Crankshaft Identification
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Crankshaft Identification
Hi guys. Need some help verifying these crankshafts. These came from a long time speedster collector. The top crankshaft is obviously Model T. I believe the middle and bottom crankshafts were other manufacturer; however, often used in the Model T to improve the strength of the bottom end when building a performance engine. I believe the middle crankshaft is the Chevrolet and the bottom is the rare Wiils St. Clair as seen in this previous post http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/17 ... 1301087651
The rods and mains on the bottom crankshaft measure 1.720 across the board. It is drilled for oil pressure. Your thoughts much appreciated.
The rods and mains on the bottom crankshaft measure 1.720 across the board. It is drilled for oil pressure. Your thoughts much appreciated.
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Re: Crankshaft Identification
The middle one is Chevrolet 4 cylinder thru 1925 to 1928.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!
1925 Cut down pickup
1920 Dodge touring
1948 Ford F2 pickup
1925 Cut down pickup
1920 Dodge touring
1948 Ford F2 pickup
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Re: Crankshaft Identification
Quite correct about that tough "springy" Chevrolet shaft in the middle.
I'd bet a cold beer or a hot coffee that the Chevy shaft is bent and might need a peening to get him back to straight.
.120 thou in the other direction and he just laughed at me.
Very neat pics!
I'd bet a cold beer or a hot coffee that the Chevy shaft is bent and might need a peening to get him back to straight.
.120 thou in the other direction and he just laughed at me.
Very neat pics!
Since I lost my mind mind, I feel more liberated
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Re: Crankshaft Identification
Thank you for the comments. Here is a picture from a MTFCA forum topic regarding crankshafts which shows the Wills St. Claire crankshaft compared to the SCAT and Model A conversions.
Here is also the link to that discussion.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/25 ... 1331537671
Both the Chevrolet and Wills St. Claire crankshafts will be made available for purchase in the classifieds. What would be considered a fair asking price for each? As always, you advise is appreciated.
Here is also the link to that discussion.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/25 ... 1331537671
Both the Chevrolet and Wills St. Claire crankshafts will be made available for purchase in the classifieds. What would be considered a fair asking price for each? As always, you advise is appreciated.
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Re: Crankshaft Identification
Sorry cant help with the Chevrolet, the two I have I got free. One was in a complete engine. Might check eBay in the sold section to get idea of trending.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!
1925 Cut down pickup
1920 Dodge touring
1948 Ford F2 pickup
1925 Cut down pickup
1920 Dodge touring
1948 Ford F2 pickup
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Re: Crankshaft Identification
Just for grins, this is what Maxwell was doing about that time period.
When did I do that?
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Re: Crankshaft Identification
Hmmm,....."interesting" Rich. I don't believe that what you posted is a photograph of an actual crankshaft. It doesn't look like a "drawing" either, but must be some kind of an "artists conception", because as shown, there is no center main bearing! Could that be right? Weird!
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Re: Crankshaft Identification
It is out of the parts book for 1915. Here are pictures of my actual engine. Yes! Weird! And it runs pretty well.
Rich
Rich
When did I do that?
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Re: Crankshaft Identification
Mark, did you find a benchmark yet?
The last '28 Chevrolet engine I bought (3-4 years ago) cost me 300 so... Gotta be worth a 50? Probly more. I'm out of touch.
Hope that helps.
Rich, that's neat! IH used cranks like that on some of their tractors in the 20's & 30's. Big heavy shafts on two large ball units.
The last '28 Chevrolet engine I bought (3-4 years ago) cost me 300 so... Gotta be worth a 50? Probly more. I'm out of touch.
Hope that helps.
Rich, that's neat! IH used cranks like that on some of their tractors in the 20's & 30's. Big heavy shafts on two large ball units.
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Re: Crankshaft Identification
Mr. Ed knows crankshaft identification......lol!!!