Permatex #2 sealant
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules
-
Topic author - Posts: 14
- Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:17 am
- First Name: Melchior
- Last Name: Pons
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1916 speedster
- Location: Amsterdam
Permatex #2 sealant
I was reading an old post from 2016 about using Permatex - but I could not find the answer. Gasket sealant was used on my engine (oil pan, transmission housing), but I cannot recall on which side of the gaskets it was applied? Do you apply it on both sides of the gasket? IMHO it would make sense to have a leakfree engine.
Any ideas?
thanks!
Any ideas?
thanks!
-
- Posts: 5339
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:09 am
- First Name: Henry
- Last Name: Lee
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: Many
- Location: South Pittsburg, TN
- MTFCA Number: 479
- MTFCA Life Member: YES
Re: Permatex #2 sealant
I normally use a contact cement on one side and the Permatex on the other side. In some situations like the felt on the hogs head attachment area, I use contact cement (weather stripping adhesive) and ultra gray or black on the hogs head side. No leaks. Using that soft set Permatex on threads works well too but don’t over do it.
Hope this Helps,
Hank
Hope this Helps,
Hank
-
- Posts: 1033
- Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:32 am
- First Name: Leo
- Last Name: van Stirum
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 Huckster, '66 CJ5 daily driver
- Location: Netherlands
- Board Member Since: 2016
Re: Permatex #2 sealant
What Hank said, Permatex is great stuff but should be used sparingly, if it squeezes out in blobs it is also squeezing out inside in big blobs, as Permatex does not fully harden but keeps a 'rubbery' consistency it is very possible that the 'blobs' come loose and block oil passages.
Best way is to put a light coat of it on both sides of the gasket, just thick enough so the gasket material does not shine through, leave to dry for a couple of minutes before mounting.
If you want to remove the sealed cover (say your pancover) occasionally for inspection, degrease one surface (the cover side) thoroughly and smear the other ( pan side) lightly with oil, then stick the on both sides permatexed gasket to the cover and then mount the cover to the pan, that way it will seal good and sticks to the cover when you open it, and comes off without ruining the gasket so it can be used again.
Best way is to put a light coat of it on both sides of the gasket, just thick enough so the gasket material does not shine through, leave to dry for a couple of minutes before mounting.
If you want to remove the sealed cover (say your pancover) occasionally for inspection, degrease one surface (the cover side) thoroughly and smear the other ( pan side) lightly with oil, then stick the on both sides permatexed gasket to the cover and then mount the cover to the pan, that way it will seal good and sticks to the cover when you open it, and comes off without ruining the gasket so it can be used again.
When in trouble, do not fear, blame the second engineer !
Leo van Stirum, Netherlands
'23 Huckster, '66 CJ5 daily driver
Leo van Stirum, Netherlands
'23 Huckster, '66 CJ5 daily driver
-
- Posts: 3327
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:56 am
- First Name: Dan
- Last Name: Treace
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: '23 cutoff, '25 touring, '27 touring
- Location: North Central FL
- MTFCA Number: 4838
- MTFCI Number: 115
- Board Member Since: 2000
- Contact:
Re: Permatex #2 sealant
Have always used Permatex 2 on T engine gaskets for over 50 years, nothing better IMO. And coating both sides of the gasket too. If un-even metal surfaces a dab more in the obvious depressions before aligning the gasket.
Been in use since 1918 and lots of T motors got leaks fixed that way from just cup grease on cork or felt
Been in use since 1918 and lots of T motors got leaks fixed that way from just cup grease on cork or felt
The best way is always the simplest. The attics of the world are cluttered up with complicated failures. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford
-
Topic author - Posts: 14
- Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:17 am
- First Name: Melchior
- Last Name: Pons
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1916 speedster
- Location: Amsterdam
Re: Permatex #2 sealant
Thanks guys!
This really helps.
Have a save and healthy weekend.
This really helps.
Have a save and healthy weekend.
-
- Posts: 607
- Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:00 pm
- First Name: Gene
- Last Name: Carrothers
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1912 Torpedo Roadster
- Location: Huntington Beach, Ca
- MTFCA Number: 22905
- MTFCI Number: 23068
- Board Member Since: 1999
Re: Permatex #2 sealant
Hate to say it Dan but I disagree with your comment about the permatex. In my opinion after 50 years they have made some real improvements and the Ultra Black is one of them. The #1 and #2 were great products but most find many advantages to either the Right Stuff or my preference the Ultra Black for sealing oil leaks and also a hundred other uses where a flexible strong adhesive is needed.
YMMV IMHO
YMMV IMHO
1912 Torpedo Roadster
-
- Posts: 1033
- Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:32 am
- First Name: Leo
- Last Name: van Stirum
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 Huckster, '66 CJ5 daily driver
- Location: Netherlands
- Board Member Since: 2016
Re: Permatex #2 sealant
Gene, you are right in a way, the two you mention are stronger adhesives, and are a great fix if you have problems with pitting or alignment of surfaces, and in some spots like the corner where hogshead and pan and block meet you often have a spot where the stronger stuff is a good fix, but if everything has a reasonably good fit all you need is a light coating of any of the above products to give a good and oiltight seal.
For my taste i like to use the not so heavy duty stuff if i can get away with it, as it makes for easier dismantling, for inevetably once comes the day that you have to take your beloved T apart again to fix a problem
For my taste i like to use the not so heavy duty stuff if i can get away with it, as it makes for easier dismantling, for inevetably once comes the day that you have to take your beloved T apart again to fix a problem
Last edited by Kaiser on Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
When in trouble, do not fear, blame the second engineer !
Leo van Stirum, Netherlands
'23 Huckster, '66 CJ5 daily driver
Leo van Stirum, Netherlands
'23 Huckster, '66 CJ5 daily driver
-
- Posts: 1033
- Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:32 am
- First Name: Leo
- Last Name: van Stirum
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 Huckster, '66 CJ5 daily driver
- Location: Netherlands
- Board Member Since: 2016
Re: Permatex #2 sealant
This is not turning in one of those MMO or waterpump threads or is it
Have a good weekend all !
Have a good weekend all !
When in trouble, do not fear, blame the second engineer !
Leo van Stirum, Netherlands
'23 Huckster, '66 CJ5 daily driver
Leo van Stirum, Netherlands
'23 Huckster, '66 CJ5 daily driver
-
- Posts: 6435
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:18 am
- First Name: Scott
- Last Name: Conger
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: '13, '15, '19, '23
- Location: Clark, WY
- Board Member Since: 2005
Re: Permatex #2 sealant
Leo
it won't, because everyone knows MMO works for what you use it on, and gasket goop is just a preference
it won't, because everyone knows MMO works for what you use it on, and gasket goop is just a preference
Scott Conger
Tyranny under the guise of law is still Tyranny
NH Full Flow Float Valves
Obsolete carburetor parts manufactured
Tyranny under the guise of law is still Tyranny
NH Full Flow Float Valves
Obsolete carburetor parts manufactured
-
- Posts: 1015
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:36 pm
- First Name: Adrian
- Last Name: Whiteman
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 TT, 1924 Colonial Roadster, 1924 'Bullnose' Morris, 1925 'Bullnose' Morris, 1936 JD AR
- Location: South Island, New Zealand
Re: Permatex #2 sealant
Remember not to tighten things up right away. Let the goop 'sit and set' a bit before final tightening.
Why? because you will squeeze it out if you go to full tightening right away and then have no benefit. But don't forget to go back and tighten properly before final assembly!
Remember not to put it on too thick, that just leaves a lot of lumps that can fall off and block things internally.
Why? because you will squeeze it out if you go to full tightening right away and then have no benefit. But don't forget to go back and tighten properly before final assembly!
Remember not to put it on too thick, that just leaves a lot of lumps that can fall off and block things internally.