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Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 12:00 am
by John E. Guitar
I was reading an article on the Weebermobile and came across this photo of a Ford Model K.

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The article is worth a read:

http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/common/nysm/f ... bile_0.pdf

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 3:25 pm
by WayneJ
A great story, thank you for posting.

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 9:36 pm
by Gil Fitzhugh
Do any Model S Ford coupes survive? See the ad on page 161.

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 8:43 am
by WayneJ
Here is the page Gil is referring to:
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Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 8:53 am
by WayneJ
Here is a close up:
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I want one! (I will need to win the lottery first)

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 7:03 pm
by Wayne Sheldon
There was a discussion on the EFR (Early Ford Registry) forum maybe two years ago on the subject of NRS coupes. A couple era photos were discussed, including one or two of a runabout that had been converted to a coupe back in the day. Whether it was there or not, somewhere I read that someone has a small piece of an era coupe body believed to have been an NRS. Other than that, no original NRS coupes are known to exist today.

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 7:13 pm
by Jerry VanOoteghem
Imagine if we were all driving Weebermobiles today!

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 4:56 am
by Wayne Sheldon
Okay, it was about four years ago. Unfortunately, it appears the photos have evaporated. But a little discussion of coupes (not much of value unfortunately) can be found here:

http://earlyfordregistry.com/phpBB3/vie ... ?f=3&t=142

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 8:37 am
by Rob
Wayne, not to hijack this Weeber thread, but some of the Ford coupe pics from previous articles. First, a 1907 Coupe version, appearing on a Model N chassis (step plate, not Model R running board), with both bodies included for $850:

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Early 1908 Coupe ad, on S or R chassis?

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Another March 1, 1908 advertisement, listing the Coupe, Models N and N, and the new Model T:

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Finally two different photos of Dr. Gayman’s Ford Coupe. The photos are taken on different dates, the Dr.’s office and signage has changed between pics:

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Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 8:55 am
by WayneJ
So the term "Ford Doctor's Coupe" goes back as far as at least 1908.

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 9:49 am
by Rob
Wayne, that’s not the half of it......... 8-)

In early 1904 Ford shows a Ford coupe, along with his first four cylinder production car, air cooled (that didn’t make it to regular production):

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And in August 1904, the “Physicians Ford;”
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Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 1:17 pm
by dllr28bl
Rob,

The January 1, 1908 ad above is very interesting. Is the car on the upper right a Model S Touring rather than a Model T? It is labeled “Model T”, but is right hand drive, has a single lever and the crank appears to go through the radiator. Isn't there an existing Model S Touring that was restored a few years ago?

Dan

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 7:33 am
by Rob
Dan,
Cecil Church (RIP) cloned an S/T touring years ago (about 1976). I believe it was on the cover of the Ford Times (could be wrong). I saw the car a few years ago, and it is a beautiful recreation. Ford Motor Company audit records indicate Ford produced three Model T and two Laund (laundelet/town car) during fiscal year 1907 (Oct 1, 1907 - Sep 30, 1908). There are are photos out there of what looks like a Model S town car with Model T style radiator. News reports from late 1907 indicate FMC showed a prototype Model T during the Detroit Auto Show (at it’s branch store). The 1908 loss/gain audit lists two Model T sold, and one Laundaulet (their spelling, not mine).

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On another page of the audit, production records indicate three Model T and two “Laund” were produced (as well as 67 S coupes):
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Cecil Church’s “reproduction:
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My guess is, as the ad below reports, this “prototype” Model T had a 20-24 hp motor, but that it was an NRS style motor, possibly indicated by the NRS style radiator waterpump, but with a taller radiator tank similar to the future Model T.
1907 advertisement:
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Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 4:25 pm
by Wayne Sheldon
Thank you Rob for adding all this wonderful information and these photos!

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 7:28 pm
by Marty Bufalini
The best thing about Weebermobiles is that they wobble but they don't fall down!!!

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 7:58 pm
by John E. Guitar
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Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 9:41 am
by Rob
Thanks John. Hope the “other” pics don’t detract.

With that said, I think the first pic in your last post may include a Model K roadster:

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I flipped a pic of our K because it was the closest angle compared with the car to the left in the photo you posted:

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