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Hello is there any Livingood conversions for sale ?

Post by Oljoe1 » Wed May 13, 2020 9:23 am

Hi I’m looking for any living good conversions out there just the running gear would be fine even if it needs work you can contact me at Joe 606 271 0584
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Re: Hello is there any Livingood conversions for sale ?

Post by Humblej » Wed May 13, 2020 4:31 pm

Did you try contacting livingood directly? Been awhile since this has come up, but I was under the impression he was still making them. I had looked into it a few years ago but new ones were out of my budget.


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Re: Hello is there any Livingood conversions for sale ?

Post by tom_strickling » Wed May 13, 2020 5:52 pm

As I understand it, Mr. Livingood is not doing so well lately. I know some guys in his chapter and I highly doubt he is still producing any.
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Post by Oljoe1 » Wed May 13, 2020 7:03 pm

Huh? I was talking about original I didn’t know someone was making them again. You might have to educate me here. I was wanting original one if they are out there and not higher than a cats back lol


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Re: Hello is there any Livingood conversions for sale ?

Post by Les Schubert » Wed May 13, 2020 7:51 pm

I bought a new one about 20 years ago for about $4,000.00. I sold it a couple years ago.


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Re: Hello is there any Livingood conversions for sale ?

Post by Les Schubert » Wed May 13, 2020 7:56 pm

I have contemplated making my own version incorporating tilted kingpins as I think it would handle considerably better then. I have done a stock T axle and tilted the kingpins in and it then steers like a modern car. Yes, I made new spindles.


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Post by Oljoe1 » Wed May 13, 2020 8:29 pm

Les Schubert wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 7:56 pm
I have contemplated making my own version incorporating tilted kingpins as I think it would handle considerably better then. I have done a stock T axle and tilted the kingpins in and it then steers like a modern car. Yes, I made new spindles.
I could make one myself to I have a welding and machine shop I was wanting an original one if they were out there . What is the story on the new ones ?


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Re: Hello is there any Livingood conversions for sale ?

Post by Kevin Pharis » Wed May 13, 2020 11:59 pm

As I understand it;
The new ones are technically originals... as the grandson? now has the original patterns and drawings, and the family has been continually making the conversions since the early years


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Re: Hello is there any Livingood conversions for sale ?

Post by Oljoe1 » Thu May 14, 2020 6:11 am

Kevin Pharis wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 11:59 pm
As I understand it;
The new ones are technically originals... as the grandson? now has the original patterns and drawings, and the family has been continually making the conversions since the early years
Thank you I did not know that.


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Post by Herb Iffrig » Thu May 14, 2020 7:51 am

There was an article on them years ago in one of the club magazines. I remember meeting Mr. Livingood at the Old Threshers Show in Mt. Pleasant Iowa. He had a conversion there.


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Re: Hello is there any Livingood conversions for sale ?

Post by Wayfarer » Thu May 14, 2020 4:23 pm

I had no idea what you guys were talking about, so I googled it.

VERY COOL !

I had no idea that existed, shouldn't have looked it up. Now I want one !


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Re: Hello is there any Livingood conversions for sale ?

Post by modeltspaz » Thu May 14, 2020 8:08 pm

If you would like to see footage of a Model T with a Livingood 4 Wheel Drive conversion, it can be seen on YouTube. The video is also 11 years old, but still very much worth watching.
In the search bar on the YouTube site simply enter 1917X and prepare to be amazed.
On a side note, my 12th grade Poly Sci teacher at Downey High School was Mr. Livingood. No relation.
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Re: Hello is there any Livingood conversions for sale ?

Post by Luxford » Thu May 14, 2020 10:06 pm

I was lucky enough to visit the Livingood workshop and talk to Jesse Livingood's grandson (Jesse 11) and drive his 4 wheel drive speedster.
The one thing that really impressed me was the ease of driving, there was no problem with the steering it appeared to be just as light to steer as any good Model T.
It was winter when I was there and there and was snow on the ground. Out the front of the workshop was a snow covered grass lawn with a reasonable slope.
The Speedster easily drove up and down it with no sign of slipping. The video of the Livingood operating in deep snow in Spokane shows how well this unit performs. It's Unfortunate that Jesse 11 like a lot of is is getting on and may not be able to still recreate the 4 wheel drive unit any more. They are out there and sooner or later one will turn up or maybe it's time for an enthusiastic Model T owner to take on the task of producing more of the units for future Model T owners.

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