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Aware that the 26-27 hogshead accepts a magneto post assembly with a tapered half inch thread similar to the spark plug thread. The earlier magneto posts are held with three screws. What is the size of the opening for the earlier magneto posts? Generally about the same, approx. a .740" opening, in ...

Can someone direct me to some schematics for rebuilding a coil box? It's for my 1924 coupe. Thanks in advance! Here is the Assembly schematic, found on Gallery link at top right of Forum page, under Vowell Art, lots of great schematics of T parts. https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/app.php/gallery/image/...

Snyders offers all types, the early diamond pedal with the “B” or you can get similar with ribbed or Rocky Mtn cast on the pedal face. All brake pedals interchange ‘09-‘25 so will work with later hogshead with starter.

Appears to be a Victor lamp font.

Here is older post showing one.

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Yes, its a reproduction. Restoration Stuff.com has the repair kit you need for that jr size repro Motometer. 2 bevel glass lens 2 die cut gaskets, and 8 stainless screws. Part No. ACC069. $17.00. The other kit with brass screws is $3 extra Appears your repro was re-worked to use an original midget ...

Gail Rodda's book says the Holley #6040 Model G was introduced mid-1914, all brass, lever and bowl. Smooth air inlet and marked Pat. Pending. The 1915 used the same, except was marked Pat. Dec. 22, 1914 Believe the steel bowl was in 1916. According to Bruce's Big Book, 1914 model year (fiscal) ran ...

Agree Many of the 1915 lamps have no mfg or Ford markings, but rather sure they were used on Fords. 1915 smooth top cowl lamp.jpg Interesting too is some have no rivet for the door latch, some have a single rivet, and ones with mfg marking and script on the top have dual rivets...... :shock: 516938...

Photo of the 10th million T, note the date on lower right of photo, June 4, 1924 the date of the 10th million.

The zinc plated tank has black straps, but the engine is painted in all grey, special paint job for a special Ford

That Engineering Change was to delete the wood block used on the TT, and the side bolt and nut. So only the longer, 1 1/16", TT (3074C) top bolt was used. There wasn't a spring part # noted with this engineering change. Can't believed that helped much, but do think 3 months later, the Improved bloc...

Just for reference, here is the repro molding that was available when I did mt '14 at right and some half oval from a brass dealer that I used on my '09. Have there same brass oval edge on my '12 project, you can get this 3/4" from Restoration Supply, www.restorationstuff.com. Part # MOU047. Just l...

Might try again to check the felt behind the brass shield. If the felt is new it will be too thick and push the shield out, so that keeps the rotor barrel from seating fully. Felt should be rubbed with grease to flatten it some for fit. And others have found reproduction shields aren't exactly to sh...

Indeed those perches seem to be non-Ford parts, Ford called them 'spurious' parts :) That is why in 1919 Ford began to really mark most all parts with the Ford script to keep these aftermarket companies out of the Ford part business, but competition is the name of the game, and lots of parts were m...

This is the one for '21-'25 chassis with starter, generator and storage battery. Only difference is the high cowl wiring loom to the terminal block on the firewall has the switch loom hole above the terminal block.

Click on image to enlarge.

Car show and tell at local elementary school today. Kids sure like old cars, got amazing stares when they were told the ole T is 100 years old today! But other than my history lessons, they just loved to honk the elec blat horn and the mechanical aoohga. IMG_5354.jpeg IMG_5355.jpeg IMG_5356.jpeg

I got my usual 4 photos from Steve Ellis today! Jim. Those ‘photos’ aren’t from Steve. Have gotten them too, but never open. Just click on any name from supposed known contacts and you might find the email address is from another, in this case, the scammer’s email! I always block these email addres...

Photo is a '12 front fender and rivets to bracket appear to be a low round type, measure about 15/32" in dia. The Truss head in Restoration Supply wouldn't seem appropriate, may have a pointed crown. The rivets supplied by Lang's for their brackets are likely correct. Their correct bucking bar for ...

Terry You have the best answer, since you won't be adding any wider flap than a rim strip. The narrow rim strip just lays within the channel of the drop rim, so it cannot affect the fitting of the tire beads into that drop center. :D That wire wheel narrow rim flap is used to protect the tube that ...

Would I be wise to use a tube flap similar to the ones used on split rims, or would it be counter-productive? Don't do it! Once had to remove a balloon tire from the wire wheel, that someone placed a flap, and what a struggle! The heavy flap takes a set after time in the curved section, and prevent...

Shackle locks have been used on racers.

Here is older post.
Rob. I think you have shown the ‘grandfather’ of shackle locks!

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/11 ... 1281336285

Thanks guys, but as I understand it, these will not work with Rocky Mtn. Brake Pedals that have the tab to push the brake rod going to the equalizer. Can anyone confirm/dispute this?? Look at what Snyders says .... https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/product.htm?pid=981390&cat=41888 Brent My mistake...

Brent

This type is very easy to install. A modern reproduction is made too.

Lang's # 3158RS

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RM type brake pedal, this style will fit.

The recall states those two sizes , made in April 23, about 20,000 distributed and about 6% of those affected with metal fragments in the zinc oxide filler used.

Holley NH float level adjustment. Instructions apply to factory parts and assemblies that aren't worn or float is cracked and can fill with fuel.

Test with suction to be sure the needle seats and seals.

Jonah The valve when engine is worn, wears out the rim of the block opening, causing the valve head to sink flush or below the block, compromising the sealing effect a proper narrow seat allows. The valve head should rest above the block, ‘seats’ are new rims installed in the openings. A machine sh...

Have two of that first kind, one has the nicer splined shaft, the other is square shaft.

The spine is nice for getting the shift arm where you want it!

Spline shaft on right:

Thanks, those are all good comments, I too thought at first water got in and froze, but how could it... the threads are fine, and no cracks. Allan has the better rational. If you note the 'high F' in the Ford script , that is a give away of an early hub cap, and during those early years the front w...

Got this cap at Hershey, unlike other ones, this one has a bulbous shape. Can you make a guess on this design?

If your spot light has it's own switch, rather easy to route the wire (you may have to cut and splice more length) to the dash switch terminals. best place is at the ammeter, wire to the ammeter post to the Bat terminal, that way when the lamp is on, it will show slight discharge on the meter, for ...

Just got at Hershey today, $5 pile, correct late T wrench, for 26-27 with pipe plug drain. Script is tiny and on top jaw.

Model A version has script + made in USA on the large sliding jaw face.

Replace with 6v Optima, will out perform an 8v and last longer than any other 6v battery.

Gangster’s ‘27.

The starter can spin the motor up to 150 rpms, but a good T in good tune will start in just a few seconds! Never have found the need to stand on the footswitch for a whole minute! Even when cold, a quick right foot push on the footswitch will turn over and fire off the motor. Almost the same as war...

Copious amount of good gasket sealer, the grey Right Stuff. Then wipe off the excess around the seal area.

That will fill gaps and seal from oil leakage.

Had to remove the previous modern seal in the foreground, due to just a tiny wipe of blue RTV, that allowed seepage.

Is there any benefit to get the "Extreme Touring" radiator if I don do any extreme touring? Perhaps if you have a speedster with OHV or other hop up stuff and run fast. Here is the Brassworks description: We added the extreme touring at the request of our customers. It has a 66% increase in copper,...

These pics may help you. The bed boards are held by curved sides of the bed, at the front and rear crossmembers, and by those metal strips that are anchored in saw kerfs of each side of each board. Special wide square toothed washers underside on the carriage head bolts. The hump plate allows cleara...

Need help on this one. I have a 1927 Model T. My father restored it 30 years ago and now I am restoring it again. My spark and throttle control levers do not go far enough through the steering bracket. Spark does not go far enough to put on the part that the spark control rod hooks on to. The throt...

Here's another post on using a tractor muffler.

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Usually just purchase a hanging strap w/ or w/o rubber clamp end, two muffler clamps and mount it up!

Ricky

That is beautiful, are ya gonna tour in the touring? sure looks good!

Maybe for horn, or speedo, with long thin wrap cover for tubing? Little covers assume to be hub cap.

Used the modern lining sold for the 26-27 big rear brake drum. The lining is woven with brass so take care in handling. It's also too wide, but riveted it on one edge and then to the bench grinder removed the overhang. Use care with gloves and good face mask and shield to prevent inhaling dust. Use...

Just get a wide roll of heavy butcher or packing paper and make pattern from folded down top. Did similar making paper patterns for my side curtains that an upholstery shop sewed up. The top boot would be about 3-5 pieces, the top and bottom, and the sides. Add snaps for closure and then add straps...

Seems more like a pair of cowl mount windshield for racing car, or perhaps a pair rear seat tonneau windscreens, for like a '20's Buick or other larger car.

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Believe Classic Wood Products in Greensboro NC sells wood tack strips for Ts.
ricky@classicwoodproductsllc.com

John Anderson also lists '12 to later tack strips in his catalog. Had some tack strips at Luray Swap.

SteveD wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:38 pm
Can someone tell me the taper on the end of an axle?

1 1/2" per foot. Ford axle drawing.

Just to clarify though, you mention that this isn't a Ford style lamp, yet the linked catalogue (that does indeed show side/tail lamps much closer in style to the one I have), lists them as "Ford Gas Lamps". Of course, this is just some other third-party shop owner that is reselling these lamps as ...

A friend just uses a Model A spark plug wrench, bend in handle works ok. But a specialized tool would be likely best.

Your lamp is a Corcoran brand lamp, while Ford did use this mfg., your lamp isn't Ford style. Corcoran made all kinds of lamps, so this kerosene side lamp, with the spade type fitting could have been used on an early Ford as the side/tail mount brackets were spade type. But clearly aftermarket, so ...

The full adv.

Mine is an older copy version from a out of business concern, of the Stevens unit. Works well. Has a knob at the bottom, fit to a small key and keyway to lock the bottom fulcrum disc, you then turn to tighten the reaming pressure, checking as you go for the amount of material to remove. 100_8790 (8...

Dan, I did NOT know that new pan jigs were being made and sold. Can you provide me with any more details? I would be interested after all I went through to find someone who had a jig. And, I have two Model T's.....and some friends with Model T's. Here is the new pan jig at Luray Swap meet. All new ...

Looking at what I presume is a "Jackrabbit" replacement, in time, the friction linings fail. According to hearsay, this clutch pack has probably over 20,000 miles. I wonder where the lost clutch facing went ? Appears in the photo that that set of worn modified Turbo 400 discs are the lower performa...

Well, the decade of the starter/generator Model T did provide for safe electric products, note this fuse for Ford. IMG_5343.JPG And a fuse will prevent this: Engine Fire.jpeg (photo from a forum poster) Here is my ' quick disconnect ', fuse on the Yellow Bat wire. Makes it easy to work on wiring or...

You might try David Woods, he does early coil rebuilds.

David Woods
Williamston T Works
Dwtworks@gmail.com

Frank This info may help narrow in the dates of use, at least it gives the different headlamps and bulb usage. (From Service Bulletin The two-bulb headlamps (Part # T-6511-C, or Fac. No. 6511CX, the third one down in the list ) were used with the green painted visor clear lens, in 1919 mostly, but ...

Have also 'smoked' a wire on my Ts, twice! Once was the short ammeter to bat terminal yellow/black wire on the backside of the dash switch, it was fray I guess from age, but smoke poured from under the dash running down the road! Yikes. Second time I had just installed an accessory dash lamp, the c...

Interesting video indeed by Ken Smith. He could have researched a bit more on the "floorboard myth', instead left it still open to opinions, that just propels the myth :? The comment section of this YouTube video has more viewers of that opinion, that Ford used junk crates for the floorboards! Hogw...

Just a guess, but maybe the lamp is earlier design, prior to changing to an adjustable socket for focusing the bulb? Here is a pair without any hole for adjusting screw, so maybe the early '15 when electric lamps came along, the suppliers to Ford had different designs, certainly later, the adjustme...

My experiences is no, a very good T starter and strong 6v battery will turn over std. compression or high compression engine at same speed. Have done the change out of heads on two Ts and not an issue for the starter. Now the hand crank starting can be felt a bit tougher with high compression head,...

Fun looking truck. The builder used a late TT (‘24-27)cab and placed it on a small drum axle car chassis (pre-26). The bed is the ‘27 metal T pickup bed offered for the runabout. Nice work on the flared fender with extension to fit the location where a runabout fender would go. Perhaps those rear fe...

This one is my fav. "Karfve" gas adjuster... Has a knob to twist and adjust the gas, and if you pull on the knob, it chokes the carb! Unique universal joint to make the angle from the dash, and a loop wire on the shaft to pull up the choke butterfly. Think Ford got the idea for the later NH carb co...

Could be bogus non Ford headlamp bucket. Is it the post type on fender early '26 or the later '26 bucket with flange to fit on the Ford fender crossbar? Here is the typical look of the Ford headlamp bucket recess for the rim rivet tang. The release groove is to one side, yours has the groove in the...

Try tightening the 4 starter mounting machine screws. They can work loose with starter torque. Or may be missing the needed lock washers, or gasket is shot. Check engine oil level too, needs to be below the top petcock.

If above isn’t the case, then worn starter bushings.

Replacing with new is much safer. T axles are now over 100 years old, and fatigued. And many do fracture at the keyway, from loose hub. Cutting a new key way 180 degrees away would induce more chance of fracture in such an aged used axle. MY 2 Cents. So nice to have new quality T axles made in Taiw...

Using the rim tool is helpful IMO. Wrap rim with a rag first to give more friction contact for the rivet head recesses in the tool. Rag protects rim and grip .jpg Then push, very :twisted: hard, using your hip or gut, against the tool, and at same time twist the tool, you have to compress the bucke...

A previous post asked if a gross jet can be cured of intermittent sticking shut & open. They seem very susceptible to getting varnished up & sticking open & closed. Well, turns out it can be disassembled & made good again. Well, as good as was new. HOWEVER, GOOD AS NEW AINT GOOD ENOUGH. The fuel fl...

Here is ref. of usage dates from my research means. IMG_4985.JPG The neat thing about the later clamps is they can be used with the early long studs by just reversing the clamp. So this late design meets Henry's criteria for new parts, since the part numbers didn't change.....they can retrofit earl...

One man top showing top straps.jpg Loosen the top clamps on the stanchions, un-snap the rear gypsy curtains on each side of the rear irons,, so the snaps don't tear the top material, then climb in the rear, and lift and fold down the irons. Be sure to place the top bow saddles first, as the lowered...

Original on right, repro on left.

If you click on member Don Booth, and read his older posts, he has re wooded many Fordors. His posts are full of expert how toos and great pictures.

Here is one link:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/82 ... 1525684013

Clever tool! Yep, those hood latches are a bit of a struggle. So I just used plastic wire ties, they compressed the spring, placed the hood latch. Then, with the help of micro hemostats, griped the washer and cotter, slipped up the washer and cotter pinned the assembly. Finally, cut the wire tie to...

It's earlier for sure, but I don't know the year. I'm also not sure it's a 1917. The ¹¹⁄₁₆" end seems rather big to fit into the space around those transmission nuts. There are some Z tools that I like a lot better for the job. Steve The opening marked '1' on the T-1917 Gas Pack Nut / Transmission ...

Only slight con.....at least on my install of the hi-vol intake. The intake flange rim is a bit larger than Ford intake, and with a repro exhaust manifold the hi-vol intake impinged on the underside of the exhaust manifold. Had to grind off a flat on the top side of the alum hi-vol intake flange ri...

Here's that new model year 1918 Ford TT chassis!

Close-up of that photo shows well worn spindle arm too. Do I see daylight at the rim

And the spindle arm should have a bushing to the top of that arm, all that gap would have fractured any tie rod bolt!

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part # 4025A, which matches the muffler type I have on my T now. Same issue. The cast inlet on the repro early muffler is machined on tight side. Had to take the pipe to the bench grinder and remove some pipe diameter. Took a bit to slim the pipe O.D. To slip fit the muffler inlet. IMG_4758.jpeg Pi...

I have the shields on so that the 2 "ears" fit between the body bracket and the frame bracket, with the bolt going through the brackets and shield Is this the right way to install them? The shields are fitted as you described. The holes for mounting are elongated larger so you can shift the shield ...

Haven't had that heated up tank before that caused any fuel line to carb issues. But image it could happen if the fuel line is rather close to the exhaust pipe. The pipe where the fuel line is draped under with the factory bends, is hot, this thermal image shows the exhaust pipe area under the floo...

'23-'25 Cut-Off home made pickup trucks.

A '25 cut-off touring was my first T, and now have a '23 cut-off touring with original homemade bed..... my favorites!
Like the 'ole T re-purposed the best.

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Hey Dan do you have difficulty removing the front floorboard after the shield is screwed on? Thats the issue I see. Didn't find any issue. But took care on install to know that the floorboard has to come out on occasion. Of course all the floorboards come out for repair work, lift last the #1 board...

Since no paint chips exist for Model T colors, using best judgement is the thing.

Here is an older thread giving a lot of info on Channel Green.

https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/4 ... 1388828492

Got my enclosed spool with modern innards (no. T-2587-E1) , outright from, Birdhaven, (800-337-6977), can then send in a good core to reduce the price.

They know this stuff, on telephone order she asked if I wanted the raised bump style!

The front engine mount is the earlier mount not the one for the high cowl cars. The front bearing/spring clip is the later 3075C, for the '26-27 Improved Car, it has the threaded hole for anchor of the radiator apron. It also has an accessory clips added to give more support to the front spring. Th...

The curved thin circle like 'guide' is screwed to the firewall. The shield is mounted to the upper floorboard, as you place the floorboard, fit the shield edge up and under the guide's raised lip. Reverse the process to remove the front floorboard, rather simple and works. This new design began on ...

Alan, I have never seen a pair of pliers with the script on the jaws. On those I have found it has always been on the handles. Some of the scripts are raised, others have the background stamped down. is the position of the script an indication of the likely date of production? Allan from down under...

The Part # T-3511, the 5/8" x 16 thrd. steering wheel nut was all brass '09-'12. Then changed to steel late '12-'27.

So the body is what is changed? So there is no easy way to goon it up to fit? Your '26-'27 Coupe body is radically different from a '25 coupe, for one, the gas tank is in the cowl. Good news is you have a '26-'27 chassis, so at least the body will mount correctly to the frame brackets and both must...

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Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:31 pm
Thanks Dan, Where could I get a copy of the pamphlet?

Saw one on eBAY once. Don't know about reprints

But this webpage has a full color copy scan, got my screenshot from one being sold on eBay.

https://www.xr793.org/wp-content/upload ... ystems.pdf

I'll second the Stat O Seal, however I smear them and the threads of the plug with Permatex #2. May have to discard old for a new seal at oil change, but lost of oil and a ruined motor on tour is way more expensive that a new Stat O Seal at oil change! Have always used Permatex #2 with any drain pl...

BLB27 wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:57 pm
Jim, Where is the lubricating system diagram from?

From this 1920s MobilOil brochure made for T owners.

The new modern small trans brake drums are made in the pattern of the late '25 which did have shoes, that were later same on the large 26-27 trans brake drums. Good idea for the new drums so they can be reused if the clutch discs wear the lugs. These are J&M brand new. J-M new small trans brake for...

Examined all plugs and changed positions, looked at sparking outside of the cylinders and for the most part seem same as normal. Plugs stayed clean. Changed positions of all coils with same results. 3 and 4 not working. Cleaned and checked the new, New Day Timer. Will go carefully thru the wiring n...

My '13 touring has a one piece brass bushing. When did they stop that? Larry The Price List of Parts for Factory # T-932B bracket, shows Factory # T-944 bushing , 3 15/16" length listed for '09-'14, 1 per car. After that set of 2 bushings listed as 944 + 5027. After April 1921 the upper 5027 was dr...

Thanks Dan ! Out of curiosity, what was the "B" difference, and when did it occur ? Rich Direct info from Professor of All Things Model T : Re: T932B Lower steering bracket variations Report Quote Post by TrentB » Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:42 am The T-932-B Steering Gear Bracket is only used on 1911 thoug...

Relevant to this discussion on T -932B brackets ;) Your’s is correct ‘raised’ cast numerals , on the underside of the barrel, reading away from the dope cup hole end, this style is 1913 to early 1915. Later 1915- 1917 styles the numerals are cast ‘depressed’ into the underside of the barrel, but ali...

The T-932B is the bracket for 1917-1925.

Could be non-Ford mfg, as Ford would use trademark script on this part beginning 1919-to-1925.

Nice looking speedster!

Ya might not need a tilt folding wheel, the steering spider on the T now is upside down.

Just flip it around or add the smaller dia. 1914 and earlier wheel, give you some more space!

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Close-up shows to me that this Ford was skewered on some kind of pointy object to punch in the twin plates! Click on image to enlarge 82C39F93-3A66-4E90-81B8-2BE159E0AF9D.jpeg Maybe some street cars have clip hitches on the nose to pull them around? AA80C0EE-0ACB-470C-A2CA-7EBA8C53D8D5_4_5005_c.jpeg

Could it have hit the rounded low protruding front of a street car? Notice the streetcar in the background, and the tracks next to the platform. Agree, contact with a streetcar head on. Perhaps both were slowing but sure can see point of impact. Smack into the hand crank, bent it in, and point was ...

There are many 'tilt' wheels made for the Ford. Favorite is the Bauer brand, easy pull knob to release and lift up the wheel, and secures well too. Lang's #3503WC is a repro tilt bracket, pricy but nice, you fit to the steering pinion post and then mount your existing wheel rim on it. Bauer tilt.jpg...

that boils over after a drive regardless of idle time. ..... points causing this? Model Ts that can idle after long run, without overheating must have good cooling system. Boiling over is definitely caused by either very low coolant level, or very poor cooling system, i.e.dirty, clogged or poor rad...

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