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How many different types of wheels?

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:15 am
by Commander_Chaos
How many different stock T wheels are there? Looking through videos and have counted at least three including the wire ones.

Re: How many different types of wheels?

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:18 am
by Dan Hatch
Look up the Service Bulletin about wheels. You will be shocked.

Re: How many different types of wheels?

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:31 am
by Commander_Chaos
Thanks. Do you have a link?

Re: How many different types of wheels?

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:02 am
by CudaMan
Or do a Google search on "wheel types mtfca". Lots of threads in the old forum on the subject. There are some compatibility issues with mixing brands of rims and felloes, so try to get a matched set. :)

Re: How many different types of wheels?

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:52 am
by Steve Jelf
Over nineteen years of production I count three major categories: clincher, split rim, and wire. Within the categories, especially clincher, there are many variations.

Re: How many different types of wheels?

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:06 pm
by Commander_Chaos
Holy mackerel! Okay, I can see that assembling a truly matched set could be a chore. I think I'll have to re-watch some Engels coach shop videos

Re: How many different types of wheels?

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:26 pm
by John kuehn
Some of the steel felloe’s in the 17-25 era are so close you can hardly see the difference. The rims will bolt right up to them. People would use what would work when T ‘s were the common car and that’s probably why there are some that are found that have mismatched wheels on them.

Re: How many different types of wheels?

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:49 pm
by Mark Gregush
Don't forget the nondemounable later wheels that had 30X3 front 30X3-1/2 rears with one piece rim/felloe. Then there are the wheels with the button type tenons.

Re: How many different types of wheels?

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:25 pm
by Steve Jelf
I can see that assembling a truly matched set could be a chore.

Depends on what you want. What's the car?

Re: How many different types of wheels?

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:42 pm
by DanTreace
Allen doesn't have a T.....yet. He is asking questions of interest.

For general answer, lots of variables for wheel usage on the Model T from 1908 to 1927. Within years, mostly choice of wood spoke clincher demountable or non-demountable. The lower priced T's got non-demountable after 1919 intro of the demountable rims, those were made by several mfg. too, some rims interchange, some don't.




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Re: How many different types of wheels?

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:59 pm
by Steve Jelf
If I were shopping for wheels to put on a 1919-1924 Ford (the most plentiful and common ones) I would go with Hayes 30 x 3½ demountable clinchers. Why Hayes? They seem to be the most common, and the felloes and rims are easily identified.

Re: How many different types of wheels?

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:47 am
by Alex Dragone
There were a few different wheels used throughout production. First in 1909 you had the very skinny spoke wood felloe wheels with the smaller diameter hubs. Next you still had fairly skinny spokes in 1911 with the larger diameter hubs. Around 1913 the spokes got a little larger in diameter and I think the felloe got a little thicker so I would consider That another version. Then in 1918 the square felloe wheel was introduced, still non demountable. This lasted through 1919-1920 I believe and then the next wheel came which was the 4 lug demountable wheels. Then in 1926 the 21 inch demountable wheels were introduced as well as the optional 21 inch wire wheels. So I count 7 different wheel types used through the model t production