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Post by Herb Iffrig » Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:17 am

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Two photos of 1912 REO trucks. The newer photo is my friend Jim Krauts truck.

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Post by Rich Eagle » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:31 pm

Those are the best. We had this one in Pocatello years ago. They claimed it was 1 cylinder. I would have thought 2. I was smitten for several years by the 2 cylinder REOs and gathered parts for one until I bought my Buick.
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Post by Kaiser » Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:09 am

Those little REO trucks are simply adorable !
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Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:24 am

They certainly are wonderful. Here is a 2017 post showing some of them including Gary Hammond's replica:
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Post by Duey_C » Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:12 am

Leo, you might get the intention of this. Dale used to run the Jeffrey quad truck thru his four wheel steering paces in the parades.
Smooth four cylinder, Wisconsin? engine. Dale at the controls, me on the mic...
There's a Jeffrey hiding close by. :)
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:03 am

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Post by Kaiser » Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:42 am

Duey i really like those FWD and Quads, there are a small number of them around still on our side of the pond, left behind in 1918, most are FWDs, a Quad is rare as hens teeth,
The FWD is a more 'normal' truck technically speaking with differentials and axles sort of like we still use today, but the Quad is a very interesting piece of original engineering for its day, it has 'dead' axles with the differentials on top delivering power to the wheel by an early 'portal axle' concept not unlike todays Unimogs.
I never saw one up close in real life and i imagine i could spend a whole day under one 'looking up its skirt' to find out the details of that drive system it i ever get the chance :D
Here's some footage of one that is in the collection of the Texas based Pioneer Flight Museum:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux-PBa-HQgg

The very few times i found a Quad that was for sale it was WAY above my budget, and buying a wreck is not an option as you will have to fabricate every missing part because the sparepart situation is nonexistant :roll:
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:02 am

That one is not familiar to me. Any Ideas? Burlington Route? WWI?
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Post by HornsRus » Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:18 pm

the name is right there under the rad ,but cant get it. charley

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Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:37 pm

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Post by Jim_PTC_GA » Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:19 am

This has become my favorite thread. I can get lost in the photos and the stories they tell for hours. So much to see.

Thank you for this

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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:47 pm

FWIW: Flugzeug Beforderung = airplane; the aircraft/transportation, conveyance. Obviously German
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:02 pm

Here is a 1916 Autocar Truckvideo

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Post by Burger in Spokane » Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:07 am

I came into a pile of photos of Denver Gas & Electric Light Co. trucks:

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More people are doing it today than ever before !

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Post by HornsRus » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:29 am

# 3 i think is olds,the others are whites.charley


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Post by Rich Eagle » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:15 pm

How, quite a load and trailer.

Another Baker fully loaded.
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Post by Dallas Landers » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:25 pm

Wish they made a tailgate that good now Rich!


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Post by perry kete » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:51 am

Herb,
Great truck picture. I bet the tarp weighs as much as the truck! I hope it doesn't blow off when he winds the truck up into high gear! :roll: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Rich Eagle » Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:14 pm

That is an enormous spotlight there too.
I believe it is another Peerless.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:01 pm

American LaFrance and others built tractors to pull steam powered pumping engines previously pulled by horses. The first photo is one I saw in parades during the '60s. I was impressed by the chain driven front wheels and the ingenious design to drive and steer them.
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These photos were of the mechanisms of ones in the Rithie Clyne Museum in Vegas.
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Post by Jim_PTC_GA » Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:32 am

That looks like a very nice set of steps on the back of the Traveling Grocery truck.

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Post by Kaiser » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:44 am

Rich, that is an intriguing setup, did not know them, knew these:
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Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:52 am

I had forgotten those Knox-Martin units. They are fantastic.
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Post by Dallas Landers » Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:08 pm

I bet the conversation was the chief to the 1st officer, " you know its missing a wheel, right"

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Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:46 pm

I posted this photo elsewhere of the line-up of Ahrens-Fox trucks at the Richie Clyne museum. Their "chromed sphere above the pump held air and smoothed the outgoing pressure fluctuations from the piston pump". (Wikipedia) As I recall there were 6 or 7 but I didn't get them all in the picture.
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Post by Kaiser » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:53 am

How about this one !
I have no clue what it is but what a monster, that must have been some beast to handle , look at the size of that steeringwheel :o
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Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:49 am

Interesting! Self-propelled Amoskeag Steam Fire Engine from what I can find.
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I have seen photos of similar ones with the man on the rear clutching a lever and wondered if he was controlling the throttle of brake.
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:43 pm

Now that is cool.

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Post by dlmyers » Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:15 am

Jay Leno's 1916 Autocar truck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d0-D7II4lo
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Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:29 pm

We had a couple of those Autocar truck chassis in our area in the 60s. They had been made into wagons. There were no engines but we often thought of trying to piece one together. There must have been hubcaps or data plates because we knew they were Autocar.
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Post by 46woodduck » Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:37 am

Kaiser, the big steering wheel is just early power steering.
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:23 pm

Well I got to thinking today and I thought about revisiting this story about my Grandfathers truck:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/50 ... 1448119649

It turns out that I found out more since the story was told the first time.
I told my uncle who had sold the truck to the family I bought it back from that I had it. He replied that he was there the day grandpa bought the truck in 1948. It was bought used about a quarter mile up the road from where I live, from my dad's uncle Hubert Iffrig. It is now from both sides of my family.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:08 am

That is such a great story. Thanks for reminding us.
My Grandfather had a 1935 Ford truck that was kept in the family for years. I had custody of it for a time. I'll see if there are any photos around of it.
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:03 pm

How about a Mack truck?
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Post by perry kete » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:22 am

Love the truck but how do you know his name is MACK?
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Post by Rich Eagle » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:02 am

Perry, if you drove a truck that ugly would you use your real name?

I believe the license plate is a Cal 1920. (Com)
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Post by Kaiser » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:10 am

Thomas here in Holland we call that "ellebogenstoom" or 'elbow steam' :lol:
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Post by Rich Eagle » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:49 am

Those are some crazy wheels aren't they?
Kenworth 1920 +/-. The KW on the radiator might be enhanced for the photo.
I see where Kenworth celebrated 90 years in 2013.
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Post by Dallas Landers » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:59 am

2 speed rear axle short shift lever? The headlights look ablout like T lights with cool mounts. Great detail photo.

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Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:35 am

These two White trucks have quite the loads. A typical Goodyear Diamond Tread tire adorns the radiator.
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Post by perry kete » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:41 am

And only one chain holding that large load on!
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:52 am

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I don't know if this one has been on here before, but here it is.
There is a lot of character in this photo. Right Rich? Wink wink.

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Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:17 pm

It is delightful. Could that be a Martin Perry body Dallas? Wink wink wink.
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Post by Dallas Landers » Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:23 pm

Looks like it Rich.
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The fenders resemble these. A larger version of the slip on bed.
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Post by A Whiteman » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:39 pm

This one is a little newer - (1960's). Loading logs in the bush - who needs a crane or loader?
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Post by Rich Eagle » Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:02 am

Woodward & Lothrop's Department Store, Washington, D.C., 1912 from one source.
This from another.
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:28 pm

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Richard did you feel the earthquake in Idaho yesterday?

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Post by Rich Eagle » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:03 pm

Wow! What a great photo. Some of my favorite things.
I didn't feel the Quake. Joy was on the phone talking to our Daughter in Boise at the time and she (our daughter) was feeling it.
The White truck has acetylene light forks with electrics adapted to them. Typical for those years. Probably a Model 20 White.
The motorcycle is probably an Indian. The front leaf doesn't show well here but it's brace does.
Cool photo, perhaps 1924 or so.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:53 am

These were my first venture into the truck world.
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Yep, that's me in the Chevron uniform on break. I purchased the pair for $250, half of my Summer salary, in 1966. The previous owner wanted the wrecker frame back for scrap. That is a TT rear end that winds the cable via a Ford ('36?) transmission mounted behind the White transmission. Idling both in low the vehicle barely moved. The wrecker had been Bus 199 in Yellowstone Park in 1923.
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Post by Dallas Landers » Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:03 pm

Rich, you have been a very sick man for many years. Glad to see your not getting over it! :D

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Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:21 pm

Thanks Dallas.
I haven't really recovered but have pretty much run out of space. Folks still drop stuff off on their way to the dump. You know how it is.
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Post by Dallas Landers » Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:25 pm

I do, I really do ! Gotta love it. I could spend alot of time in your back yard dreaming.

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Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:22 pm

Well I spend plenty of time in the back yard dreaming.
As parts are where you find them I picked up a 3rd Monster which had been made into a buckrake. It came in handy as it had been a Bus too. In particular the rear axle shafts were good in this one. The shafts had been twisted in the wrecker and the bigger truck had a different axle.
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Some traveling fabricators passed through the Dillon, Mt area and converted dozens of White Park Buses and big Buicks into these machines during the depression when farm equipment was hard to get.
I thought I had too much stuff until I visited a guy in Northern MT that had 22 of these chassis. Half or more were from the Dillon area. At one point he offered them to me. :o
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:04 am

Rick could we see a photo of one of the busses?

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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:47 am

Certainly Herb. These two are about 50 buses off each way from my #199 Bus.
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This was taken from the top of the YPC transportation building in Gardner, MT.
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:41 pm

Were they White or Yellow?

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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:06 pm

I borrowed this from the Tenwheel site. They were sometimes a little bit more bronze than this. The YPC rotated them through the paint shop almost continually I am told. The thickness of the remaining paint on mine wass proof of that.
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Re: This was trucking-Old Photos

Post by Dallas Landers » Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:10 pm

Not an old photo but this was trucking.
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Post by dlmyers » Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:22 pm

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This 1920 ad is listed on ebay now.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:17 pm

That is great to see. I don't remember those.
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School bus at Antique Powerland in Oregon.
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Post by Dallas Landers » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:12 am

Thats a real T! Look at the oil under it!

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Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:15 am

Beautiful!
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:54 am

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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:02 am

Are the Ladies the Baggage?
Those round hubs make me wonder if it is a Jewett like Stan showed us in this thread.
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Post by Bob McDaniel » Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:11 am

I only saw 2 Indiana's so had to post mine for the ones that have not seen it before.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:00 pm

Nice restoration Bob. It looks great!

I ran across pictures of our local Nash Quad. Joe was encouraged to go recover this abandon truck. It was frozen to the ground but we managed to free it. Joe did quite a bit of work on it. Finally another fellow took interest and claimed it had been in the Family since it was new. The new owner did a nice restoration on it and it has been to several of our shows since.
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:02 pm

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Post by Dallas Landers » Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:14 pm

Can you Imagine seeing this for the 1st time? Wheres the horse? Whats that noise? How does it go?
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Post by Dallas Landers » Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:25 pm

I really like the Indiana Bob !

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Re: This was trucking-Old Photos

Post by Herb Iffrig » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:35 am

Dallas the photo says it is a Sampson truck.
Here is the rest of the photo.
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Re: This was trucking-Old Photos

Post by HPetrino » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:09 pm

That's a really net looking rig. Why do each of them have 3 axles with one in the center? For that matter, why are the center wheels larger than the others? Seems odd to me but I suppose there was a good reason at the time.


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Post by Dallas Landers » Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:25 pm

The large wheels with lugs are drive wheels? Maybe the two rear units are unfinished trucks? They appear to have the same setup. Wonder if front and rear wheels are steer axles? Very interesting !

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Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:56 pm

Shorpy photos are the best. This one is clear enough to see the striping on the frame. The Adlake side lamps and radiator shocks are typical of the White Trucks.
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Yes, it looks like it's ready for the spare tire.
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Re: This was trucking-Old Photos

Post by Herb Iffrig » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:54 pm

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What is this one?

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Post by HornsRus » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:31 pm

reo speedwagon about 1917. charley


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Re: This was trucking-Old Photos

Post by Poppie » Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:21 am

Herb I,
I would say that your three times Three axle monsters are electric powered.
You will notice two steering wheels one on top of the other, one for direction and the other for the voltage / current control into the electric motors of each of the three wheel unit.
you car also see cables hanging between the first and second unit.....N.


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Post by Herb Iffrig » Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:18 am

Neil I too wondered about what looked like two steering wheels. Thank you for your input.


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Re: This was trucking-Old Photos

Post by Herb Iffrig » Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:19 am

I'm going to call this a tractor trailer. Wouldn't you?
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Post by A Whiteman » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:16 am

Ouch, Wellington NZ, 1950:
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:33 am

This one looks to be put together.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:04 pm

It certainly is. The TT chassis looks familiar but I can't tell what cowl that Ford firewall is grafted into. Buicks and Overlands had rounded ones but the windshield doesn't match what I have seen. It looks a lot like a Maxwell windshield but not the cowl. I'll bet that dump bed got a lot of use.
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