1909 door check straps
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1909 door check straps
My 1909 Touring doors have footman loops that were part of the original check strap assemblies. The hinge posts were re-wooded by others, and do not have evidence showing how the check straps were fastened at these posts. Researching these, I find examples where some straps are secured with cup washers and screws on both sides of the strap. Another example has a footman loop attached to the door, and screws attaching the strap post side. I found yet another example that does not appear to be a Ford, but where there are footman loops at both ends of the strap.
I looked for replacement leather straps, but did not find a repro leather strap that has loops, as would be used for the footman application. Much appreciation if someone can inform me as to what was OEM correct, and possibly direct me top a supplier of these straps.
Regards,
Scott
I looked for replacement leather straps, but did not find a repro leather strap that has loops, as would be used for the footman application. Much appreciation if someone can inform me as to what was OEM correct, and possibly direct me top a supplier of these straps.
Regards,
Scott
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Re: 1909 door check straps
August 09 Beaudette alloy body, believed never responded or retrimmed.
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Re: 1909 door check straps
Shoul have said never rewooded! Spell check!
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Re: 1909 door check straps
Hello Jem:
Thanks large for these excellent photos...great looking original car. I will check with Russ Furstnow to see if this style of strap is one of his leather products. Mine has a similar door panel with the footman loop.
Separately, I recall you were rebuilding your no-rivet rear end, and I hope this effort was a success.
Regards,
Scott
Thanks large for these excellent photos...great looking original car. I will check with Russ Furstnow to see if this style of strap is one of his leather products. Mine has a similar door panel with the footman loop.
Separately, I recall you were rebuilding your no-rivet rear end, and I hope this effort was a success.
Regards,
Scott
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Re: 1909 door check straps
Check for a Tandy leather shop or other leather supply shop I just bought 4 inch wide leather for door stops on the 1937 Horch they had black an natural they also had the brass rivet ,leather in 2,3,4 inch cheers Colin
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Re: 1909 door check straps
Many thanks Collin....will check into this.
Regards,
Scott
Regards,
Scott
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Re: 1909 door check straps
The door straps on my Beaudett bodied October 1909 touring are the screw version. When I had the upholstery off I did check for other holes as it didn’t want to nail into them. I don’t recall seeming any other holes in the vicinity that would result from using footman loops.
I did use the straps that came in the kit of parts after several sessions with nedsfoot oil. The screws and brass cup washers were new From McMaster-Carr. Tony Bowker
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.
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Re: 1909 door check straps
Regards,
Scott
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Re: 1909 door check straps
We have to remember these early bodies were craftsman made so there may be no single standard, it would have varied depending on which man was doing the job and what hardware was available. Like linestriping which varies from car to car.
Re my axle, that needs cooperation with a machine shop, not possible right now. I have turned to finishing my Model A (28 not 03).
Re my axle, that needs cooperation with a machine shop, not possible right now. I have turned to finishing my Model A (28 not 03).
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Re: 1909 door check straps
Check straps installed. Many thanks to Russ Furstnow who made these straps up as specials. Perhaps a petty detail...both original and repro footman loops have counter drilled mounting holes, suggesting possible flat head or
Regards,
Scott
oval screws for mounting, however I used the round heads shown. These screws shown are believed to be the originals. Many thanks again to all for the help with this.Regards,
Scott