Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

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Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Post by Original Smith » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:11 pm

I have an early carburetor adjusting rod with the forging number 1359 B. What came first, the one I just mentioned, or the plain ones. No guessing please. I'm only interested in facts!


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Re: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Post by pete eastwood » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:46 pm

I have an early one with the number forged into it , I'll check the number

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Re: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Post by KWTownsend » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:58 pm

Larry, if there is a 1359 B, then there is a 1359 that was made before it.


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Re: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Post by Original Smith » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:05 am

Keith: Do you have an example of one without the B ? I'm working on a plain one now for my '14, which was badly pitted. I think probably a former owner of my car kept the good one for a souvenir?


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Re: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Post by R.V.Anderson » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:48 am

There is a 1359 and a 1359A but no 1359B in Ford's info. The differences, apparently, are in the lengths: 18-13/16", 18-23/32", or 19-1/2".


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Re: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Post by Allan » Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:10 pm

RV, that's interesting! What practical reason could there be on such an imprecise part to make one 3/32 longer? It doesn't make much sense to me.

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Re: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Post by 2nighthawks » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:28 pm

Allan - When you visualize what happens at the carburetor end (or "fork" end) of the rod, in a full 360 degree rotation of the fork ends of the rod inserted in the two little holes in the horizontal piece at the top of the carburetor adjustment, at one setting, the one fork "tine" end of the fork is nearly out of the hole, while that same ("tine" for lack of a better word) when the rod and adjustment is rotated 180 degrees, it protrudes much deeper into the hole. Depending on the angle of the adjusting rod from vertical, the length of those two adjusting rod fork "tines" is pretty critical. Different years, models, or body styles of the Model T may have changed the angle of the rod from where it passes thru' the firewall to where it meets the carburetor. That would make a difference of the length of those fork tines pretty "critical" I would think, ..... a bit too long, and it will fail to rotate a full 360 degrees due to interference with the vertical stem that protrudes up out of the carburetor, and too short, and it will disengage from the hole.....harold


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Re: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Post by Allan » Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:01 am

Harold, that might make sense if the difference in length is in the fork tines, but that is not stated. 3/32" is less than 1/8", hardly worth the effort to change it. Perhaps the drawing office was having a slack day and somebody was looking for something to do. :D

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Re: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Post by Drkbp » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:05 pm

Mine is 18-23/32" - I don't seem to see the number but it could be there. Where is it located?

It is the adjusting rod that was in the touring when I got it so I don't know if it is the correct one.

I have a Kingston 4-ball and the tines drop well into the round brass adjustment connector.
The carburetor mixture is at an angle and the tine cotter pin won't allow either tine to come out even
if you pulled up on it and twist with the dash knob.


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Re: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Post by Original Smith » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:43 pm

Some have part numbers, but most do not. It is located on the forging at the yoke.


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Re: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Post by pete eastwood » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:41 pm

Larry , mine has the " B "
mixture rod.jpg


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Re: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Post by Original Smith » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:53 am

Pete: That is a nice clear one. I have two like that, and a couple of others with no markings.

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Re: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Post by KWTownsend » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:06 pm

I have forged carburetor adjusting rods on my 1911 and 1915.
How long were the forged carburetor adjusting rods made?
When did the brass knurled knob get replaced with the coat hanger shape knob?
When did the forged end become a welded on end?


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Re: Early Carburetor Adjusting rod

Post by Original Smith » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:08 am

The latest MTFCI judging guidelines are pretty good, but they need to be revised again.

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