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Tire questions
Ok i know there are a lot of opinions but I am looking for answers please
First of all I drive my model t's on tours, they are drivers not show cars
First question what is a good clincher tire for my 1919 that will last, experience and price and where to buy.
Does anybody rub one of the new 21 inch radials from coker and do you need a radial tube with these coker does not say.
I know this is kind of a what oil do you run question but I am looking for honest opinions.
First of all I drive my model t's on tours, they are drivers not show cars
First question what is a good clincher tire for my 1919 that will last, experience and price and where to buy.
Does anybody rub one of the new 21 inch radials from coker and do you need a radial tube with these coker does not say.
I know this is kind of a what oil do you run question but I am looking for honest opinions.
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Re: Tire questions
You will not beat this deal anywhere. A good touring tire at a fair price, and always free shipping. If you have demountables and use 30x3 1/2 all around this is the bargain basement.
https://www.summitracing.com/search/dep ... =part-type
https://www.summitracing.com/search/dep ... =part-type
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Re: Tire questions
Scott i see for instance a wards clincher tire for 155.00 at Snyders what else you are saying is inline and thanks for your reply. Is the wards tire not a very good tire?
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Re: Tire questions
All high pressure clincher tires are made in Viet Nam - no matter the name brand. It's mostly a personal choice for tread design & cost.
A friend is running the new 21" radial & is very satisfied with the ride.
A friend is running the new 21" radial & is very satisfied with the ride.
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Re: Tire questions
I'm a bit surprised by that link. I believe all the clincher tires come from the same source, and that the only differences among them are name and appearance, not quality, and that if one wears better than any others it's due to tread design. (I'm thinking of NON SKID tread, which I've heard wears faster than other designs.) Am I wrong? If not, if I'm right, and all the clincher tires are different only in name and appearance, then the Wards tires from Lucas are the best deal. Even with the cost of shipping, I expect they beat Summit's $203.
Is there such a thing as a 21" radial clincher? I've never heard of that. Or is that question about a different car with balloon tires?
PS I just pretended I was going to buy a tire from Lucas. Shipping to me would be $30. YMMV.
Is there such a thing as a 21" radial clincher? I've never heard of that. Or is that question about a different car with balloon tires?
PS I just pretended I was going to buy a tire from Lucas. Shipping to me would be $30. YMMV.
The inevitable often happens.
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Re: Tire questions
Well, I sure do stand corrected. It looks like Summit is about the best for Firestone with delivery, but even with delivery charges, the Wards is a lot cheaper and I can recommend them from a touring perspective. Wear is not as good as I'd like, but they will grip in the rain and give a decent ride. As far as wear, though, they all probably wear about the same.
Mea culpa! Should have done my homework or at least had an adult look at it...
Mea culpa! Should have done my homework or at least had an adult look at it...
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Re: Tire questions
To even consider a radial tire on a T and to avoid premature wear, one would need to bend crap out of the front axle, every thing needs to be zero, toe, camber and caster.
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Re: Tire questions
Has Coker run through another price increase? Like in the past, the Summit price is the same as the price listed on Coker's web site.
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Re: Tire questions
Until the new Blockley tyres are available, there are no T model clincher tyres which last an acceptable mileage. Some may last long enough for their purchase price the forgotten, but they will almost certainly be un-useanle due to sidewall cracking
Until the distributors upgrade their specifations for longer lasting harder wearing materials, your search will be futile.
When I have to buy new tyres, they will be Blockleys. I can see no reason to patronize the supploers/makers of the rubbish currently available.
Allan from down under.
Until the distributors upgrade their specifations for longer lasting harder wearing materials, your search will be futile.
When I have to buy new tyres, they will be Blockleys. I can see no reason to patronize the supploers/makers of the rubbish currently available.
Allan from down under.
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Re: Tire questions
I just made the mistake of buying a 21 inch tire from Langs.
It didn't show up on the original invoice which also had tube, flaps and front wheel seals on it.
The tire invoice showed up the next day with the tire and a $40 shipping charge?
It said dropped shipped which I think means that it probably came from the west cost.
No tracking? so I don't know when it will arrive.
It hasn't arrived yet so I won't know where it was shipped from until I see the box.
Should have used Summit. same tire from the same place probably with no shipping charge.
When I bought my 30x3 1/2 tires I use Summit and bought the tubes from Lucas which were much cheaper. Same tube lower price.
I originally tried to use Snyders as it is closer but couldn't resolve their
log in process (loop) so I went to Langs.
It didn't show up on the original invoice which also had tube, flaps and front wheel seals on it.
The tire invoice showed up the next day with the tire and a $40 shipping charge?
It said dropped shipped which I think means that it probably came from the west cost.
No tracking? so I don't know when it will arrive.
It hasn't arrived yet so I won't know where it was shipped from until I see the box.
Should have used Summit. same tire from the same place probably with no shipping charge.
When I bought my 30x3 1/2 tires I use Summit and bought the tubes from Lucas which were much cheaper. Same tube lower price.
I originally tried to use Snyders as it is closer but couldn't resolve their
log in process (loop) so I went to Langs.
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Re: Tire questions
A few words of caution about tubes. There was a run of Custom Classic tubes (India) that were prone to cracking. I don't know if any of them are still in the supply chain. So far I've had no trouble with Hartfords (China). When ordering tubes I would ask what brand they are, and if the answer is Custom Classic I would go to another dealer and buy Hartfords, even if that means getting the tires and tubes from different sources.
The inevitable often happens.
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Re: Tire questions
Steve J. - the 21" radial I referred to above was on a Ford wire wheel '26 P/U.
John - I've never had a tire arrived boxed - just wrapped in plastic sheeting.
John - I've never had a tire arrived boxed - just wrapped in plastic sheeting.
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Re: Tire questions
I have never heard of Blockley tires so thanks for the heads up sidewall splitting is what I have seen.
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I have never heard of Blockley tires so thanks for the heads up sidewall splitting is what I have seen.
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Re: Tire questions
Wards Riverside tires with free shipping=-
https://www.performanceplustire.com/ant ... blackwall/
Note- I have no experience with this supplier
https://www.performanceplustire.com/ant ... blackwall/
Note- I have no experience with this supplier
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Ron
you just did the community an enormous service with that information. That is one really great deal.
you just did the community an enormous service with that information. That is one really great deal.
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Re: Tire questions
Performance Tire located on Cherry in Long Beach is a supporter of the Model Club. The Long Beach club has helped them out with their Thanksgiving charity event in recent years. I have purchased from them and also Lucas which is very close as well. The tubes from Lucas are the absolute best deal of the Year!! I've always used non Skids on the front of my '12 just because of the tread pattern and suffer the short wearability just for show.
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