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1911 rear axle

Post by Philip » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:22 pm

I have a friend and club member putting a 1911 together he has the rear end halves.
But no guts. Will a later black-car ring & pinion, carrier, etc. work in this rear?


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Re: 1911 rear axle

Post by George Hand » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:46 pm

Philip, I believe the "guts" from a later rear axle will work, your friend will need an Enclosed pinion spool for the early axle halves. George


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Re: 1911 rear axle

Post by Dollisdad » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:48 pm

The guts of any later year axle will work. Standard or 3 to 1 gear sets will both fit.


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Re: 1911 rear axle

Post by Philip » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:39 am

i have an open spool fitted with a modern pinion bearing the owner says the open would be fine.
will it work in the 11 axle halves even if it does not look correct. philip?

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Re: 1911 rear axle

Post by John Warren » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:03 am

1922-1927.jpg
ColorCrossSection1914-1921 Driveshafta.jpg
Here are a couple of Martyn's details. The drive shaft housing may not fit onto the open spool without modification.
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Re: 1911 rear axle

Post by Philip » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:30 pm

i dont think he has a driveshaft housing we are going to build it with black car parts except for the
early axle housings he has those. philip


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Re: 1911 rear axle

Post by Adam » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:41 pm

Early housings are a big can of worms! Most originals are bent and also loose enough at the differential rivets that they will leak quite noticeably when put into service. Just mentioning that in case you’ve never done one before. If you don’t carefully dot all the i’s & cross all the t’s on that project (which is expensive and time consuming), you might be “married” to it for a darn long time!


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Re: 1911 rear axle

Post by Les Schubert » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:50 pm

If someone needs a nice pair of housing for that era I can help!!


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Re: 1911 rear axle

Post by Dan McEachern » Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:01 pm

Take the time to find an early pinion bearing housing. Why kludge it up at this point? Its just going to stand out like a sore thumb later! Two piece drive shaft housings are out there as well.


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Re: 1911 rear axle

Post by Original Smith » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:27 pm

As mentioned above get the housings straightened. Even the late ones bend. In the illustration above it shows a gasket between the D.S. roller bearing spool and the rear end. I don't believe Ford ever offered a gasket for that application.

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