11 horn bracket
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Topic author - Posts: 408
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- First Name: Art
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11 horn bracket
This reproduction horn bracket has broken off for the third time. Once out of the package, another time after I soldered it back together, and again after I had a buddy solder it with what he said was the best solder. He is a HVAC installer. There is not enough stem to go thru the bracket to get solder onto. What repair can be done to fix this? I have considered tapping the stem and putting a screw from the bracket side or having the stem turned down more to allow it to be threaded and use a nut on the back side of the bracket. Any other ideas? If someone has a good original or better reproduction I would buy it. Thanks, Art
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Re: 11 horn bracket
Use silver solder
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Re: 11 horn bracket
The best fix is a combination of both. Drill and tap the stem for a #10 machine screw; drill and countersink the mounting foot. Install the screw, then use silver solder to secure everything. This makes a strong and permanent repair.
This type of bracket is correct only for mounting on the outside of the body. Don't use it for the late '12-'15 mounts on the inside of the dummy panel. That style uses a different, shorter bracket that keeps things out of the way of the driver's knee.
This type of bracket is correct only for mounting on the outside of the body. Don't use it for the late '12-'15 mounts on the inside of the dummy panel. That style uses a different, shorter bracket that keeps things out of the way of the driver's knee.
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Re: 11 horn bracket
I second RV's response - I did the same procedure.
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Topic author - Posts: 408
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- First Name: Art
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Re: 11 horn bracket
Thank you, Art
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Re: 11 horn bracket
Hi Art,
I have a 1911 and had the exact same problem with it breaking. A really poor design bracket. I drilled and tapped the stem and installed a stud. I then used two then nuts to lock it.
When I tour, I use a couple of thin strips of Velcro and run them from behind the bracket and out and around the stem of the air pipe to strengthen it - this way it adds support to strengthen the very week assembly. This way I don't have to cringe when some visitors wants to try honking the horn.
Stu
I have a 1911 and had the exact same problem with it breaking. A really poor design bracket. I drilled and tapped the stem and installed a stud. I then used two then nuts to lock it.
When I tour, I use a couple of thin strips of Velcro and run them from behind the bracket and out and around the stem of the air pipe to strengthen it - this way it adds support to strengthen the very week assembly. This way I don't have to cringe when some visitors wants to try honking the horn.
Stu