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foot throttle
Having added a KC Warford, my friends say I will be able to shift better with a foot throttle. I've read the older discussions and guess I'll have to make one as the new 2019 Lang's catalog no longer lists the kit. On a post in May, 2018 Dan Hatch indicated he might have some left over parts. I've attempted to PM with no response so asking here if anyone has some parts or information not on the older discussion pages, I'd like some help. Will also post a WTP on the classified if I can navigate it. Thanks and ANY help will be appreciated.
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Re: foot throttle
The proper period term is footfeed.
I think making one would be an interesting project.
I think making one would be an interesting project.
The inevitable often happens.
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Re: foot throttle
I thought it was gas pedal (when i was young and even more foolish)
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Re: foot throttle
My dad always called it a foot feed on older cars and trucks. Maybe regional? He grew up in Northeast Montana.
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Re: foot throttle
Sorry can't help because mine has overhead and different setup. I have an original Warford and found it safer to use a footfeed/gas pedal. I have too much traffic, twisty narrow roads to deal with to be shifting while watching the road, working the clutch, shift lever, while trying to steer and work the hand throttle at the same time. Maybe someday when I get more practice it might be different. Also maybe if I had long stretches of straight road the would help too.
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Re: foot throttle
I have most of one Frank.
I had thought about using it and changed my mind.
I have the foot pedal and the rod assembly to the carburetor. I believe the parts that enable the hand throttle to be used with it are not there.
I will get a picture in a day or two and see if someone can id it.
Dave
I had thought about using it and changed my mind.
I have the foot pedal and the rod assembly to the carburetor. I believe the parts that enable the hand throttle to be used with it are not there.
I will get a picture in a day or two and see if someone can id it.
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Re: foot throttle
Given how sensitive the Model T throttle is, you might want to include a foot rest like in the Model A's in you design...this would help you to apply the throttle with a hell of a lot more control than just trying to use your heel, which might be hard, since it's a button and not a pedal.
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Re: foot throttle
Thanks for the info so far. Will be anxious to see what Ruxstel 24 has. The model A "peg" is a good idea - it sure helps on the A. I hope I can retain the had throttle as well. It's almost like a "cruise control" I use it a lot on our A as well.
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Re: foot throttle
What ever style you install, make sure it is far enough away from the brake pedal so you don't push it down when hitting the brakes.
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Re: foot throttle
I installed a foot throttle ,after warford also - works very well & easy to install , purchased it form Texas T Parts at the time , I think it is still available through Bird Haven supply.
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Re: foot throttle
I tried the foot throttle on my 29 IH speedster flatbed once. It was dumb. It hangs on the wall. No control.
Have a late T clunker down in the woods with a foot throttle. I suspect the same.
Yes on a foot rest so you twist your foot down to the left instead of using your heel to modulate.
AA truck in your memory Duane? I think so.
Have a late T clunker down in the woods with a foot throttle. I suspect the same.
Yes on a foot rest so you twist your foot down to the left instead of using your heel to modulate.
AA truck in your memory Duane? I think so.
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Re: foot throttle
Sorry it took so long...rain all day yesterday and now about a 10 degree wind chill !!
But this is what I got.
But this is what I got.
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Re: foot throttle
I found a foot pedal like that for my speedster. Mounted the bracket on the firewall and cut a slot in the floorboard for the arm to go through and connect to home made linkage to the carb. The pedal hangs down and I added a carriage bolt (head up) next to it as a foot rest so I can roll my foot sideways. Control without the foot peg on the side of the pedal is real tough on rough roads. No clue what my pedal was on originally, it was just an odd bit I found at a swap meet.
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Re: foot throttle
Dave
Here is period adv. for that cylinder head mounted foot accelerator.
Click to enlarge, 1920 Std. Auto Supply, Boston
The famous Williams used a modern for back then wire in a cable to pull the throttle, pretty cool as easy to buy choke cable at any auto parts store today. Have one of the pedals, but no hook up. Found this adv. for the Williams JR....this one is perhaps easy to refit, using a new cable, the existing Ford throttle rod to the carb, but a clamp on piece to it, and a length of spring to allow the Ford rod to retract easy went taking off your foot from the pedal....ah mmm, may try to work up a clip on thingy.
Regular Williams accelerator
Here is period adv. for that cylinder head mounted foot accelerator.
Click to enlarge, 1920 Std. Auto Supply, Boston
The famous Williams used a modern for back then wire in a cable to pull the throttle, pretty cool as easy to buy choke cable at any auto parts store today. Have one of the pedals, but no hook up. Found this adv. for the Williams JR....this one is perhaps easy to refit, using a new cable, the existing Ford throttle rod to the carb, but a clamp on piece to it, and a length of spring to allow the Ford rod to retract easy went taking off your foot from the pedal....ah mmm, may try to work up a clip on thingy.
Regular Williams accelerator
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Re: foot throttle
That's awesome Dan !!
Afraid I'm gonna have to ask a little more than $1.15...
Afraid I'm gonna have to ask a little more than $1.15...
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Re: foot throttle
If the other person does not buy it please let me know, I want one
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Re: foot throttle
Here are a couple more style of 'foot feeds'
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Re: foot throttle
Had one of the Fulton units on my 27 when we purchased it from the original owner. Removed it because I found it sloppy and difficult to regulate. Maybe it was worn out. I'll dig it out sometime and take another look at it.
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Re: foot throttle
Mine may not be the prettiest, but it works allowing 'either/or' operation. You can use the footfeed or the hand throttle.
It is pretty much 100% home made (we just bought the pedal 'button'):
It is pretty much 100% home made (we just bought the pedal 'button'):
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Re: foot throttle
Sold...
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Re: foot throttle
I have always had a "Foot Feed" on my 1925, and it makes it so much easier to shift my Warford, and I know it is easier on it's internals using it. I drove some of the big oilfield trucks with multi speed Brown-Lipes for years, and throttle usage is important for shifting the multi-speed systems. I think you'll like it.
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Re: foot throttle
With the setup I’m presently using on my speedster : RAJO, warford,Dual exhaust manifold, Model A intake manifold, stromberg M-1 carburetor. I realized that linkage wasn’t going to work. I purchased the foot feed/gas pedal and throttle cables from Speedway Motors. I’m still able to use the original hand throttle along with the foot feed which comes in handy on my daily drives around San Diego ( weather pending)
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Re: foot throttle
Thanks to everyone for the input! The pictures help a lot. I'm sure we will be able t o build one that works the way I want. There is a kit on ebay that looks a lot like the Speedway Motor one. Painted black (instead of chrome) I may be able to use it. However, the "peg" that has the Model A rubber on it looks good as well. What ever we do, I will probably add the side peg to rest my foot on & make it more stable. Thanks again for all the input!!
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Re: foot throttle
My TT had a footfeed on it when I first got, it made shifting the Chicago three speed a breeze. Never got a floorboard on it after restoring the chassis, so never got it put back on. Sorry Dallas. Dave
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Re: foot throttle
One of my cars had a foot throttle on it when I bought it and the other I modified a Model A set up and the only drawback to the A throttle is the return spring is almost to strong and when using the hand throttle it will sometimes pull the lever up.
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Re: foot throttle
I know, I am and probably always will be the odd one out here. I hadn't checked this thread since the first post, and now look to see it has grown a lot!
I have over the years had a few opportunities to drive other people's Ts with foot feeds. I never liked them. I bought one T that already had one, and being a well accessorized T I decided to leave it there. It didn't work properly, so I completely reworked the entire mechanism so that both the hand and foot feeds worked smoothly. I still never liked using the foot feed.
For me? I find the hand throttle gives me much more precise control of the engine's speed, and makes shifting whatever auxiliary transmission I am using easier and better. Maybe part of the reason for that is that the first vehicles I learned to drive were my grandfather's Ford N series tractors (at the ripe old age of six!). And they used a hand throttle. So, maybe it just seems more natural to me.
I like the "bear hug" method of shifting. Right hand works the shift lever, left arm goes around the steering wheel holding direction, while left hand controls engine speed. The only problem with that method is that it is not a good idea to try it on changing curves. However, with just a bit of forethought, I find it easy to place my shifts on a short straight or constant curve.
That is just me.
I have over the years had a few opportunities to drive other people's Ts with foot feeds. I never liked them. I bought one T that already had one, and being a well accessorized T I decided to leave it there. It didn't work properly, so I completely reworked the entire mechanism so that both the hand and foot feeds worked smoothly. I still never liked using the foot feed.
For me? I find the hand throttle gives me much more precise control of the engine's speed, and makes shifting whatever auxiliary transmission I am using easier and better. Maybe part of the reason for that is that the first vehicles I learned to drive were my grandfather's Ford N series tractors (at the ripe old age of six!). And they used a hand throttle. So, maybe it just seems more natural to me.
I like the "bear hug" method of shifting. Right hand works the shift lever, left arm goes around the steering wheel holding direction, while left hand controls engine speed. The only problem with that method is that it is not a good idea to try it on changing curves. However, with just a bit of forethought, I find it easy to place my shifts on a short straight or constant curve.
That is just me.
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Re: foot throttle
Hi Wayne,
That is the beauty of the 'either /or' foot feed solution.
I use the hand throttle most of the time myself and prefer that, but I will confirm that the foot feed makes changing the auxiliary gearbox a whole lot safer and easier. No more writhing arms over and under to hold the steering wheel, throttle and change the gear lever.
Cheers
Adrian
That is the beauty of the 'either /or' foot feed solution.
I use the hand throttle most of the time myself and prefer that, but I will confirm that the foot feed makes changing the auxiliary gearbox a whole lot safer and easier. No more writhing arms over and under to hold the steering wheel, throttle and change the gear lever.
Cheers
Adrian
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Re: foot throttle
Back in the day cars had foot feeds. Tractors had throttles.
I put a foot feed on my touring some years ago.
It was either that or power steering. The hand throttle still works as before.
I put a foot feed on my touring some years ago.
It was either that or power steering. The hand throttle still works as before.
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Re: foot throttle
You don't generally shift a tractor while working the field. Normally to come to a stop and select what gear you are going to use. I am thinking comparing tractors to cars, apples and oranges. An yes I have put a "LOT" of hours on a tractor.
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