Rambling in the desert

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Rambling in the desert

Post by Rich Bingham » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:24 pm

Caption states Frank Gedeney driving his 1907 model 21 Rambler. Frank luved in Elko, Nevada and re-located to Mountain Home, Idaho.
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Re: Rambling in the desert

Post by Dan Haynes » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:52 pm

Interesting thing about those Ramblers (and for several years later), to make the hood appear longer, half of the brass radiator was painted hood color. You can see where the hood hinge ends but the color continues onto the brass and half way around the radiator neck. Then, to keep the radiator from looking short-changed, they added some extra to it, but the addition just extends into the air. It's all about the visuals.
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Re: Rambling in the desert

Post by Burger in Spokane » Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:30 pm

Looks pretty cheesy to this observer. At least the add-on.
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Re: Rambling in the desert

Post by Dan Haynes » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:07 pm

Cannot disagree. It is a strange detail shared by no one.
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Re: Rambling in the desert

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:11 am

One thing about some of those Ramblers? Sometimes they can be easy to identify, even in poor quality or distant photos. As Dan H says, "A strange detail shared by no one."


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Re: Rambling in the desert

Post by TXGOAT2 » Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:56 pm

The roadster appears to have a stone guard or decorative insert in the radiator extension, which improves the appearance considerably. Perhaps it was an option, or perhaps the car in the first pic had one originally, and it was damaged or misplaced. It just looks wrong as-is. The half-painted radiator looks a bit odd, but it was certainly distinctive. Another thing that stands out is that the radiator is located well ahead of the front axle, and it seems likely that the engine was also mounted forward of the usual position typical of cars of that era. That arrangement allows more passenger space and improves riding qualities, but probably led to higher steering effort. It wasn't until the mid to late 1930s that most cars had the engine over the front axle, more or less, and the radiator mounted ahead of the axle. The car in the third pic has a number of differences in its construction as compared to the first two.

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Re: Rambling in the desert

Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:42 pm

It's hard to find good detailed photos sometimes. Looking at different poor photos helps me see what is really going on there. The top row are 1906s and show it a bit better. (what looks like a stone guard) The others might help visualize it. The other "1906" and 1908 ones show some evolution of the style.
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Re: Rambling in the desert

Post by Dan Haynes » Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:19 pm

You found the same thing I found, Rich... original period photos show the painted detail, restored cars though, for the most part, did not get the correct treatment. You can see the bead(s) rolled into the radiator band on restored cars where the paint would have started but, for the most part, the brass is all polished with no painted band.
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Re: Rambling in the desert

Post by Rich Eagle » Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:34 am

Very true Dan. I'll suggest that Rich's photo is a Model 21 double opposed motor for anyone interested. They also made 2 Models with four cylinder motors. All had the two-toned radiator bands. This Dealer Sales Brochure has some nice illustrations of them.
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