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Identify, please ?

Post by Rich Bingham » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:42 pm

Photograph notes the location is Rexburg, Idaho, no date, but indicates the car may have been part of a tour or "auto parade".
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:36 am

That's a stumper. I don't see anything like it where I usually look. Imperial comes close.
The full elliptical front springs, the long hood, the curve in the rear fender at the running board and that cowl are key features.
If the right guy sees this we will know.
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Post by Billdizer,Spencer In » Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:30 pm

Could it be a Mitchell? The implement dealer in the back ground sold Mitchell wagons, and Mitchell made cars too. I found a reference to a 1910 Mitchell and the hub caps and wheels/rear brake drum look the same, as well as the hood/radiator.


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Post by Burger in Spokane » Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:46 pm

Mitchell radiators look similar (for what little you can see of it here).
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Post by Dan Haynes » Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:02 pm

The car in the photo would fit in a Mitchell's toolbox.

The Mystery Car is shapely but, *man* it's tiny.
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Post by Loftfield » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:09 am

May be a Mitchell-ette?

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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:10 am

With the hundreds of small companies making cars that didn't survive there is bound to be some we won't recognize. The cowl even looks European but the lamps do not. These posts do serve to test our resources and broaden our knowledge.
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Post by Rich Bingham » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:44 pm

Somewhere in my 60 years' gatherings I have a couple of editions of Floyd Clymer's Auto Scrapbooks. They are filled with ads for cars we've never even heard of, and from the earliest years, many that don't even have a surviving example in the present day. Perhaps this is one of them ?

The Mitchell wagon dealer in the photo is likely a red herring, as credits to the photo indicated the car was part of a cross-country auto tour. I'm grateful for the responses, as I never knew that the Mitchell motor car company of Racine, Wisconsin was based (like Studebaker) on a successful and extensively distributed manufacturer of wagons and carriages.

Interesting to me is that in my early youth, Rexburg Implement was still doing business in that same location on East Main, albeit in a masonry building that probably replaced the one in the picture very soon after this photo was taken.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:10 pm

The car would almost certainly be in the "Standard Catalog of American Cars 1805 to 1942". Beverly Rae Kimes and Henry Austin Clark spent years compiling it. I don't think they left out much. At 1536 pages and 5000 photos it is a little difficult to find a particular car without a name to start with.
With the early Buick you posted and the '03 Rambler and '08 REO Joe found locally it is fun to think what cars were here before the Model T.
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Post by Burger in Spokane » Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:37 pm

Am I the only one that thinks about these pioneer automobile days from
a very remote buyer's perspective ? I mean, it's 1905, and Joe Blow has
decided that a car is in his future, in very remote 1905 Rexburg or Sunset,
or wherever ....

None of the brands were known or proven ... the new Ford or the new
Funkbunklermobile ? How did people base a choice ? How could they know
that a make would stay around ? Parts be available ? Someone around who
knew how to fix them ?

This might have been less of an unknown in one of the eastern big cities in
1905, but in some fly-blown dustbowl mountain mining camp or wheat farming
town ? It was a whole different world back then.

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Post by Rich Bingham » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:15 pm

Nope. You're not alone, Burger. I think about it a lot, mostly from the point of view of a horse-powered world about to change, and a world without pavement about to change even more, since I've lived my life in what were those fly-blown mountain towns. What fascinates me is the extent those earliest gas buggy infernal contraptions penetrated the remote West in the very early days. Nearly 60 years ago when I was first bitten by the Model T bug, both the living memory of old-timers we pestered and the derelicts we collected and visited were testimony to the fact that the auty-mobile did not get a really firm hold in this valley until the 'teens. As time passed, a deeper, earlier history slowly came to be revealed.
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Mon May 03, 2021 8:37 am

I think one indication of how the automobile wad looked upon in the early days of the last century is to view the old postcard photos from the photo booths at the fairs. There are many of them from the St. Louis Word Fair from 1904 that have a group of people sitting in an automobile that have a sign on the car that says "Seeing St. Louis". I think this situation shows that people wanted to have their photo taken in an automobile as a souvenir of their visit. Cars were a new thing and they had proof that they had been in one!
As for which one to get, that might have been influenced by a salesman and which district he had to sell in.


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Post by TXGOAT2 » Mon May 03, 2021 9:36 am

Automobiles, flying machines, fast trains, radio.... electric lights... telephones... washing machines and sundry other household gadgets... ready-made clothing... and much more.... life-changing progress.... interesting times indeed!

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Post by ironhorse » Thu May 06, 2021 4:54 pm

about halfway down this page on the right is a 1912 Mitchell speedster looks close to me
https://mitchellcarcollection.com/vehicles/cars/
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Post by ironhorse » Thu May 06, 2021 5:25 pm

Excuse me My brain tripped I meant the 1911 roadster the blue one not the grey one. :oops:
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Post by jiminbartow » Fri May 07, 2021 1:32 am

Side by side photos of Mitchell and mystery car:

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Many similarities and many differences too. Rounded firewall looks the same. Fenders look the same, including the rounded rear fender. Carriage lights with handles are the same, but the hood of the mystery car is different and unusually low. Can’t Imagine the low, long engine that would occupy such a small compartment. Jim Patrick

PS. Looking closely at the photo of the mystery car, is it a coincidence that the sign in the background reads Mitchell Farm and...Wagons? Perhaps it is an advertising photo. It is only natural that Mitchell would try to change with the times from manufacturing wagons to manufacturing automobiles: see: www.cowboyandchuckwagoncooking.blogspot ... wagon.html
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Post by ironhorse » Fri May 07, 2021 11:28 am

try this roadster
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if you remove the top it looks real close with the mother in law seat
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Post by Varun Coutinho » Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:04 am

1907 Premier Model 24 3-Passenger Runabout

Wheelbase : 108.5 inches

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Post by Dan Haynes » Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:16 pm

When I grow up, I want to be as sharp as Varun Coutinho.
Honestly, I see him on several platforms and that guy wins the trophy for identifying really obscure, oddball early cars.
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