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Post by Randall strickland » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:33 pm

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Re: Unknown starter

Post by Mark Gregush » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:02 pm

Tried to do a Google search came up nada! Lots of electric motor starter relays however! ;)
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

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Re: Unknown starter

Post by John kuehn » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:48 pm

Does it have mounting holes in the gear end of the motor or?


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Re: Unknown starter

Post by Randall strickland » Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:01 pm

yes ,mounting holes in gear end


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Re: Unknown starter

Post by Poppie » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:14 pm

Randall,
Look for an engine with a helical cut ring gear on the flywheel and you will be getting close. ....N.

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Re: Unknown starter

Post by FundyTides » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:31 pm

If you can get access to a Dyke's Manual for the "teens", there is usually a chart that lists the make of generator/starters for each popular car. Westinghouse systems were used on several cars but it may be difficult to narrow down the exact car that this particular one was used on unless you can get access to parts books for each car. The Dyke's that I have (1919) shows Westinghouse systems used on everything from American Beauty, Case,
Cunningham, Maxwell, etc to Pierce Arrow and Singer.

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Re: Unknown starter

Post by John E. Guitar » Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:28 pm

Figures 488 & 489 below show some information on the Westinghouse system, from Automotive Electricity 1925.

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Re: Unknown starter

Post by John kuehn » Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:59 am

How early would the starter be. Did early cars in the early teens or earlier have them? Ford was an innovator so it must be sometime in the early era of T’s. Ford didn’t have them till 19.

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Re: Unknown starter

Post by DanTreace » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:55 am

That Westinghouse starter motor is from the mid 20's, they had earlier magnetic pinion shift starting motors in the 'teens, one from 1913 is a much larger square housing, and separate magnetic shift box.


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1913 Brook's Handbook.

Don't know date of first starter, some were air, and the early electric makers were Bijur, Bosch, Rushmore, Northeast, Remy, Wagner, Gray and Davis, Dyneto, Delco, and Autolight. Most were direct to flywheel some to crank, then along came Mr. Bendix and things changed as to drive mechanism. ;)
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