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Fue pump Question

Post by lorenzo26 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:48 pm

Can i use a low presure small engine pulse system on my 22 engine to get fuel to go thru a filter ?
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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by Scott_Conger » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:19 pm

There is an alternative to a filter which will do what you really want, but didn't ask for. With that in mind, and relatively certain that you are intent on having a pump, here is something to chew on: viewtopic.php?t=3167
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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by Allan » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:27 pm

The question arises as to why you need a filter? If it is to filter out rubbish in the fuel system, pressurising the fuel to push it through a pile of rubbish is really not the answer.

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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by Steve Jelf » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:43 pm

What Allan said. The real solution is to clean your tank, or if it's in bad shape get a new one. Adding complexity often adds new trouble.
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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by lorenzo26 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:56 am

i do not want to push junk ,just to filter the gas so it does not get to the carb. [[the set up -- from the tank to a filter to a pump and then to the carburator]]] the tank is not too far gone just to be on the safe side
just wondering if anyone has used a pulse pump and any luck with it .thank u Lorenzo

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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by TRDxB2 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:58 am

Whats wrong with the filter in your sediment bulb?
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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by Mark Gregush » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:27 am

When I had my Chevrolet overhead installed I had to use a downdraft carb so needed a pump because of under seat tank.
Not sure what pump you are thinking about, but the Carter 6 volt pump I used ran all the time and was a pretty good draw on the battery/generator. Even the so called low pressure pumps put out more then the Ford stock or aftermarket carburetors can handle or need so then you need a regulator. If you must run an extra filter, one of the gravity feed lawn mower types should be fine (just keep it away form the exhaust pipe), but if there is so much crud in the tank that an extra filter is needed, pump or gravity, you can still end up by the side of the road when something plugs up.
Don't forget there are two flushing drains on the T, at the tank and carburetor.
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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:35 am

A question to consider when contemplating a fuel pump: Why do most T's run well without one?
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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by Scott_Conger » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:45 am

Lorenzo

you have asked twice about pulse pumps. I have already supplied a link that has a good discussion on that. Have you read it???
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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by Charlie B in N.J. » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:57 am

If you're after a pump that's one thing however if it's just filtering you want go to a mower shop and get an in-line filter for a gravity fed system. Most riding mowers are gravity fuel fed. I have used this type of filter for quite a while with no problems.
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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by TRDxB2 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:14 am

Charlie B in N.J. wrote:
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If you're after a pump that's one thing however if it's just filtering you want go to a mower shop and get an in-line filter for a gravity fed system. Most riding mowers are gravity fuel fed. I have used this type of filter for quite a while with no problems.
I looked into using a lawn mower filter. The labeling mentioned "for horsepower xx" or "with fuel pump" both looked like the attached photo of the red one. Then I looked into K&N having one of the best reputation for filters and saw a similar one that indicated a high flow rate. The price difference $4 vs $10. Both have the same screen surface area as the brass screen in the sediment bulb but may have a difference in screen mesh size. The K&N is clear so one can see inside.
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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by John Codman » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:46 am

Two comments - FWIW almost all John Deere lawn tractors have a small vacuum-operated pump for the fuel. It is common for the fuel level to be below the carburetor float bowl.
Second, it has been my experience that the screen in the sediment bowl will plug up before the carburetor cruds up. Ask me how I know.

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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:58 pm

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It won't hurt to use one of these. No pump needed. If your tank has enough crud to overwhelm this, you need to fix or replace the tank.

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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by lorenzo26 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:37 pm

Scot I deid read it,- Steve jeff i think this is the best option for me
Thank you all for the great info Lorenzo


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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by Stephen_heatherly » Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:23 pm

Take the pump and filter off and clean your tank thoroughly. You won't have any more trouble after that.

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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by Tim Rogers » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:33 pm

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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by Charlie B in N.J. » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:05 pm

They have larger in-line filters than the ones you pictured. They are for smaller engines. As for those in tank screens: you can't get 'em out easily. Pass on that as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: Fue pump Question

Post by TRDxB2 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:26 am

Charlie B in N.J. wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:05 pm
They have larger in-line filters than the ones you pictured. They are for smaller engines. As for those in tank screens: you can't get 'em out easily. Pass on that as far as I'm concerned.
Correct about the red one and similar red ones are for lawn mowers and low HP engines. The K&N filter shown above per K&N "The K&N 81-0241 In-Line Gas Filter is perfect for racing applications and can be used with a variety of oils and fuels including methanol. The 81-0241 stainless mesh in-line fuel filter has a flange diameter of 5/16 inches. It comes with a 1.55 inch body diameter by 1-3/4 inch overall length"
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