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Speedster project
My cheap old speedster project so far. Someone in Tennessee has been prodding me with a long stick and giving me these goofy ideas.
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Re: Speedster project
Looks like a great start!
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Looks like a sweet ride in the makin.
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Re: Speedster project
New header and megaphone pipe
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Looking Sexy there “Grasshopper””!
The Hillbilly
The Hillbilly
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Re: Speedster project
Danny, Looking real good. I like the color combination on the engine. Silver/aluminum paint with the aluminum accessories looks nice. I may try that combo next time... Keep us posted, we like to see other folks projects .....
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Do you know what Hank used to paint that block? I like the color and was looking for something similar for mine.
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I like the 26/27 style motor braces going up to the cylinder head riser plate. Are the steel rods, running under the pan arms, a repair or a reinforcement?
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Re: Speedster project
Shane the paint is from Snyder’s cast iron, good stuff!
Jerry those are 3/8” steel rods I form in the pressed relieves for support, works excellent!
Hank
Jerry those are 3/8” steel rods I form in the pressed relieves for support, works excellent!
Hank
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Re: Speedster project
Always like this stuff, THanks
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Keep it simple and keep a good junk pile if you want to invent something
Keep it simple and keep a good junk pile if you want to invent something
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Re: Speedster project
I like the additional reinforcement in that beautiful power plant as Jerry V. has pointed out. Your engine is a real "study" in additional reinforcements obviously needed, due to the added power, and I had a thought about a possible addition that might make sense:
As we know, "Henry Ford" even recognized the fact the entire engine/transmission/hogshead assembly, bolted to a common stamped metal one-piece pan, needed additional "stiffening" and as such, one of his additions to the "new improved" '26-'27 Model T was to bolt the top of the hogshead to the back of the engine block, so as to make the entire engine/transmission/hogshead assembly more ridged. My thought was that your engine (lacking the factory feature of bolting top of hogshead to engine block) a pair of strap iron braces could be fabricated to mount between the front (or top corner bolts) of the hogshead inspection access cover and the two bolts (or studs) on the back of your cylinder head riser plate. This would not be quite as ridged as the factory method of solidly bolting the top of the hogshead to the back of the engine block, but probably would go a long way toward stiffening up the whole engine/transmission assembly, which I would think would be even more important with this more powerful engine than the stock 20-hp engine. Again, just a thought,....harold
As we know, "Henry Ford" even recognized the fact the entire engine/transmission/hogshead assembly, bolted to a common stamped metal one-piece pan, needed additional "stiffening" and as such, one of his additions to the "new improved" '26-'27 Model T was to bolt the top of the hogshead to the back of the engine block, so as to make the entire engine/transmission/hogshead assembly more ridged. My thought was that your engine (lacking the factory feature of bolting top of hogshead to engine block) a pair of strap iron braces could be fabricated to mount between the front (or top corner bolts) of the hogshead inspection access cover and the two bolts (or studs) on the back of your cylinder head riser plate. This would not be quite as ridged as the factory method of solidly bolting the top of the hogshead to the back of the engine block, but probably would go a long way toward stiffening up the whole engine/transmission assembly, which I would think would be even more important with this more powerful engine than the stock 20-hp engine. Again, just a thought,....harold
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Re: Speedster project
Harold this one as with other performance models I did also has heavy oil pan to hogs head/engine supports on the underside!
Thanks,
Hank
Thanks,
Hank
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Aaah,....so the crankcase is probably a casting instead of the factory stamping, right? Obviously, I didn't consider that!
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Re: Speedster project
Nice start. But I am not sure about using the aluminum adapter plate to bolt the supports to.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!
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1925 Cut down pickup
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Re: Speedster project
Mark,
Adapter plates from 6061 structural alloys are very strong, especial when used with studs and not bolts.
Hank
Adapter plates from 6061 structural alloys are very strong, especial when used with studs and not bolts.
Hank
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Re: Speedster project
Hank I was hoping you would chime in, thanks for that information. Something for me to think about when I put the Chevrolet head back on.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!
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Re: Speedster project
Mark also using strap steel will allow more expanding and contracting while keeping the axis in plane. the studs are 7/16" with 9/16' holes.
Hope this Helps,
Hank
Hope this Helps,
Hank
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Re: Speedster project
Thank you, yes.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!
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Re: Speedster project
Looks great. Who dropped your front axle? I am looking to have one done.
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Re: Speedster project
Starting to mock up some sort of firewall
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Re: Speedster project
Guy out west, been a year since I bought it and cannot remember but will try to look it up. They do a lot of hot rod axles.Jim McClellan wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 10:28 pmLooks great. Who dropped your front axle? I am looking to have one done.
Found it
Nostalgia Sid’s
https://www.droppedaxles.com/
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Re: Speedster project
Nostalgia Sid's in Guthrie OK has done some T dropped axles for me.
I have been very satisfied with the work he did.
Harry
I have been very satisfied with the work he did.
Harry
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Re: Speedster project
That’s it Harry
Just posted at the same time
Just posted at the same time
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THANK YOU!dmdeaton wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 10:40 pmGuy out west, been a year since I bought it and cannot remember but will try to look it up. They do a lot of hot rod axles.Jim McClellan wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 10:28 pmLooks great. Who dropped your front axle? I am looking to have one done.
Found it
Nostalgia Sid’s
https://www.droppedaxles.com/