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Help Identify Door

Post by sflorence » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:28 am

Please help identify this door.

More pictures see link:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/dTaZ3buVjVqBjeBB6


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Re: Help Identify Door

Post by Joe Bell » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:38 am

Can not tell how wide it is from photo, need a measurement, it is 25 door but do not know if coupe, fordor or a tudor from width.


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Re: Help Identify Door

Post by sflorence » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:52 am

28" to 28.75" wide more measurements see link:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/dTaZ3buVjVqBjeBB6

Thank You, Steve

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Re: Help Identify Door

Post by sflorence » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:54 am

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TWrenn
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Re: Help Identify Door

Post by TWrenn » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:22 am

Looks like it's off a Fordor, it looks just like the driver side rear door I have apart on my 25/26 for window regulator repair.


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Re: Help Identify Door

Post by Jack Putnam, in Ohio » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:39 am

Fordoor door, made by Budd Corp.


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Re: Help Identify Door

Post by rickg » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:59 pm

It's a right front door for a probably 26/27 fordor, i don't know when the all steel doors were first used, the back doors all have the angled rear bottom.

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Re: Help Identify Door

Post by John kuehn » Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:39 pm

I have a 24 Coupe that I restored and doing so I found out the my car has wood framed doors but during late 24 Ford introduced steel framed doors which would be used on into 25.
But I don’t know if the 25 steel framed doors would be the same as the later 26-27 doors since those bodies were a little different than the 25.
The information in the Encyclopedia does mention the steel door change in 25 but doesn’t say if they were the same for 26-27. Others probably know for sure.
It does mention that some of 26 Fordor bodies only were similar but the fenders changed.

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Re: Help Identify Door

Post by henryford2 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:54 pm

This is the right front door on my 1926 Fordor, I'd say it's close but no cigar?
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Re: Help Identify Door

Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:07 pm

If someone asked me I would say it's a '25 Tudor sedan door. I just measured mine and it is 28 3/4 wide and 47 1/2 tall measured on the outside. Measured inside is 46 3/8. That's what your last photo in your link shows. My Tudor has wood framed doors but the late '25 steel doors should be the same. I measured some '24-'25 coupe or Fordor doors that were only 24" wide.
Just my 3 cents worth.
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Re: Help Identify Door

Post by John kuehn » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:35 pm

The steel frame door change has always been kind of confusing For me over the years. I did have a 25 Fordor sedan that I inherited as a parts car for the 24 Coupe that was given me years and years ago.
I sold it but the 25 Fordor had wood framed doors as the late 24 Coupe had wood framed doors.
The 25 sedan engine I kept and the engine number matched what was on the title.
Not knowing much and still don’t I always assumed the 25 cars had wood framed doors but as time went on I found out that 25 was the change For the steel framed doors.
The doors were the same size on both the Coupe and the Fordor sedan and they were wood framed doors. Just my 2 cents worth and another question about how the transition from one year to another weren’t always clear cut.

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Re: Help Identify Door

Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:56 pm

Here is some more food for thought. The front door glass for a '24-25 Tudor is 24 1/2" wide. You could measure your door for that width allowing for the channel. A Fordor front window glass is 19 3/4" wide. That window is #18833 in the Ford Glass Book and is listed as being for 1924-27. So the Fordor doors are very similar in size if not exactly the same for all years. In fact all the Fordor glass is the same for those years except for the windshield. The illustration for that number does not appear on the Fordor page but on the Coupe page. There it is listed for the 1924-25 Coupe. I had assumed for years that the Coupe and the Fordor shared the same front door. This is a clue that it might be possible.
For further reference a '26-'27 Tudor door glass is listed as the same as the '26-'27 Coupe 25 1/5" That is something I hadn't known.
It's difficult to find much door dimension information but the glass book information is available and may clear up some questions.
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Re: Help Identify Door

Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:43 pm

Still on my mind this morning I looked in the Body Parts book and found the '24-'25 Fordor front door assembly has the same part number as the '26. My book was published May 1926. The Coupe door assembly has a different number. The '24-'25 Fordor also has ‡Steel door while the Tudor and Coupe have no such notation. Just an odd feature of the book.
There were some members in the past who had vast knowledge on these details. Much is hidden in past posts and difficult to search out.
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Re: Help Identify Door

Post by rickg » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:37 pm

The doors on my March 24 Fordor are aluminum on wood frames.

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Re: Help Identify Door

Post by Jeff Hood » Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:31 pm

Definitely a front passenger door, it has the hole for the keylock. I just checked my '25 coupe door and it is only 24 inches wide and the window regulator is nearly centered like Joe's Fordor door. The door in question is wider and the regulator is farther forward. My guess is it's for a Tudor.

By the way, does anyone have window regulators for these? Mine look like the Model A regulators but are way bigger.

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