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How to use valve compression tool
Guys,
Anticipating a big year for my T next year including the first "Celebration of Brass at the Gilmore" in July...
Just bought the valve compression tool from Lang's (3054 VCT) in anticipation of doing a valve job on the '15 touring. However, there are no instructions and it's not as intuitive as I thought. Wondering if someone could give me a quick tutorial....Thanks
John
Anticipating a big year for my T next year including the first "Celebration of Brass at the Gilmore" in July...
Just bought the valve compression tool from Lang's (3054 VCT) in anticipation of doing a valve job on the '15 touring. However, there are no instructions and it's not as intuitive as I thought. Wondering if someone could give me a quick tutorial....Thanks
John
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Re: How to use valve compression tool
I believe the original Model T service manual demonstrates this style of compressor. However, the hook reaches up and grabs the top surface of the engine block, (or maybe hooks onto one of the head bolt holes), while the fork on the end of the lever arm goes under the valve spring washer. Simply push down on the lever and the spring goes up.
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Re: How to use valve compression tool
The hook goes over a manifold clamp and acts as a fulcrum for you to pry the bottom of the valve spring upwards.
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Re: How to use valve compression tool
Not sure the Lang's design will hook on the manifold clamps. Looks like the hook sits too close to the fork to allow for the manifolds to be there. Maybe it's meant to hook on the studs instead, but I still think the manifolds need to be removed.
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Re: How to use valve compression tool
I posted this story in the off topic side before. Angie is my 15 year old daughter. Watch those springs!
So we are putting in the valves on the Model T. The spring compressor kept falling off the spring and I decided to compress the spring with my hands with my arms around Angie's head so she could see where to put the pin in to hold the spring. Then she calmly says: "So what are we going to tell the emergency room Doctor?"
So we are putting in the valves on the Model T. The spring compressor kept falling off the spring and I decided to compress the spring with my hands with my arms around Angie's head so she could see where to put the pin in to hold the spring. Then she calmly says: "So what are we going to tell the emergency room Doctor?"
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Re: How to use valve compression tool
Mopar_man
LOL! Reminds me of my step daughter (about that she) helping me with some plumbing demo in the kitchen of a 1880's house, with cast drainpipe. She was holding something while I was going to hit it with a long handled mail. Just as I went to swing, her mother yells a to me for something, and I turned to yell back, while I was swinging, and hit my daughter's knee. Oh, man.....did 'I' feel bad.... Not to mention her knee! My wife had to explain I hit her daughter with a 5 lb maul!
LOL! Reminds me of my step daughter (about that she) helping me with some plumbing demo in the kitchen of a 1880's house, with cast drainpipe. She was holding something while I was going to hit it with a long handled mail. Just as I went to swing, her mother yells a to me for something, and I turned to yell back, while I was swinging, and hit my daughter's knee. Oh, man.....did 'I' feel bad.... Not to mention her knee! My wife had to explain I hit her daughter with a 5 lb maul!
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Re: How to use valve compression tool
There are several different tools that make the job easier you need to find one that suits you I have some different one I would sale there no expensive good luck charlie from Ohio
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Re: How to use valve compression tool
If using modern valves, keepers and collets, the scissor type lifters are a PITA. They cause the springs to cant sideways, angling the keeper and making it very difficult to place the collets. I have found a couple of different brands of old time lifters whose double jointed actions allow the forks to move in parallel to each other. Thus the spring is not distorted and the keeper remains central and the collets can be inserted easily. They are little treasures, and any time I see them available for purchase, they join my swap meet stocks of tools.
Sorry, still can't post photos.
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Sorry, still can't post photos.
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Re: How to use valve compression tool
This home made one isn't bad.
This one is better. I found one online for $40 and passed. A few days later I went to an auction and bought this one for $2.
This one is better. I found one online for $40 and passed. A few days later I went to an auction and bought this one for $2.
The inevitable often happens.
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Re: How to use valve compression tool
This is the style I like. The "dog-leg" design clears the hood shelf when the engine is still in the car.
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Re: How to use valve compression tool
Then there is the brother newly instructed martial-arts demonstration on the sister. It begins with posing the sister into position and saying "Now don't move".
Mopar_man wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:40 amI posted this story in the off topic side before. Angie is my 15 year old daughter. Watch those springs!
So we are putting in the valves on the Model T. The spring compressor kept falling off the spring and I decided to compress the spring with my hands with my arms around Angie's head so she could see where to put the pin in to hold the spring. Then she calmly says: "So what are we going to tell the emergency room Doctor?"