MTFCA Forum

Howdy all,

So, in putting my '25 TT back together, I have encountered a question for those that know better than I. I have an old style Warford with the extra short torque tube, to allow for a tiny little torque tube/U joint to run between the transmission and the Warford itself. As far as I know, the arrangement is supposed to go like this:

[Engine/Transmission] - {Tiny Torque Tube} - [Warford] - {Main Torque Tube} - [Rear End]

In the interest of moving the Warford forward slightly in the cab, is it possible to run the arrangement like this? :

[Engine/Transmission] - [Warford] - {Tiny Torque Tube} - {Main Torque Tube} - [Rear End]

All the parts seem to fit together, and all I'm really worried about is leaks and any possible ramifications of running 2 U joints in series. Pictures online aren't a great deal of help, as torque tubes are seldom visible, though I see plenty of people hanging the Warford directly onto the hogshead. Has anyone tried this before?

If it is an original cast iron Warford the answer is no due to the size of the transmission input shaft. If it is an aluminum case the answer is yes, but you do not need the short extension and if you have a lot of torque on down shifting the poor aluminum case will more than likely explode. Do not forget auxiliary brakes!

Hope this Helps!

Hank

In addition, you need the hanger to support the transmission, the short coupler shaft does not do that. The Warford was designed with the TT in mind so don't see the need to move it forward. If it's the cast iron 3 speed, the shifter is at the front edge of the cover, the other models it was more in the center. Pay attention to what Hank said; If it is an original cast iron Warford the answer is no due to the size of the transmission input shaft.
The input shaft on the cast iron Warford is smaller then the hole it would fit into. Guys that I know have welded up the input shaft and machined down to fit, but without rework, not good. There is enough size difference/slop that that both the tail shaft hole and input shaft would get damaged from loose fit. Has it been done before, yes by people that didn't know. People have posted about it and generally they were the ones that bought the car or truck with it installed that way and were running into issues.