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True 1916 Barn Find.

Post by Brian D » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:22 am

Got a call from a nearby Farmer. His Grandfather bought the car brand new. Was driven on the farm until bought a 26 Chevy. Parked the T in the corner of the barn. Just pulled it out.
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Re: True 1916 Barn Find.

Post by Kaiser » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:29 am

Ain't that just great, that is a nice project ! Just clean it and run it :mrgreen:
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Post by wayne sheldon » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:04 am

It looks wonderful! But I don't know how much of it is '16. The fenders appear to be. Radiator and hood are not. Engine and chassis not known.

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Re: True 1916 Barn Find.

Post by StvHump » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:43 am

I want it....I want it....

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Re: True 1916 Barn Find.

Post by Hap_Tucker » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:24 am

What an interesting car. And if they have some early photos or registration papers etc. that would be fantastic.

Like all Ts it has some parts changed out. Clearly the pickup box was not from the factory.

And of course the demountable front wheels and wishbone under the front axle were not available until 1919. ref: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/F-H.htm#fr1 1919-1920
The front radius rod now fastened below the axle at the spring perch studs.
Below axle wishbone.JPG
Because the hood has the holes rather than the rivets holding the hood handle to the hood it is 1920-23ish. Ref: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/F-H.htm#hood1
1920-1923
In July 1920 the handle design eliminated the rivets by using an extrusion of the handle as a “rivet.”
Roadster NOT cut off - arm rest what kind.JPG
And the windshield to body brackets are from Feb 1917'ish to 1922 style ref: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/U-Z.htm#wshld The mounting bracket was now separate and screwed to the windshield frame. (After about Feb. 1917.)
Roadster NOT cut off - arm rest what kind.JPG
But great news - it is NOT a cut off but a roadster body.
Roadster NOT cut off - arm rest what kind.JPG


And it has the correct style 1915-16 curved but NOT crowned rear fenders and the 1915-16 style front fenders.

Better photos will help with the ID process if that is desired. If so the following would be a good help:

Engine serial number (feel free to XXX the last 3 digits)
Engine casting date
Body number (especially if it has a date code) please see: the forum posting “Home for the Holidays” at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/40322.html to see where and what to look for.
Raising the hood to see if the car has the 1915-16 hood former. The 1917-1922 hoods will fit right over that hood former when the brass radiator is replaced with a black low radiator and hood.
And see the posting: "Smoking Gun" 15' and 16' or is it....? at
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/13259.html for several additional details to look for.

Again it will make a great fun T.

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Re: True 1916 Barn Find.

Post by Hap_Tucker » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:27 am

Well before I posted the message, I thought ... I've finally figured out how to get the photos to fit in the message in the order I want them to be. Ok -- I will need to work on that some more.

But they are at the end of the posting.

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Re: True 1916 Barn Find.

Post by Angmar » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:40 am

Can't wait to see more pictures. Great find Hap.
Still crankin old iron

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Re: True 1916 Barn Find.

Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:25 am

How nice to bring another one out into the world again. What a wonderful T?
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Re: True 1916 Barn Find.

Post by John kuehn » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:28 am

What’s neat about this car is that it was put inside and not left outside behind the barn or on the backside of the back fourty! My bet is that’s it’s pretty much a 16 that was a used and a few parts that were replaced along the way with what would fit. If it’s been on the same place all these years I wonder if the turtle deck is still around somewhere. Neat find!


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Re: True 1916 Barn Find.

Post by Original Smith » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:00 am

More photos and details needed! Great find!


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Re: True 1916 Barn Find.

Post by TeveS-Nor Cal » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:14 am

Love it!


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Re: True 1916 Barn Find.

Post by DHort » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:14 am

Those tires are aired up That means there is 100 year old air in them their tires - might be worth something.

Great find, looks like it just needs an oil change and a fill up to start. Wouldn't be surprised if it did.
Have fun with it.


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Re: True 1916 Barn Find.

Post by tonny » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:47 pm

I'm jealous :p

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Re: True 1916 Barn Find.

Post by RustyFords » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:37 pm

Neato!

I'm always amazed when cars emege from storage after 5 decades or more.
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Re: True 1916 Barn Find.

Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:58 am

And just think, there may be many more out there. %O0
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