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Great stuff! One feature I found interesting was the two bearing crankshaft. I don't hear stories about them failing so they must have been fairly good.

Rich,

That's really interesting, I can't wait to get mine home and pull the pan!

I believe the 1920s-30s Farmall F tractors had 4 cylinder OHV engines with a 2-bearing crankshaft running in big ball or roller bearings. They worked very well.

Kentucky bound

Up and running, upholstery is next.

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Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:54 pm

I believe the 1920s-30s Farmall F tractors had 4 cylinder OHV engines with a 2-bearing crankshaft running in big ball or roller bearings. They worked very well.

You are correct! Big roller bearings

I'm certainly happy to see you have the Maxwell and have posted on the Maxwell site.
Another feature that shows contrast to the Model T at that time is the oil level indicator. A simple float in the pan moves a pointer.
Much easier than bending under to reach a petcock.
Also shown is Maxwell's version of the oil dips in the pan. I'm looking forward to more of your adventures.
Rich

Thank you Rich, does your Maxwell have timing gears lubricated by engine oil or do they have their own casing and oil? My '16 requires separate oiling for them.

That is an interesting question. The '16 engine I am using has a boss cast where my '15 engine has a pipe plug. I hadn't thought about it needing to be oiled separately. Have you seen anything in the literature about it? I can see I will soon be asking you the questions.
Rich
PS here are pictures of the timing gear housings. I don't see any obvious way of oiling. I will try to investigate as time permits.
Rich

This is very interesting…
Attached is an excerpt from the 1916 manual. I also misunderstood and thought that my car’s drain plug in the bottom is what the manual meant by a pipe plug. But now seeing your 1915 style motor I can see the filler plug it’s referring to in the top of the timing case. My 1916 engine lacks the top plug and has a steel oil pan.

Thanks for posting that Tad.
Part of the appeal of this forum is exchanging information. Tad's interest in his Maxwell has renewed my delight in mine as well as his. I had put mine aside to build 2 more Ts and rework a Buick. Now that I have caught up on some tasks, maybe I will do some more on my Maxwell. Bear with us. The Off Topic section may have appeal to others and is car related at least.
As it stands today. I see now that my '15 has the cast aluminum pan. The arrow points to its removable plug at front.
The bell housing (which was cracked) and transmission case are cast aluminum too rather than steel. Compared with my '16 and later pan. These discussions could well be conducted on the Maxwell site or the AACA one, but I watch this one more regularly that the others.
Model 25s are not prevalent anywhere. Yet thousands were made.
Much information can be applied to the Model T or in contrast to it being in the same era.
Rich

I, for one, am extremely interested in, and gratified by these excursions into the Model T's contemporaries. The variety of invention, notions of "style" and the history just amplify the Model T experience, and the patience, skill and craftsmanship of you fellers who essay to restore the "non-Fords" is always an inspiration !! It's lonely out there in "Nonfordlandia" !

I find this discussion very interesting, and it is definitely appropriate for this forum, being non T-related.

There is a '16 Maxwell for parts coming up for auction later this month. You will have 1 year to remove it.
https://bidnebraska.hibid.com/catalog/4 ... 2/?cpage=7

https://www.farmauction.net/auction/neb ... uck-hoard/

Thanks Mark. I hope it finds a good home. I wish my hood and fenders were that good.
There are still many out there.
Thanks for the positive responses to post Maxwell stuff.
Rich

Rich, your car is beautiful. I love that shiny engine! I agree, the Maxwell forum is nice and a good place to connect with other owners, but this forum gets a lot more traffic, which helps spread information.

I found this spark plug for Maxwells, it’d be neat to find a set!

VERY neat thread! Spreading information is crucial! I try to in another world for my brand.
Mark, that is a stunning photo of very nice sun-baked NE tin on that Maxwell.

Here’s a copy from Marylands Frederick News Post
December 3,1914 My Great Great grandfather bought a car and they put it in the news paper. Yesterday’s social media? my contribution to the Maxwell thread
Bryant

In 1914 it might have been big news to buy a car in 1914. That's a pretty neat clipping to have. A "large five passenger Maxwell automobile" might have been the "50-6" or the "35-4" rather than the Model 25. That "25-4" was as different from the later 25s as the Model S ford was to the Model T Ford. I have remains of both and see no parts that are the same, one compared to the other. This dealer would have been about that time. "Maxwell Motor Car Agency, Charles H. Rockwell, agent... located at 120 South Los Angeles Street (later Anaheim Blvd.), with a 1914 Maxwell Messenger Roadster and Touring car parked in front; "1914 Maxwell".
Thanks for posting that.
Rich

Speaking of the model 35-4, our old friend, the late Stan Howe had this one. It may have been a '12. I miss going to his web site to see it but saved some pictures of it. I didn't hear where it went and thought about buying it in a weak moment.
Here is a similar one on the AACA site. A 1913.
https://forums.aaca.org/topic/279796-fs ... odel-35-4/
They would have been more powerful, but parts would be harder to find as fewer were sold from what I hear.

Rich, what all did you have to do to your KD carburetor? I have been driving the Maxwell and fighting with this little carb.

I just took it apart and cleaned it. It worked just fine after fiddling with the needle adjustment. I don't learn much from things that work.

Huh, my choke control is on the opposite side, and my mixture control is different as well (It's the little things). I will try adjusting the float, or maybe replacing it since it is old cork, and try a Zenith-1 I have on the shelf to compare.

Thank you for all the help with the Maxwell and Splitdorf plugs Mr. Eagle. Here’s hoping to meet one day yet.