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Re: Unknown starter
Tried to do a Google search came up nada! Lots of electric motor starter relays however!
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!
1925 Cut down pickup
1920 Dodge touring
1948 Ford F2 pickup
1925 Cut down pickup
1920 Dodge touring
1948 Ford F2 pickup
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Re: Unknown starter
Does it have mounting holes in the gear end of the motor or?
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Re: Unknown starter
yes ,mounting holes in gear end
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Re: Unknown starter
Randall,
Look for an engine with a helical cut ring gear on the flywheel and you will be getting close. ....N.
Look for an engine with a helical cut ring gear on the flywheel and you will be getting close. ....N.
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Re: Unknown starter
If you can get access to a Dyke's Manual for the "teens", there is usually a chart that lists the make of generator/starters for each popular car. Westinghouse systems were used on several cars but it may be difficult to narrow down the exact car that this particular one was used on unless you can get access to parts books for each car. The Dyke's that I have (1919) shows Westinghouse systems used on everything from American Beauty, Case,
Cunningham, Maxwell, etc to Pierce Arrow and Singer.
Cunningham, Maxwell, etc to Pierce Arrow and Singer.
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Re: Unknown starter
Figures 488 & 489 below show some information on the Westinghouse system, from Automotive Electricity 1925.
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dl ... stinghouse
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dl ... stinghouse
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Re: Unknown starter
How early would the starter be. Did early cars in the early teens or earlier have them? Ford was an innovator so it must be sometime in the early era of T’s. Ford didn’t have them till 19.
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Re: Unknown starter
That Westinghouse starter motor is from the mid 20's, they had earlier magnetic pinion shift starting motors in the 'teens, one from 1913 is a much larger square housing, and separate magnetic shift box.
1913 Brook's Handbook.
Don't know date of first starter, some were air, and the early electric makers were Bijur, Bosch, Rushmore, Northeast, Remy, Wagner, Gray and Davis, Dyneto, Delco, and Autolight. Most were direct to flywheel some to crank, then along came Mr. Bendix and things changed as to drive mechanism.
1913 Brook's Handbook.
Don't know date of first starter, some were air, and the early electric makers were Bijur, Bosch, Rushmore, Northeast, Remy, Wagner, Gray and Davis, Dyneto, Delco, and Autolight. Most were direct to flywheel some to crank, then along came Mr. Bendix and things changed as to drive mechanism.
The best way is always the simplest. The attics of the world are cluttered up with complicated failures. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford