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Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Mon Aug 29, 2022 6:35 pm

Picked up this gem this weekend. Appears well built. Anyone play with one like it?
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I figured it would be useful with the T project amongst other things. If you have a cool Tool post it. Might be fun to see
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Re: Tool Time

Post by speedytinc » Mon Aug 29, 2022 6:40 pm

Yea. Thats an atlas lathe. The quick change gear box is a huge score.


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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:18 pm

I haven’t officially figured out it’s production date yet but the manual that came with it had a 1967 date on it. Came with some nice attachments and some new tool steel.12” swing. Now I will be hunting some accessories for it ;)
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Rich Eagle » Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:37 pm

As a matter of fact, YES. I have had custody of this one for 55 years. It has survived my learning to use it. Hundreds of things have been made on it for my Model Ts and other cars. Spinning brass parts on it was a little tough on the bearings but it still manages to do whatever I need it to do. I haven't used any other lathes so I can't compare it to them but if yours is 10% as good to you as mine has been to me you should be very happy with it.
I am pleased to see another.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:04 pm

:lol: :lol: Welcome to the Craftsman/Atlas lathe support group!
Apparently it's the tool of choice for Model T owners. Mine came from the maintenance department of a local spud processing plant in the early 90s. The cross-feed gears were stripped, and one change gear set shelled out. Probably happened at the same time. Fortunately Sears still supported it, and I got the needed parts reasonably. It's a good item, all the elements are made to be adjusted and serviced. It's served me well for 30 years, and I'm fortunate to have acquired it ! Have fun with yours, it looks clean and well maintained.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:52 pm

Well this is great a support group! I acquired it from my brother. He has one identical to it and another atlas probably from the 50’s. Rich E yours looks great! Appears to be a bench top model. Looks like a painting with all the trinkets and the lighting. Love it
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:24 pm

Here’s one to increase the possibilities!
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90 Ton press brake. This has bent up all kinds of things on the farm. It was said when new to have been in a prison. Whenever they did work in a prison I don’t know :? When you fire it up the whirring of gears clutches and a big 3 phase motor revving up to speed is quite dramatic! Definitely not a machine to get complacent with. Very powerful
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Kevin Pharis » Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:12 am

The ol flywheel machines were a breed of their own! Here is my new to me punch press (stuck in the mud in my backyard) probably built in the 10’s-20’s. Has dimpled several dozen wire wheel rims since...
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:23 am

Kevin Pharis wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:12 am
The ol flywheel machines were a breed of their own! Here is my new to me punch press (stuck in the mud in my backyard) probably built in the 10’s-20’s. Has dimpled several dozen wire wheel rims since...

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Always count yur fingers before a project, and after!
That is quite lovely and beats drilling holes! What make is it?
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here is one I use often that I would consider in the same family. Scotchman iron worker. Cuts flat, angle, and punch’s holes. We call it “The Muncher”
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:50 am

Wow ! You guys are into the heavy artillery ! :shock: Fun to see these machines.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Craig Leach » Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:55 pm

I have a Craftsman just like it and there is a ton of accessories for it. Four jaw chucks, quick change tool holders, steady & fallow rests, Armature chucks, there is even a small milling attachment. I started out with a AA products ( Craftsman labeled ) 6" x 18" that I paid $100 for. That was over 40 years ago. Have not been without one since. Have fun, be careful & don't leave the key in the chuck.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:27 pm

Rich P. Bingham wrote:
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Wow ! You guys are into the heavy artillery ! :shock: Fun to see these machines.
Hope the bar that has been set is not to high! We accept all tools great and small, new, old, homemade, odd and the mysterious. to name a few. lets see um...
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:30 pm

Craig Leach wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:55 pm
I have a Craftsman just like it and there is a ton of accessories for it. Four jaw chucks, quick change tool holders, steady & fallow rests, Armature chucks, there is even a small milling attachment. I started out with a AA products ( Craftsman labeled ) 6" x 18" that I paid $100 for. That was over 40 years ago. Have not been without one since. Have fun, be careful & don't leave the key in the chuck.
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Hey Great another member for the support group! the small milling attachment is on my find it buy it list. yes remove the key or it may get stuck in your teeth :shock:
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Dallas Landers » Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:59 pm

Late 20's or 30's Rockford economy lathe with 4 speed aux. Gear box. It was free. I had to buy the electric motor.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Scott_Conger » Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:34 pm

And now the other end of the spectrum - Part of carb jet manufacture:

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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:55 pm

Dallas Landers wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:59 pm
Late 20's or 30's Rockford economy lathe with 4 speed aux. Gear box. It was free. I had to buy the electric motor. 20220831_135856.jpg
Love the exposed drive belt! Maybe was a line shaft machine? Nice one!
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:57 pm

Scott_Conger wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:34 pm
And now the other end of the spectrum - Part of carb jet manufacture:


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Now here is some crazy stuff going on! Homemade? What do you call it?
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Scott_Conger » Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:17 pm

Moseley Watchmaker's lathe with conoidal collets, Derbyshire compound, Wolf Jahn milling head and some custom gauging. The magnetic stand is gone now and all custom supports are in place...drop dial indicators are as good as DRO and a lot less cumbersome, as DRO slides would be bigger than the lathe!

the pipe-plumbing stand for the counter-shaft is a bit of an embarrassment dating back to my teen years but I am loath to remove that evidence of my inexperienced youth.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Craig Leach » Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:44 pm

Bryant,
There is about 5 of those milling attachments on eBay but they are all for sale buy people that plan to retire off of selling one :o Even the 6" ones are expensive. Can almost buy a used mill/drill for what they want. The first topic of the support group should be moderation, machines are like model Ts they tend to multiply.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Mark Nunn » Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:02 pm

Scott, did Rube Goldberg come for a visit?


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Re: Tool Time

Post by Scott_Conger » Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:02 pm

Yes Mark, and I was happy to give him some pointers

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Re: Tool Time

Post by A Whiteman » Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:30 am

Favourite precision 'adjuster' - a very useful tool indeed!
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:18 am

I couldn't agree more, Adrian ! The precision adjuster comes with detailed instructions on its proper use. Most important, #1. Do not force adjustment; use a bigger adjuster.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:37 am

Looks like THORS hammer!
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:37 pm

Oh the tools I would have bought if I had room and money. ;)
I did buy this brake drum lathe hoping to covert it for brass spinning. In the mean time I've cleaned anything round that will that will bolt up to it. This T drum cleaned to bare metal in 20 minutes and the hub pretty clean in 15. Old frazzled wire brushes, sand paper and Scotchbright pads work great on it. I don't use my sand blaster any more.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:58 am

Glad to see you could repurpose the brake lathe! To often things just go to the junk pile. I fear in decades to come the best old machines to be found will be harbor freight models :o
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:59 am

Fun in a box!
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Craig Leach » Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:33 pm

Adrian,
That being the most versatile tool in the box. To a black smith its a cross peen. To a mechanic it's a B.F.H. To a machinist it's a hand held reciprocating press. To a A&P technician it's a vibrometer. (as in adjusted rivets in wing with vibrometer ) sounds better than hammer doesn't it? And if you break anything the customer needed a new one anyway.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bill Dizer » Sat Sep 03, 2022 1:08 am

Check Govdeals.com for auctions of machine tools and about anything else you might need. Some bargains, some not, but lots of lathes, and mills on most of the time. Every type from basic to cnc! This is an auction service for state and federal agencies that have surplus items. Be sure to check all related listings because many items are not where you would expect them to be! Check loading instructions too. Some will help, others you are on your own!

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Re: Tool Time

Post by A Whiteman » Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:03 am

My buddy who worked manufacturing Semi trailers called his one the "nok-tometor'


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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Sat Sep 03, 2022 2:54 pm

Here is a Singer 241-12 heavy duty sewing machine I picked up a few years ago. It fulfilled my need to try anything. I added heavy feed dogs, a roller presser wheel and a leather needle. Bring on the upholstery work!
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what’s not to like about a sewing machine with an oil pan and oil pump?
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not to mention a heavy duty clutch motor. I looked up the serial number and it is from 1948
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Re: Tool Time

Post by otrcman » Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:40 pm

OK, here is a deal that (hopefully) will be too good for somebody to pass up. I have been storing a 1 lb. coffee can full of collets for about 40 years, hoping that I would either find a need for them myself or find a person who needs them. Maybe somebody on this forum will be the needy one.

The marking on each collet says, "Hardinge", which is an old-line American maker of high quality lathes and milling machines. I'm familiar with collets in size ranges like like 5C and R8. The markings on these little guys says, "2VB". Their capacities seem to range from about .25" diameter down to maybe .025. The drawbar hole looks like it might be 5/16". Each collet is about 2.5" total length and about 5/8" body diameter.

They will go to whoever needs them. All for the cost of boxing and postage.

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Post by otrcman » Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:43 pm

Sorry 'bout the lack of images. I've done it successfully before, but somehow the latest revision to either my computer or to my brain has voided whatever I knew about posting images. Note, computer is a Mac.

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Re: Tool Time

Post by Scott_Conger » Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:38 pm

VB collets are pretty darn rare, and to the equally rare person who needs them, they will be highly prized if in any kind of decent shape

WOW
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Kevin Pharis » Sun Sep 04, 2022 12:24 am

otrcman wrote:
Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:40 pm
OK, here is a deal that (hopefully) will be too good for somebody to pass up. I have been storing a 1 lb. coffee can full of collets for about 40 years, hoping that I would either find a need for them myself or find a person who needs them. Maybe somebody on this forum will be the needy one.

The marking on each collet says, "Hardinge", which is an old-line American maker of high quality lathes and milling machines. I'm familiar with collets in size ranges like like 5C and R8. The markings on these little guys says, "2VB". Their capacities seem to range from about .25" diameter down to maybe .025. The drawbar hole looks like it might be 5/16". Each collet is about 2.5" total length and about 5/8" body diameter.

They will go to whoever needs them. All for the cost of boxing and postage.

Dick

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Never heard of a 2VB, but looks like Hardinge still produces the 2VB collets... special order, and only $290 each!

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Re: Tool Time

Post by otrcman » Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:35 am

We'll let this sit on the Model T forum for a few more days to give the T guys a shot at them and then I guess I'll move over to a wider-reaching tool site if someone could suggest such a site.

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Re: Tool Time

Post by Dan Hatch » Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:11 pm

To bring this back to automotive, how about one of these?
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Here is what it is.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:34 pm

Dan Hatch wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:11 pm
To bring this back to automotive, how about one of these?
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Here is what it is.
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Dan that is quite nice! Any idea of its age?
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Dan Hatch » Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:57 pm

I will have to check the app chart. I think it goes from teens to the 30’s. With also post pic of the master set tomorrow. Dan


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Re: Tool Time

Post by Dan Hatch » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:33 pm

Manual is dated 1931 but specs go up to 34. They would send new specs each year. Here is picture on 34 sheet, goes back to early 20’s.
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Here is larger master set
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Has same book.


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Re: Tool Time

Post by Burger in Spokane » Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:39 pm

This grinder oughta keep those tools sharp ! Castings and stone marked "Cleveland Stone Co./Cleveland, O.

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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:52 pm

Dan Hatch wrote:
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Manual is dated 1931 but specs go up to 34. They would send new specs each year. Here is picture on 34 sheet, goes back to early 20’s.
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Here is larger master set
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Has same book.
Dan that is spectacular! I see that it tests multiple things. What are all the various hook shaped devices for? It’s like an antique mechanical scan tool :lol:
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:56 pm

Burger in Spokane wrote:
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This grinder oughta keep those tools sharp ! Castings and stone marked "Cleveland Stone Co./Cleveland, O.


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Brent that is nice! Is it a direct drive or a gear reduction? I have a small one for kitchen knives on a gear reduction. My dad has one with a large stone powered by bicycle foot pedals. Mom turned it into a flower pot though ;)
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Burger in Spokane » Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:21 pm

Direct drive. I love the tulip mouth oil bowl that the wheel spins through !

My brother has a bicycle drive unit like you describe. It is SO cool !
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Dan Hatch » Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:01 pm

The “hooks” are for fitting into the clys to find the top dead center of piston travel. This lets you time the spark. Dan


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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:22 pm

Bordering the “odd and unusual” this goat treadmill fits the shoe.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Scott_Conger » Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:26 am

I don't usually have a bunch of spare time, but recently was upgrading a crappy/cheap 12 ton press, which would turn into a pretzel at about 5 tons, into a real 12 ton press. It will likely be greater capacity than that when done but will at least be an HONEST 12T. I finally gave up on the idea of buying a nice 35T press, so this will have to do...

Anyway, as part of my renovation, other than beefing everything up, I also made a pair of nice table supports as shown here. The other end is bullet-shaped and seeks the alignment holes with ease which is a blessing...the knurled handles feel "right" and the collar shows me when it is fully and safely engaged...just a stupid Saturday afternoon project. Gun-blued them and everything looks good.

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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:15 pm

Very good! Don’t forget to add the made in the USA tag!
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:26 pm

Speaking of presses. Here is one for the Manley Man!
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Manley 60 ton! I get a little nervous around 40 tons :? POW 💥 make sure your not bleeding and collect the parts ;)
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Dallas Landers » Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:54 pm

Scott, that should get those stuck parts out of carbs? I like those projects on saturday afternoon also.


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Re: Tool Time

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:46 pm

For those of us who only yearn at a distance for the massive tooling, I present this humble offering which actually makes a better hammer than a wrench, may all the monkeys who have busted knuckles with it Rest In Peace!
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:55 pm

☝️Professor Plum in the billiard room with the wrench!
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Duey_C » Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:17 am

Not a stupid upgrade Scott, those pins look nice. And easy to grab.
A friend has a no-nonsense press quite similar and it's used regularly in his 20's era paying shop. Nice pic Bryant!
Rich, send that ol' Monkey to me and I'll put it back in use. I'd be glad to have another to keep the NPRail wrench company.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Scott_Conger » Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:51 pm

Thank you Duane. You know, I bought the thing around 1985 from an old fellow, a local Model "A" guy... who said he NEVER had a use for it so it ought to go. Even though it was very flimsy, with excess testosterone, and a lack of real awareness of how badly this thing could hurt someone, I overused it probably weekly for the next 35+ years. I just got a wild hair to beef it up and now it really performs well (within it's capabilities) and doesn't try to pirouette or contort any more when I really apply the lumber to it. For the first time in 35+ years it is a real pleasure to use.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Craig Leach » Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:44 am

Rich, That is a much better adjustable open end hammer than a 12" Crescent wrench. Scott, I made my press out of some truck frame gloves & crossmembers. Hydraulic cylinder shafts & pistons. Cut up a old jack to make a adjustable stem. Bryant, that is impressive. I used one of those in a truck shop. Yes they will scare the heck out of you :o
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Re: Tool Time

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Re: Tool Time

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:46 pm

Bit of trivia you guys probably all know, but in the early days of the automobile, socket wrenches were a rarity, and the sets that were available, each size socket was made integral with a handle, usually a short "ell", sometimes a "tee". The Snap-On folks were among the first to offer sockets that would "snap on" to a variety of handles, hence the name !
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Re: Tool Time

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Here is an example Rich. (Photo courtesy of dobro1956)
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Re: Tool Time

Post by JohnM » Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:03 pm

Came in a tool box I bought at an auction.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by D Stroud » Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:58 am

Back in the mid/late '80's, I worked part time as a welder for a local heavy equipment contractor. The shop had a 50 or 60 ton press similar to that Manly press that was originally a hand pump affair. The resident head mechanic took a fuel injection pump from an OLD Caterpillar four cylinder diesel and plumbed it into the hydraulic system, plumbed in valves and lines to the cylinder ram, hooked it up to an electric motor, and had a hell of a press. That pump was unbelievably noisy, but it sure worked slick. I don't recall how much pressure it would make, but we never maxed it out or even made the motor pull down. Never seen another setup like it. Dave
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Mark Nunn » Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:26 am

Hey Dave Stroud, here are some photos of Stroud & Co. grading equipment from just up the road from you in Omaha. The grader photos are from 1917. The house/grading? thing was in Albert Lea MN in 1919. Maybe they are from some of your relatives?

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Re: Tool Time

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Re: Tool Time

Post by Kevin Pharis » Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:25 pm

^^^^^^^^^
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:27 pm

Sometimes you just need the right Tool for the right job!
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Post by Bryant » Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:29 pm

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I wonder what the swing on this one is? ;) Yup just a few more thou and she will be ready!
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Scott_Conger » Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:54 pm

One of several lathes set up for making carb parts
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Scott_Conger » Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:38 pm

Milling machines and precision drilling machine equipped with Albrecht chucks. These chucks would be an incredible extravagance if not for the fact that they are very reasonably priced eBay purchases which I refurbish to typically .0004" Max runout. My last and perhaps final chuck rebuild was for my Millrite milling machine.

Advice to anyone wishing to equip their machines with Albrecht chucks: NEVER chuck up a carbide bit into an Albrecht chuck. The jaws will not "bite" into the bit and the bit WILL spin in the jaws...do that more than once (or perhaps just once) and the designed precision of the chuck will be wiped out. In those instances, whip out the old stand-by Jacobs chuck for that sort of abuse.

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Re: Tool Time

Post by Kevin Pharis » Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:38 pm

That mill is waaaaay too clean Scott!😉

Mine usually has a 4’ radius DMZ around it🙄
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:33 am

Very nice fellas! Scott what brand of lathe is that? Kevin it looks like snow :lol:
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here is the one I visit often. Tried and true Bridgeport
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Post by Scott_Conger » Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:13 am

Bryant, it is a Southbend Model C (Workshop) lathe Ca 1962. It's my "new" lathe and was found in unused condition. It has a complete compliment of 3C collets and is fitted with a turret for manual production work (think float valves!). Due to its like-new condition it gets babied with mostly brass work. The other lathes do the heavy/dirty work.

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Post by Scott_Conger » Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:35 pm

Kind of a mundane thing, yet it's not something a person with a hobby-size press would necessarily think about...at least it took ME 35 years to realize these things were available! Last year I sprang for a set of ground steel press plates to replace the (dangerous) lumpy cast iron plates that came with this thing. They are wire EDM'd (I think) and are ground to within .001". It's wonderful to put a small part on the plate and know that things will go in true and not risk a cocked bushing due to the lousy original plates letting things rock and roll. Those plates and some upgrades I've done to the frame and ram have turned this cheapie press into a regular and better yet, precise work-horse.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by BHarper » Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:04 pm

Hi Scott,
Golly, those look nice. 👍
I, too, have found that low cost tools and equipment can, often, be upgraded to perform quite well. Expen$ive tools are often beyond my financial reach.
To be clear, I willingly admit that precision work to X ten thousandths of an inch can't be easily done with a rock and a stick, but the clever individual can do very good work
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Post by Scott_Conger » Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:57 pm

Bill

indeed, I agree 100%.

I've gone from a poor kid on less than a budget, to a guy too busy in an office to work in his shop, to a guy who is mildly indulgent on "toy" spending. That said, $3500 for the press I wanted was too rich for me given the other things I could spend it on...so this little press became my project.

Solid steel ram in a tubular guide gives precision; snap-in pushers are re-faceable and replaceable; taller and stouter legs increase capacity and golly, those plates...ooh-la-la! :lol:
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Post by Bryant » Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:13 pm

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Absolutely beautiful!!!
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Re: Tool Time

Post by mbowen » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:00 am

No sparks = machine not running = posed picture.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Lessumner » Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:28 am

Just received my new thumb saver hammer. Les
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Re: Tool Time

Post by TXGOAT2 » Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:19 am

Probably posed, but could be wet grinding at low speed.


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Re: Tool Time

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Something every auto restorer should own! A small hand held soda blaster. I’ve be using this on all kinds of small parts. Dose wonders on rusty old bolts. Won’t harm glass. And tastes good :lol: Love it!
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:01 pm

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brought this nice accessory home for the Atlas lathe. Nice Atlas tool post grinder. Iam going to attempt to weld up my steering column shaft then turn it down and finish with a grind.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Scott_Conger » Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:33 pm

Sweet

I'm sure you know to wrap up, mask off, mask up, social distance, quarantine, and otherwise protect that lathe while doing the grinding operation.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:08 pm

I gave it a good cover but it became problematic so I removed it because during the procedure the grindings seemed to favor flying out thru the shield onto the floor. So all went well ;)
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Re: Tool Time

Post by TXGOAT2 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:22 am

Grinding residue will do a lot of damage. A vacuum set up would help control the stuff.


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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:37 am

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received this repo crankcase locator tool for Christmas. Seems well made. Aluminum. First step in seeing how close my oil pan will be. Keeping my fingers crossed though my pan appears to be in very good shape.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Jim Bowery » Mon Jan 02, 2023 5:51 am

I have the same lathe. Mine came from a school shop class.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bryant » Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:41 pm

Hey great! I really like the Atlas. I would like to find a good reversible chuck though. Amongst a few other good attachments :)
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Re: Tool Time

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Re: Tool Time

Post by Michael Peternell » Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:10 pm

Did someone ask about tools?
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Post by Michael Peternell » Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:40 pm

Or was it something about tools?
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Scott_Conger » Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:00 pm

For aficionado's of the obscure and obsolete...

a set of taps/dies in fractional sizes starting at 1/16"

These are American National Standard and were considered obsoleted by the late 1930's and officially replaced with UN standard in 1949. While only different in size by around .0002", they are considered interchangeable (except for many fractional sizes which were dropped for numbered sizes). For instance, the 1/8-40 NS thread is now #5-40 UNC, but most small fractional sizes simply were dropped and the nearest # tap was inserted...an example is 3/32-48 NS, for which there is no equivalent UN tap/die.

Sets such as this are invaluable in the restoration of old precision automotive parts where threads are neither Metric nor UNC or UNF. Mint sets like this come along very infrequently, but insofar as they obsoleted so relatively soon after being made, they are often in pretty good shape...in this case, I don't think this set ever saw the light of day (in its day)
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Re: Tool Time

Post by BHarper » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:33 am

Hi Scott,

"For aficionado's of the obscure and obsolete..."

This is so delightfully arcane. 🤗
I appreciate the back story concerning the demise and discontinued use of certain sizes and their replacement with a size which is "pretty close" (🙄) and good enough.

More than a few times, when working on "some old thing", I've had to identify a bolt or machine screw. My thread gauge tells me the number per inch, but after measuring the OD of the fastener and consulting various screw thread tables in Machinery Handbook and other sources I find myself asking, out loud, "What the heck size is this thing?"

This reminds me of the mandated obsolescence of certain tire sizes and the appearance of Oversize 30 x 3 1/2 tires. 🤦‍♂️

Living here in New England I occasionally encounter products made by Greenfield Tap and Die, just down the road in Greenfield, Massachusetts.

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Re: Tool Time

Post by Bill Dizer » Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:47 pm

Greetings, Scott. I have a small collection of obscure taps and dies that I use in restoring antique bicycles, from the 1880’s and 90’s. There were few standard threads in use then, either in threads per inch or diameter. There were a number of manufacturers of bicycle t&d sets. Columbia high wheels usually had different size bolts but all were 18 threads per inch. One of my favorite sets has the taps tapered, so you can stop at the diameter you need. Years ago, I lucked into a diametric self opening die head with many of the spoke thread sizes that I use included. I like rolled threads better but they are nor possible on oddball sizes. The die head is adjustable for diameter, so I can fit the spokes to the holes. Using center less ground stainless blanks, and my lathe, I can make all the same threaded length which looks better. These are for radial spoked wheels.


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Re: Tool Time

Post by Scott_Conger » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:43 am

Interesting stuff, Bill

there are a few things that I make which would benefit greatly having a self-opening die stock on my lathe, but each time I'm tempted to spend the $$$, that run of parts is done for maybe a year. I look at eBay sometimes and just dream!
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Scott_Conger » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:27 pm

Biggest chuck ever, for the tiniest drill ever...

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Stromberg OF jet orifices...not much bigger than a grain of rice

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Re: Tool Time

Post by Scott_Conger » Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:22 pm

That last job had me sweating over possibly breaking the drill, so I made a custom finger-feed sensitive drill setup which works very well. Fit of arbor to socket is 100 millionths and is smooth as butter.


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Re: Tool Time

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:19 pm

Scott_Conger wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:22 pm
That last job had me sweating over possibly breaking the drill, so I made a custom finger-feed setup which works very well. Fit of arbor to socket is 100 millionths and is smooth as butter.



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100 millionths sounds so much more impressive than 1 tenth doesn't it? :lol: ;)


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Re: Tool Time

Post by Scott_Conger » Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:50 pm

Jerry

yes, it certainly do!

(but with 100, ya got a little +/- wiggle room) ;)

FWIW - I made a living for years lapping Gas Bearing Gyro's +/- .000003". Shafts straight and round; bores straight and round, and thrust plates flat. A fingerprint would fill the assembled gap and stop it from running... .0001" was cavernous in my world. Was interesting work and provided an excellent career, though at times horribly stressful. But now I just have fun.
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Re: Tool Time

Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:24 pm

While I don't mind using the hand shears, this one makes the job nice and fast. They cost 4 times what this one did 40 years ago. Like so many tools, I don't use it often but when I need it, it is pretty nice.
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