification for the middle of the E and the lower arm of the F and the letters have to be outlined not solid. These were probably a "Varnish Transfer" like you see on Piano Fallboards. They...
by VowellArt
Thu Aug 17, 2023 6:26 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S
Replies: 43
Views: 1852

Re: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S

One more question... Michael (or anyone for that matter)....do you double gasket the bottom of the carburetor bowl (one inside between the bowl and the carburetor body post and one on the outside of the bowl under the nut? I found I had to do that on my Kingston L-4 to keep it from dribbling fuel o...
by VowellArt
Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:08 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S
Replies: 43
Views: 1852

Re: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S

Kim, you have a buffalo? Great, that was the one I thought I'd never see (is it taken apart? Need to see the internal parts). Michael, that's exactly the same thing I've said to many of my friends who think that the Hot Air Pipe is just something in the way. One time I forgot to put mine back on an...
by VowellArt
Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:30 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S
Replies: 43
Views: 1852

Re: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S

Michael, woo good pictures (shiny little devil), what's under the little cover with the hex bolt on top? Is that access to the float valve like on the H1?
by VowellArt
Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:01 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S
Replies: 43
Views: 1852

Re: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S

Corey, are those 90º bends on the retaining clip on the ends and do they fit into some hole or groove on the Venturi? Like the above picture?
by VowellArt
Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:28 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S
Replies: 43
Views: 1852

Re: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S

Thanks guys, but I'd rather draw the Model T than what I used to work on (stuff that went boom and or released toxic gas usually in foreign countries), as a rule, Model T's don't explode, which makes them waaay more fun to draw. But from an engineering standpoint are almost as intricate and devilis...
by VowellArt
Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:29 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S
Replies: 43
Views: 1852

Re: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S

Oh my gosh yes! I need all of these! Yes Rich , this is exactly what I was asking about....seems the patent drawings had is almost right, theirs was a might wider though, but the one in your picture makes more sense for practical application. Steve , I've looked at Bruce's pictures, have his encycl...
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:18 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S
Replies: 43
Views: 1852

Looking for pictures of Holley Carburtors from 1911-1912 Holley H1 and the 1913 Holley Model S

Okay, what I need is a view looking in through the choke side of this carburetor. I've got lots of side and top views, and some really nice parts views as well. But what I need to see is the interior band that the choke shaft passes through...I'm just wondering if it is there or not, because the pa...
by VowellArt
Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:13 pm
Forum: VowellArt
Topic: Thank You
Replies: 3
Views: 6175

Re: Thank You

Mopar_man Graphic Arts and Technical Arts are two completely different things. Graphic Arts are what you see just about everywhere from billboards to food packaging. Technical Arts, are more defined and usually only seen in Repair Manuals, Parts Manuals and Assembly Instructions of everything from ...
by VowellArt
Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:45 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: '17 touring Car Top Irons
Replies: 3
Views: 322

Re: '17 touring Car Top Irons

My car is an early 1922 Touring, but the tops were the same from 1917-early 1922. This is the Front bow position although your front irons will look a bit differently.
by VowellArt
Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:02 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1926-1927 Snubbing Units, a Genuine Ford Approved Accessory for Model T***
Replies: 3
Views: 673

Re: ***1926-1927 Snubbing Units, a Genuine Ford Approved Accessory for Model T***

Jim, I am not subscribed to it, so I thought it was a simi annual rag. Bi-monthly huh? Okay I'll make a note of that, thanks. :)
by VowellArt
Sat Mar 18, 2023 4:23 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1926-1927 Snubbing Units, a Genuine Ford Approved Accessory for Model T***
Replies: 3
Views: 673

***1926-1927 Snubbing Units, a Genuine Ford Approved Accessory for Model T***

I promised Jim Mahaffey I wouldn't post these until after his articles on Model T Ford Snubbers for 1926-1927 close cars finished its run in Model T Times (MTFCI semi annual publication), the last issue of that was supposed to hit about January (I think), so I thought I'd go ahead and post these he...
by VowellArt
Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:39 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Early frame bracket bolts and nuts
Replies: 6
Views: 854

Re: Early frame bracket bolts and nuts

Ya know, there is a possibility that he has already checked that source and contrary to the widespread and (very popular) belief that all the mysteries are available in the archives and have every bloody little thing from 1909, 1927 on these cars....they don't! Especially on something so common as ...
by VowellArt
Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:23 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1909 ?
Replies: 36
Views: 2721

Re: 1909 ?

The spokes are wrong for 1909, there should be "tear drop" shaped at the top, these are thick and "oval" at the top like the 1911's.
by VowellArt
Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:07 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Kingston B-1 Gasifier
Replies: 4
Views: 818

Re: Kingston B-1 Gasifier

I would like to try it instead of my Holley Vaporizer. [/size] They're far superior to anything Holley ever built. The only reason Ford went more with the Holley's was because they were cheap to manufacture (and thus cost less, than a Kingston), plus they've no parts to wear out like that stupid he...
by VowellArt
Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Halloween Pix
Replies: 15
Views: 1878

Re: Halloween Pix

Model T.jpg I know this a bit far past Halloween, but I don't get on here much, so I thought I'd add my Hallow's nights worth too. I park my car out on the driveway every Samhain (Gaelic word and pronounced Sow-Wynn) Halloween and invite everybody who comes by (kids included) the opportunity to sit...
by VowellArt
Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:45 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1916-1918 Wheat Gluten/Asbestos Coil Assembly***
Replies: 5
Views: 889

***1916-1918 Wheat Gluten/Asbestos Coil Assembly***

Contrary to popular belief, this coil was produced between late 1916-1918 and replaced the brass top coil, mainly due to WWI where brass was a strategic material for the war effort. So, the Ford Motor company came up with a substance that was not considered "strategic" in any way. Wheat Gluten. But...
by VowellArt
Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:47 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Model T camping equipment
Replies: 28
Views: 7861

Re: Model T camping equipment

I don't know, myself I'd prefer one of these, but since I'd have to probably build it on a car, that means I'd have to buy a chassis and build it up from there....of course my wife my have other ideas about that, but one of these days I'm going to try it all the same. It carries 100 gallons of fres...
by VowellArt
Wed Aug 31, 2022 4:19 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1915-1916 Ford/KW Ignition Coil Assembly***
Replies: 8
Views: 1325

Re: ***1915-1916 Ford/KW Ignition Coil Assembly***

Whoa, a transparent coil, probably a demonstration unit....one that looks like the kind you'd show to prospective buyers to show them how the coil works or is more reliable than the previous coil model was. This one looks like one of the later types and represents the basic wood coil box. This is t...
by VowellArt
Wed Aug 31, 2022 3:45 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1915-1916 Ford/KW Ignition Coil Assembly***
Replies: 8
Views: 1325

Re: ***1915-1916 Ford/KW Ignition Coil Assembly***

Ok Ron, how about this....

1913-1916-Coil-Assembly2.jpg
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:40 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1915-1916 Ford/KW Ignition Coil Assembly***
Replies: 8
Views: 1325

Re: ***1915-1916 Ford/KW Ignition Coil Assembly***

Larry from Bruce's book (Encyclopedia of the Model T), KW made the 6 screw top and Ford changed it to 4 screws in 1916 (probably Henry saved a couple of penny's that way)....also according to Bruce, this coil is actually a Late 1913 thru late 1915, because in 1916 the 4 screw top (Ford) was widely ...
by VowellArt
Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:50 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1915-1916 Ford/KW Ignition Coil Assembly***
Replies: 8
Views: 1325

***1915-1916 Ford/KW Ignition Coil Assembly***

Ok, I'm not sure of what the year span is for this style coil, I took a stab at it because Steve Jelf showed me a set of coils he got from Ron Patterson for his 15 Runabout. So, I figured if Ron sent these, then these were probably correct for 1915, but they may also be correct for other early cars...
by VowellArt
Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:36 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1915-1916 Firewall Question***
Replies: 7
Views: 1390

Re: ***1915-1916 Firewall Question***

I was able to post the full size drawing on Face Book and I posted it the groups I usually post to too. Long Beach, Model T Ford Club of FB, Southern Nevada, Southern Utah, Model T Enthusiast, and the MTFCI Face Book group. I've also found the T factory number and the vendor part number too. And I ...
by VowellArt
Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:44 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1915-1916 Firewall Question***
Replies: 7
Views: 1390

Re: ***1915-1916 Firewall Question***

Allan, both Steve and I came to the same conclusion about the thickness of the core vs the veneers. But the Forum won't allow me to post this drawing here due to it's size (13.98 mb at full size). The other thing I realized was that this drawing is not a construction drawing....it is a machine set ...
by VowellArt
Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:21 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1915-1916 Firewall Question***
Replies: 7
Views: 1390

Re: ***1915-1916 Firewall Question***

Mark, I drew this full size...but the forum won't allow anything over 2.81mb at 150 dpi. My original drawing is 300 dpi at 9.85mb. If you want I can send it to you via your email, but just can't here on the forum....I can also post it on FB, if you think that would be easier to get too. Steve Jelf ...
by VowellArt
Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:34 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1915-1916 Firewall Question***
Replies: 7
Views: 1390

***1915-1916 Firewall Question***

Ok, got a question on this drawing....you'll note that the radius 16 7/64" has no dimension from the datum plain to the distance from the center-line...also there is no dimension for the start point of 5 51/64" Radius, now if you continue that line it does intersect with the dimension line for the ...
by VowellArt
Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:47 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Top Boot straps, original width?
Replies: 2
Views: 855

Re: Top Boot straps, original width?

Go to any Joann's Sewing Center, they have webbing in just about any width, that's where I went and got my webbing for by front top bow hook straps and rear curtain straps for my early 22 touring. They also carry the snaps and the tools to affix them with too. :)
by VowellArt
Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:42 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***
Replies: 23
Views: 2350

Re: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***

John, my car is a 22 Touring and it has a key in the Cross Shaft for the Hand Brake Leverm George Clipner's 26 Touring also has the same set up. The Factory Number parts list also notes that it was used on 09-27, now whether this is a select few cars or ones made domestically or whatever, I don't k...
by VowellArt
Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:00 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***
Replies: 23
Views: 2350

Re: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***

Okay, the strap iron bracket, when do you guys think it was used. Since it has a Ford Logo on it isn't an aftermarket replacement, do you think then it might be from one of the early cars? Need to know, I'm moving that direction and want to put it in the proper timeline.
by VowellArt
Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:39 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***
Replies: 23
Views: 2350

Re: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***

Another change, cotter pin size and took out the washer.

1919-1925HandBrakeAssembly2.jpg
by VowellArt
Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***
Replies: 23
Views: 2350

Re: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***

Allan, it is a squarish hole but with rounded corner as in Dan's photos.
by VowellArt
Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***
Replies: 23
Views: 2350

Re: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***

Ok, one more change, Steve Jelf brought this to my attention and not finding anything else that disputed what he said, I've made this change. The Brake Lever 3475, doesn't seem to exist as the lever, but the Pawl Rod for the Torpedo runabout. This changed later to 3460 or 3460A (7/32 x 14 21/32 lon...
by VowellArt
Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:15 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***
Replies: 23
Views: 2350

Re: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***

Dan, woo, good stuff, didn't know about that oil felt, saw it listed in the alpha parts list of Bruce's, but couldn't find the bloody thing....now I know, only problem is I don't know what one looks like. It is obviously part of 3450, but if the factory parts list calls it out it must be shown not ...
by VowellArt
Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:11 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***
Replies: 23
Views: 2350

Re: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***

Dan, that key is for the Lever not the cam...I just put it where it goes, not in the order in which it goes there. Also, you'll notice that the cam goes almost to the "U" bend, there is a center line for the pin further down where it goes....but if it is brazed, then did it not also get pinned as t...
by VowellArt
Fri Jun 10, 2022 5:54 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***
Replies: 23
Views: 2350

***1919-1925 Hand Brake Assembly***

Got a question, it is obvious why you'd need a key on the Hand Brake Lever side, but shouldn't there also be a key on the other side too, it also pulls a brake rod. But I can find no pictures, notations or even a reference to such a key on that side. I also couldn't find a different number/size for...
by VowellArt
Thu May 26, 2022 6:23 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Got a question on 1915-1916 Firewall Drawing?
Replies: 12
Views: 1495

Re: Got a question on 1915-1916 Firewall Drawing?

Richard, looks like whatever E.W's. change he made back in Feb of 16, he erased from his Oct. 16 drawing (pretty sloppily too), was this drawing marked anywhere on it as "Obsolete"? Because he didn't put the hole for the mixture rod back in when he made that change. And yes that now fictional hole ...
by VowellArt
Tue May 24, 2022 3:58 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: FJ - Anyone near Topanga, California willing to give new Model T owner driving lessons ?
Replies: 8
Views: 1520

Re: FJ - Anyone near Topanga, California willing to give new Model T owner driving lessons ?

Where in Topanga Canyon? Malibu side or Valley side? If you're going to giving him some driving lessons in that canyon (especially the Malibu side), that's going to be a "white knuckle" experience....for the both of you.
by VowellArt
Tue May 24, 2022 3:44 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Got a question on 1915-1916 Firewall Drawing?
Replies: 12
Views: 1495

Re: Got a question on 1915-1916 Firewall Drawing?

Richard, this is a straight bored hole 5/8 deep with a 3/4 drill bit....it is located (as per the drawing) FirewallQuestion-3.jpg It appears about halfway up from the lower exit for the Mixture Rod hole and you can see from the portion of the side drawing, that it intersects with the slant drilled ...
by VowellArt
Tue May 24, 2022 2:46 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Got a question on 1915-1916 Firewall Drawing?
Replies: 12
Views: 1495

Got a question on 1915-1916 Firewall Drawing?

Can't figure out why this is bored into the engine side of the this firewall....what's it for? It is only 5/8's deep and it does intersect the mixture control rod that passes through that slant drilled hole. Is there some sort of vibration damper that fits inside to keep the rod from turning on it'...
by VowellArt
Wed May 11, 2022 6:33 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Side lamp question.
Replies: 5
Views: 1257

Re: Side lamp question.

Dan, that one didn't go through a correction cycle because it wasn't necessary, I drew it from one off my car which had the squarish inside and I foolishly thought they were all that way, until Steve Jelf informed me as to the round interior of the 1915-16's. Also that the chimney and font's were d...
by VowellArt
Tue May 10, 2022 8:23 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Passing of Patty Lang
Replies: 66
Views: 5963

Re: Passing of Patty Lang

I just heard last night from a friend, very sad news indeed. These things are never easy for those left behind, you and your family have my heart felt condolences. But she had her family gathered round her comfort, which is good. Again, my very heart felt and sincere condolences at your loss. Martyn...
by VowellArt
Tue May 10, 2022 7:51 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1915-1916 Firewall drawing
Replies: 7
Views: 1536

Re: 1915-1916 Firewall drawing

Looks like a section showing thickness of that part of the firewall and the height and width of that notch...5/8 x 5/8. That cutaway notch on the drawing to the right of it is the reference showing the sectioned area B-B, the red circle shows a detail that you can't see from the orthographic view t...
by VowellArt
Tue May 03, 2022 1:29 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Front Seat Back to Riser Assembly 1917-22
Replies: 7
Views: 1190

Re: Front Seat Back to Riser Assembly 1917-22

On a 17-22 the front should look like this (that picture looks more like a 15 or 16) the front seat didn't have one of those risers, but the back seat does. The seat back tack rail supports the seat back tin and anchors it to the body wood frame, through the armrests....the springs are tied to the ...
by VowellArt
Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:07 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1913-1925 Model TT Ruckstell Slift Lock Assembly***
Replies: 21
Views: 2653

Re: ***1913-1925 Model TT Ruckstell Slift Lock Assembly***

Ok, soooo, it seems likely that the bronze Hall Scott TT shifter would span between 1918 and 1922 for use with the 2 pinion axle. Then in 1923 thru 1925 change to the one I drew first, being a reinforced housing due to the problems with the 2 pinion housing, it seems they'd expect that the new axle...
by VowellArt
Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:18 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1913-1925 Model TT Ruckstell Slift Lock Assembly***
Replies: 21
Views: 2653

Re: ***1913-1925 Model TT Ruckstell Slift Lock Assembly***

Ok, Steve, you said your Shifter looked like Adrian's Hall Scott, does your shifter have the words "HALL SCOTT" on it too? Or does it have just a casting or foundry mark on the front? I need to know what it looks like, because I've found this very same shifter on a cars Ruckstell too. Probably true...
by VowellArt
Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:17 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1913-1925 Model TT Ruckstell Slift Lock Assembly***
Replies: 21
Views: 2653

Re: ***1913-1925 Model TT Ruckstell Slift Lock Assembly***

Allan you're absolutely correct, don't know what I was thinking (got all corn-fused with the cars versions)....here's the correction and I'm now drawing the Hall Scott Shifter also, not sure if it is an aftermarket or one that was used on foreign trucks, but it is obvious that it needs doing. :D 19...
by VowellArt
Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1913-1925 Model TT Ruckstell Slift Lock Assembly***
Replies: 21
Views: 2653

Re: ***1913-1925 Model TT Ruckstell Slift Lock Assembly***

Adrian, great pictures, but it looks like your Hall Scott Shifter, doesn't have that spring on the arm to keep the dust cover on the felt seal...but then it also doesn't have that felt seal either....what's on the inside of this shifter, same as the one I drew or is there something different going ...
by VowellArt
Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:00 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1913-1925 Model TT Ruckstell Slift Lock Assembly***
Replies: 21
Views: 2653

Re: ***1913-1925 Model TT Ruckstell Slift Lock Assembly***

Thin flange all around? Got a picture of it?
by VowellArt
Sun Mar 06, 2022 9:38 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1913-1925 Model TT Ruckstell Slift Lock Assembly***
Replies: 21
Views: 2653

***1913-1925 Model TT Ruckstell Slift Lock Assembly***

1913-1925TTRuckstellShiftLockAssemblyP1058A-1.jpg All of the 13-25 Shift Lock Assemblies I've seen, the housings all look like this one with a thicker lower mounting flange than like the upper flange, even though the one in the books shows it as a thin flange all around. Not sure if this is somethi...
by VowellArt
Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:48 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1926-1927 Model TT Ruckstell Rear Axle Assembly***
Replies: 8
Views: 1414

Re: ***1926-1927 Model TT Ruckstell Rear Axle Assembly***

Kerry, soooo the "-A" maybe means American and the "-C" Canadian? Wouldn't be the first time such designations were used.
by VowellArt
Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:24 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1926-1927 Model TT Ruckstell Rear Axle Assembly***
Replies: 8
Views: 1414

Re: ***1926-1927 Model TT Ruckstell Rear Axle Assembly***

Kerry, that number 1059A is for the 13-25 TT, not the 26-27 TT. You can find it in Glen Chaffin's book about the Ruckstell Axle, for both Model T and Model TT, I've got that book and whilst it does cover the TT essentially, it doesn't cover the 26-27 models of the axle. Like with the cars the 26-27...
by VowellArt
Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:30 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1926-1927 Model TT Ruckstell Rear Axle Assembly***
Replies: 8
Views: 1414

***1926-1927 Model TT Ruckstell Rear Axle Assembly***

1926-1927ModelTTRuckstellRearAxleAssembly-1.jpg
Couldn't find any part number for the Shift Lock Assembly nor for the Gasket. If anybody knows those two part numbers, please let me know so I can add them.
by VowellArt
Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:28 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Which years does this spark coil fit?
Replies: 21
Views: 2309

Re: Which years does this spark coil fit?

Um Matt, all my drawings are here on the Forum under MTFCA.com/Resources/Drawings or from the forum page in Gallery/VowellArt and are free to all members to use or download. So, if you need to look for something for your car, there's a good chance you'll find it there...but I've still got a few oth...
by VowellArt
Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:54 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size
Replies: 33
Views: 3884

Re: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size

Rich, hmmm....ok.

MagnetoHornAssembly-2.jpg
by VowellArt
Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:01 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***Jno. W. Brown Model 16 Gas Head Light Assembly***
Replies: 0
Views: 702

***Jno. W. Brown Model 16 Gas Head Light Assembly***

Don't seem to find this model any earlier than 1913 and no later than 1914, that said I suppose that it could extend beyond 1914 if the purchaser didn't want electric lights (magneto or otherwise). Anyhoo, this lamp is characterized by the Hood , the Bezel , the Closure Thumb Screw and the Gas Inle...
by VowellArt
Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:56 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size
Replies: 33
Views: 3884

Re: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size

Rich, lol, everything I do is fun no matter how many changes I've got to make (the major reason I chose this field of work over engineering, in the first place....what I do is fun and the best way to put that is "Fun never quits"). The quest is to make it as correct as possible, you're right, we bo...
by VowellArt
Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:42 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size
Replies: 33
Views: 3884

Re: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size

Ok Rich, I've done a bit of redraw to make things appear as they should if you were going to mount the horn (I had to change that because everything I draw is based upon how it goes onto the car). Anyhoo, how about this one? Also gave it a Rev number because every iteration was beginning to look mo...
by VowellArt
Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:43 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size
Replies: 33
Views: 3884

Re: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size

The logo goes where, bottom or top?
by VowellArt
Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:40 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1912-1913 Gas Headlight Assembly Jno. W. Brown MFG. Co.***
Replies: 8
Views: 1995

Re: ***1912-1913 Gas Headlight Assembly Jno. W. Brown MFG. Co.***

I guess maybe I should've included the model number in the drawings title.
1912-1913GasHeadlightAssembly-JW-Brown2.jpg
That's an easy fix, this is a Model 19
by VowellArt
Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:31 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Built From Scratch Model T's
Replies: 39
Views: 4733

Re: Built From Scratch Model T's

Personally I like building rather than restoring. When you restore a car you end up with 3 of everything, when you build a car, you get the right amount of just what you need to put the car together and you get the best parts available too. ThLady.jpg TheLadyLeftFront.jpg And of course you can have...
by VowellArt
Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:50 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Head off 22 touring. Thoughts opinions?
Replies: 17
Views: 2747

Re: Head off 22 touring. Thoughts opinions?

Might also want to bore out and replace the valve seats with the alloy seat insert. whilst you've got your engine torn down....the new fuels and oil mixtures don't affect the alloys the way they do the cast iron of the block. I had mine done when I was building the car by Eggy's Machine Shop and wi...
by VowellArt
Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:36 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1912-1913 Gas Headlight Assembly Jno. W. Brown MFG. Co.***
Replies: 8
Views: 1995

Re: ***1912-1913 Gas Headlight Assembly Jno. W. Brown MFG. Co.***

Larry, are those different lamps or the same as this one? If different, do you have pictures of them? Need to draw them too.
by VowellArt
Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:04 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1912-1913 Gas Headlight Assembly Jno. W. Brown MFG. Co.***
Replies: 8
Views: 1995

Re: ***1912-1913 Gas Headlight Assembly Jno. W. Brown MFG. Co.***

Darren, I need your Victor generator also....they apparently made other things like side/tail and headlights lights, but their gas generator would be a nice place to begin drawing all the generators too. ;)
by VowellArt
Tue Dec 21, 2021 5:47 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1912-1913 Gas Headlight Assembly Jno. W. Brown MFG. Co.***
Replies: 8
Views: 1995

***1912-1913 Gas Headlight Assembly Jno. W. Brown MFG. Co.***

I drew this headlight, mainly because I've got to draw all of them, but Darren J. Wallace had such really nice pictures on Face Book of it, that I just had to copy them....had a few questions, which always happens when I'm drawing something I totally know nothing about. He posted some nice pictures...
by VowellArt
Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:23 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size
Replies: 33
Views: 3884

Re: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size

I see no Ford script on the Ames horn.


How about the other horn? You said that where I had the script logo wasn't where it was on yours....just wondered where it goes because I can put it anywhere, but I'd prefer to put it where it is supposed to go.
by VowellArt
Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:02 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size
Replies: 33
Views: 3884

Re: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size

Rich, that last one looks more like an electric horn from its bracket...also don't see a terminal on it...but then what the hell do I know, I'm just an artist drawing these thing. I myself have a Hand Klaxon, which does make the Ahh-oo-gah sound (kinda fast and higher pitched than a Model A's Spart...
by VowellArt
Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:25 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size
Replies: 33
Views: 3884

Re: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size

Rich, I don't know, it has a raised center portion, yet has no contact part with a diaphragm to make the noise, to me this suggests that, that raised portions acts like a diaphragm only instead of vibrating it amplifies the sound from that clacker on the back of the windings bracket. You might want ...
by VowellArt
Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:20 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size
Replies: 33
Views: 3884

Re: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size

Just get a mechanical horn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHZCpzrsdEA [/size] I have one Steve, you saw it when last you were out here, it is on the drivers side panel just ahead of the arm rest, but when you last tried it, it didn't work (had to replace the jam nut on the tuning screw)....anyhoo...
by VowellArt
Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:45 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size
Replies: 33
Views: 3884

Re: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size

Rich, how about this? Still don't know what that larger hole is for or which side it's on either.

MagnetoHornAssembly-2.jpg
by VowellArt
Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:15 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size
Replies: 33
Views: 3884

Re: Magneto Horn Bell Screw Size

Rich, what is the larger 5/16th hole for? So the Ames horns were riveted together and the Ford's were held together with screws? Gee, I'm wondering if there isn't a way to "tune" one of these horns to something a lot less annoying than they sound now, by trying different materials for the diaphragm...