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Ever seen one of these broken
[image][image][/image][/image]has anyone come across this type of breakage and if so what are the causes?
The pin was solid so it wasn’t a loose pin
The pin was solid so it wasn’t a loose pin
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Re: Ever seen one of these broken
Torque tube not modified to accomodate a ball bearing 4th main
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Re: Ever seen one of these broken
No but I have had one with the T-tube broke inside the casting at the other end. The radius rods kept it in place locked at the rivets where it had sheared.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!
1925 Cut down pickup
1920 Dodge touring
1948 Ford F2 pickup
1925 Cut down pickup
1920 Dodge touring
1948 Ford F2 pickup
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Re: Ever seen one of these broken
No mods all original
No pin gouge
And radius rods look good
No pin gouge
And radius rods look good
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Re: Ever seen one of these broken
If the rear spring center bolt head broke or slipped out of the rear cross member and the rear axle, spring and all, shifted slightly it could have stressed the torque tube over time. Because the torque tube ball is held fast by the motor even a slight and unnoticed misalignment could stress the torque tube in the area that broke.
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Re: Ever seen one of these broken
Too many burnouts!
Mark Strange
Hillsboro, MO
1924 Cut-off Touring (now a pickup)
Hillsboro, MO
1924 Cut-off Touring (now a pickup)
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Re: Ever seen one of these broken
I didn't see any grease cups.....
1917 Touring
1946 Aeronca Champ
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1946 Aeronca Champ
1952 Willys M38a1 Jeep (sold 2023)
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Re: Ever seen one of these broken
I haven't seen one broken, but I did take one housing apart where the universal pin evidently had backed out and scored the inside of the housing. Being that that area is already pretty thin a similar break could have happened.
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Re: Ever seen one of these broken
Just throwing out a thought, the break in that location would be developed by engine torque, the bolts that sandwich the rear part of the torque tube to the diff housing are 3/8" + 1/32 or 13/32" they are referred to as special bolts, if they were ever replaced with incorrect 3/8" bolts this could allow unwanted movement, just a thought.
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Re: Ever seen one of these broken
The nose of the torque tube is free to move around in the ball cap to accommodate suspension movement. If that cap is dry or seized for some other reason, something has got to give.
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Re: Ever seen one of these broken
Were you using a shim to take up for wear in the ball/retaining ring? Too much shim can lock up the ball joint and may cause this.