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MichaelA
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Free Start need Help

Post by MichaelA » Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:30 pm

My buddy and I rebuilt the engine on my 22 roadster. It seems to have great power and is running perfect. The only issue I have is too many free starts- it literally happens almost every time. Has anyone else had this problem and any suggestions on how to fix it is much appreciated.
Thanks
Mike


Rich Bingham
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Re: Free Start need Help

Post by Rich Bingham » Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:32 pm

!!? How, exactly, is this a problem ?? Wish mine would do that. I only get about 10%. :lol: :lol:
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Norman Kling
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Re: Free Start need Help

Post by Norman Kling » Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:33 pm

Nothing wrong with that. Saves battery, or arm.
Norm


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Re: Free Start need Help

Post by Erik Johnson » Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:43 pm

Let your motor idle down before turning off the ignition.


Peter, Memphis TN
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Re: Free Start need Help

Post by Peter, Memphis TN » Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:46 pm

If you're serious, and want to stop the free starts, simply turn the key to MAG instead of BATT.

I'm told this requires pulling the spark lever down a couple of notches, but I have no experience here.


John Codman
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Re: Free Start need Help

Post by John Codman » Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:30 pm

I agree with Rich Bingham. I wish that I had your problem. I have had three free starts in the last seven years.

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Re: Free Start need Help

Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:35 pm

Peter has it right. No free starts when you start on MAG. Of course without using the battery you have to pull the crank fast enough to make sufficient juice for the coils. And yes, the spark lever should be down a few notches.
The inevitable often happens.
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Re: Free Start need Help

Post by Allan » Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:32 pm

The problem will go away if you get the starter motor engaged before you switch the ignition on. :)

Allan from down under.

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AndreFordT
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Re: Free Start need Help

Post by AndreFordT » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:11 am

What is wrong with a free start?
My three T make them on about 9/10 of the starts.

Andre
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RustyFords
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Re: Free Start need Help

Post by RustyFords » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:21 am

My guess is that you’re switching the ignition off with the engine at a high rpm.

I can make my car give a free start most of the time by doing that. If I idle it down before switching it off, it hardly ever free starts. I suppose it has to do with how much un-burned fuel vapor there is in the cylinder.
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Re: Free Start need Help

Post by Dallas Landers » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:46 am

I close throttle and timing before I turn off switch. I get lots of free starts with the 26. Even after setting for a week. Never a free start on mag. :D

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Fordwright
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Re: Free Start need Help

Post by Fordwright » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:32 am

I wouldn't complain.


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Re: Free Start need Help

Post by tmodeldriver » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:59 am

He's just bragging.

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