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Back at it today. First I got the spare tire carrier mounted. I had to clean up the threads and then mount the Y. All I need to do now is walk by it and him my knee. I know that's going to happen soon. :lol: IMG_6314.jpeg IMG_6313.jpeg I know the nuts are not correct. I'm going to order the correct ...

I think I'm ok. I used a short ratchet so i couldn't put too much pressure on them.

Every good garage has a bucket of blots.

Now rattles is starting to look like a Model T with the correct tires. IMG_6307.jpeg When i put them on I noticed a gap where the lugs are. This gap was there before and you can see that the rim is up against the wheel all the way. IMG_6306.jpeg This is how I used the rim spreader to put the tire on...

Well I was able to fix it! I used a barrage blot cut to size then a washer on the other side. I had a metal bucking board and a ball peen hammer. The latch came out a little loose but when I put the rim together it tightened up so I could use a punch and hammer to slide it in place. IMG_6305.jpeg IM...

Thanks Richard. I have some in the attic of my garage. I have to look and see what kind of condition they are in. This would just be for the spare so If I had to use it I hope it wouldn't be for long.

The shim is used so that the wheel doesn't slide too far down the axel. Usually the shim is a bit more towards the threads. Looks like that shim has been pushed down the axel when the wheel was tightened. I still have to get a lot more practice driving. I've been working on new tires.

Wayne, i like your idea of just leaving it alone. I never thought of the pressure in the tire holding it together. If I mount it on the wheel that would hold it together even more so.

Mark I was using the correct spreader and was able to do 4 tires with it. This would be a spare. The spreader was not on the tire at the time. The tire was so old (It was put on in 1974) that it was as hard a plastic. So I was cutting it off with a hacksaw. While I was doing this the side of the spl...

So I was pulling the tire off with my hands and some tire irons. and this happened.

Is there any repair for this? Yes I was using a rim splitter but that was off the rim when it happened. I think the edge of the split must have hit it.

That's one good thing. I've had to rebuild most everything else. The spokes were all done and looked great! IMG_6262.jpeg These look a lot better than the white walls. IMG_6263.jpeg Safety tip. When using tire irons make sure your head is out of the way if they slip. At least it hit me in the head w...

Thanks Frank. I called Lang's they have them on backorder. I'm going to try the place you got the picture from.

A Model T is never done.

I'm always reading something here that makes me go back and look.

Next up was my first time putting a split rim on. The tool worked as advertised!!! I have to admit I was a bit scared that I would damage things. But it went great!!! IMG_6259.jpeg This is what it looked like after I was done. IMG_6260.jpeg I put a little bend in the stem and I think getting it to c...

I you recall a few post ago I had an issue where a slight gas leak. That turned into me finding that some of the sealant from when the gas tank was repaired had gotten into the sediment bulb. Well before I fill it with gas I checked the float bowl. I was nice and clean. IMG_6257.jpeg Then as I was l...

I'm going to look again in my pile of nuts that came with he car first. If not I'll order some. Not sure why I couldn't find them on Lang's WEB page. Thanks everyone!!

Sorry What is nf?

I saw his post. I wonder if the thin nuts have a strange thread as well.

Come on now. Someone help me with my nuts.

Would it be for a spark plug to light off some gas and make flames out the pipe?

I'm trying to attach the spare tire carrier to the goose neck on my 26 Touring. The three studs look like 1/2 x20 fine threads. Is this correct? I've read that the original ones were a thin nut. Fact or fiction.

What about the bolt that holds the rim on? Looks like a 3/8 x 24?

Today the flaps went in. We got several done until Angie noticed that the flap had "This side Toward Tube" printed on it. Not sure why they had a side? The looked the same to me. So we had to take some apart and fix them. We powdered them up first and let some of the air out of the tubes. Once they ...

We now have flaps! I decided to buy them new as the ones that were in the tires are hard.

I also picked up some wood from Ford Wood. Great people to deal with.

This is going to be a lot of fun for both of you. Do lot's reading and asking questions. Start a thread of all the stuff you are doing. It documents everything that's been don and will be fun to look at in years to come. This is my thread https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=9508 Take a look...

Thanks everyone!

I decided to use new flaps as the ones I'm taking out of the old tires are hard. I think they have been in there since 1974 when the tires were put on. I haven't tried Lang's yet but everyone see to be out of stock. Has anyone bought any lately. My car has 4.40/4.50 21 wood wheels. on a 26 touring.

Got some time tonight to powder up the tires and get the tubes in them. I filled the tubes with a bit of air, then I put the tire talc in the tire. IMG_6173.jpeg Then I got the tube in. IMG_6177.jpeg The next thing I did was filled the tube up with air. this made sure that I didn't have any kinks or...

Thanks! Someday I'd like to add them to my car.

For future knowledge, how did this mount tot he car? Were they mounted with the bolts holding on the windshield stanchions?

I also printed off the directions on how to use a rim split tool and think I did it correctly and didn't destroy the rim. How hard can this be? The receipt I have for the tires says that they were put on the car in 1974. IMG_6158.jpeg IMG_6159.jpeg IMG_6160.jpeg Now all I have to do is put on 5 tire...

I was able to paint the parts in the interior that will show after I put the interior in.

Almost forgot. I was able to scope the rear and I think i got a look at the thrust washers. Are these them? The camera was pointing to the right. I could see the gears when I looked left and I think I'm looking at them. See any Babbitt in there?

Well Tonight I made some adjustments to the Emergency brakes. Here is what I did. First I made sure that this cam and lever was to the rear. IMG_6125.jpeg Made sure the cam was level. IMG_6126.jpeg Made sure I torqued it to 120 foot pounds and look cotter pins now!!! IMG_6131.jpeg Here is a look at ...

Well I got the scope I also made some adjustments. Take a look at my thread Getting Rattles Back on the Road.

viewtopic.php?t=9508

Take a look You'll laugh you'll cry. You may call me a bone head. LOL

I'll be ordering it soon. Thanks fo the tip.

Thanks ScottI'm going to look for a scope with its own screen. That seems like the way to go. Plus you can use it for other things as well.

Scott, I tried what you said and this is what happened. I pulled on one axel and had my daughter rest any movement. the other side moved in and out very little. I did not measure it. Then we did the second part We both pulled the axles "out" to extend them...then I pulled harder to seat the whole me...

I'm going to order a scope. Hard to find one for an IPhone. I've got to look again. I think I've put about 1 mile on the car so far and I don't plan on driving it much before I start my rebuild of the rear. I just did know if the movement I measured is cause to park the car until the rebuild or coul...

Thanks for the replies. I still do intend to pull it apart to make sure my thrust washers are ok. I just wanted to be able to drive it some more before I pulled it all apart. Still going to run the tests that Scott was nice enough to lay out for me.

Scott I'll give that a try. Got to make sure my mechanic gets her homework done first. Thanks for the test procedure.

As I was making sure that my rear hubs were not contacting the cap on the axel tube I grabbed the axel and gave it a pull. It moved! But the question was by how much? I put my dial indicator on and this is what I got Driver's side was 21 tempImageU0zVIo.gif Passenger side was 28 IMG_6036.jpeg In my ...

John, It worked!! I put a piece of wood on it and hit it a bit harder with a hammer and it moved quite a bit. I don't think it will hit anymore. I also sanded the shoes down. There is still a bit of a drag on them but I don't want to sand off the rivets.

Scott, Ha that's my better half.

John I'll try it again. I did tap it with a piece of wood and a small hammer. Maybe I should give it a better hit.

Today's adventure Getting the Touring car's windshield weather tight.

Then it was time to put the one bolt in that it almost impossible to get a nut on the other side.

Even my wife gave it a shot!

The other thing I did tonight was looked at the rear axel. Here is what the shim loos like.

Then on the car.

I also got the felt for the hub.

Here is a video of what the issue is with the axel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AqqNuvGjnU&t=37s

More progress tonight! I was able to put the wood in for the front. I hope that it gives me enough wood for the interior. I can't imagine nailing to the wood. I'll have to use a staple gun. Seems like the wood would flex as you were hitting it. IMG_6021.jpeg IMG_6020.jpeg I'm thinking this piece of ...

Thanks Richard. I'm going to look. I bought a rubber kit for the windshield I bet it's in there. As for the nut. I'll let my daughter give it a try.

Doing my part to keep it alive.

Today's work was first putting on the windshield stanchions. Is this grove for a rubber gasket? IMG_6015.jpeg Also what's the best way to get the nut on. My gosh I thought the nut that holds the power brake booster on a MOPAR under the dash was bad. I may have to take apart the dash again. IMG_6013....

Thanks Mark!!

Ha! Don't worry she'll check my work. LOL

Today I got some more wood in the car and painted my windshield stanchions.

Not sure what all these little holes are for yet. One seems to be filled in.

Thanks for all the input. I did order the thicker shims. I guess the key thing here is to monitor how the wheel is doing.

Thanks to Scott for noticing that my rear wheel was hitting the dust cover. I ordered shims as well as the felt that goes in the hub and they should arrive soon. I watched a video of a guy putting shims on the axel of a Model A and I would assume that's how you do it for the t as well. It didn't sho...

https://www.modeltford.com/item/2505SH.aspx

Found it! Now i know what it looks like.

Scott Thanks for all you help! I now see that one band is open more than the other. Does the shim look like a big washer? I'm going to look for it as well as the felt washer. Mark Thanks for your help as well. I have set the shoe in the drum and it looks like it's ok. I will have to get after the th...

Well I checked by placing the shoe in the drum and measuring the gap. Then measuring the gap when it's installed. sure enough I think I have the issue of the lining being too thick. It looks like the pad was in the car before because you can see that it's used a bit. I've seen people have said to sa...

Good idea! I'll check.

So tonight I decided to take the rear wheel off and see why the parking brake didn't work. I'm thinking that after finding these in my pile of pars I kind of know why. IMG_5982.jpeg After taking off the hubcap I discovered something dangerous!!!! No cotter pin and the nut was on finger tight!! IMG_5...

Well Jesus Take the wheel!!! I looked. No cotter pin and the nut was on finger tight. Good thing I only test drove the car!!!

Well I got it out. A few taps and out it came. I should have looked in the book.

Thanks for putting up with me. I cleaned out all the old grease and will put it back once the solvent drys out.

As always thanks for the info. I'll give it a wack!

So I took the wheel off the front to continue to repack the front bearings. I'm cleaning out the old grease from the inside of the hub. I ordered two grease seals and was about to take out the old felt seal when I noticed that I can't move the bearing around with my finger. Should I get a wooden dow...

Drove Scarlotte O'Hair to Fredericksburg VA Cars & Coffee. 150 miles round trip between Richmond & Fredericksburg using Historic Route 1. It is still cool to travel a road that I have been on 100's of times in a modern vehicle at the slower speed of a T. Wife out of town so left predawn top down, L...

What an informative thread. I'm going to go check mine. The rear end was my next project anyway.

Ronald!!! Where have you been! That's the best picture of the where the wood goes that I've seen so far! Thank You for posting!!

Thanks for all the Info everyone.

Always helpful to gather experiences.

Hey It's not Child Labor if they are having fun.

So my brother said that old grease (from the 60's and 70's) mixed with modern grease can have a chemical reaction that can cause the grease to become corrosive and damage the wheel bearings. I know all the old should be cleaned out anyway but if that's true and you don't get it all out.........Any t...

Well we were able to get out and repack the front wheel bearings today. IMG_5959.jpeg IMG_5964.jpeg IMG_5966.jpeg IMG_5967.jpeg https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NR1JrIPZaX4 I know they make bearing packers but this is the old way. Ha!!! :lol: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C75zowRCykg

So the first thing I noticed is that the hubcap was filled with grease. Not sure this is necessary. So my first question is: Do you have to have all the grease in the hubcap and all over the nut? IMG_5959.jpeg My second question is. How tight do you make the bearing and the nut? I'm used to my Mopar...

I would check the timing. Every time the pin that turns the crank shaft goes just past the 3:00 position (like 3:15) a coil should spark.

Hank,
You have helped me out a lot getting Rattles back on the road. My daughter and I appreciate all you have done for the hobby and us.

https://www.modeltford.com/item/6437B.aspx

This is the bracket you will need.

https://hkkeller.hibid.com/lot/29806-14 ... tric-horn/

This is what it looks like.

Dan that last photo took me a long time to understand how to take the measurement. The book is so blurry. You pictures should be mad a sticky in the tech section. Nice job!

That's what I did. It was very helpful. I have slowed down some recently so I have to start up again. Members here always love pictures and updates on what you are working on. Try looking up Getting Rattles back on the Road and you can see what I've done. Good luck with your build. Don't get discour...

Ha!! You guys are great. I've been out of the Marine Corps now for about 8 years and I miss people busting on me.. :lol: :lol: :lol: I looked at the rug and it does have a white layer wrapped around it under the rug. Even has a chunk of the black brick left over. I'll make sure I don't chew on it.. ...

I'll check to see if it has a manufacture on it.

So I was up at Carlisle for the Chrysler show and came upon a foot warmer. The outside seems to be covered with what looks like rug material. Then it occurred to me. Is this made out of asbestos? I see them for sale on here from time to time.

I hope to have more videos up soon. My to do list was keeps evolving every time I read this forum. What a great pile of information.

Wow! I can't believe I found a tool that no-one has seen before. Firestone knock off? It does look like it's for pulling something.

Her small hands come in handy!

Her quote for today was " Most things can be solved with a can of brake cleaner."

Well we're back at it again. Sorry for the delay My daughter is trying to master the stick shift in the soon to be her Jeep as well as other things. Today we trimmed the floorboards to fit. We had to adjust the hight of the small board in the middle of the rear footwell. IMG_5873.jpeg IMG_5874.jpeg ...

OK we have several guesses. Anyone have one?

I picked this tool up a few years back and I'm not sure how to use it. I think it's for spreading open a tire. Does anyone have pictures of how it was used? Says Firestone on it.

Thanks everyone!!

Dave I just sent you and him an e-mail.
Rob

So I have two spare tire carriers one seems to fit my 21" model T wheel the other is a bit larger. Any Idea what car? Seems to be made a bit different as well (extra bracing in the center).

Scott, What a great car you will soon have. I grew up in Waltham. Cal the Waltham museum of Industry they will have lots of answers to your questions. Good luck with the car from the watch city!!

I got my top bow wood for my 26/7 Touring from these guys.

The make the kit with everything already bent along with the rivets.

The floor boards are from JP Auto Wood. I bet that someone drilled out holes to hold down the floor. I know the ones where the door is are for the door sills. I'm going to have to beat some metal or trim some wood to make the drivers side fit.

We were looking at those triggers at the store. I got the "You mean you knew about this and didn't say anything?" Ha!!!

Ha!! I asked her that question. How's that finger doing after the 4th can of paint?

So we were putting in the rear floor and noticed some holes in the body of the car. I know the ones for the threshold but what are these for? They seem to be under the floor.

Well, school's out so I got my mechanic back to work. IMG_5672.jpeg We worked on getting the seat springs painted. IMG_5669.jpeg Then we decided to work on getting the gas overflow tube inserted in the tank. Learned something doing this. The early gas tanks had the set screw on the passenger side of...

She get's lots of requests for work. Ha!! She's even going to be a part of the take apart T at our AACA show in June.

That's a cool tool you built. I think I lifted the flywheel on and off the engine 50 times before I got the shims right. But when you get them right you get lot's of power.

Got some work done yesterday. The first thing I did is fit the floor. I found two issues. First there was a piece of wood under the battery that was too thick and made the battery too high so the floor wouldn't fit. Solved that issue with a thinner piece of wood. IMG_5634.jpeg Then I painted the fro...

Perry,
Ha! I'll get it connected once I get some of the neoprene seals. Soon.........

Tonight I took a look at a very small gas leak that I had. I had asked about tapping the threads on the tank but decided to take a look first. After taking off the sediment bowl I found what I suspected. some of the tank sealer had got into the threads and could have contributed to the leak. IMG_563...

This was a cool recreation.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ddMQ_XGflGc

This was a recreation of Ford's "Kitchen Table" engine.

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