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1909 Battery Location

Post by talbotman » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:38 am

I would like to know where the battery was originally located on my 1909 touring I assume it may have been secured under the back-seat.


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Re: 1909 Battery Location

Post by Scott_Conger » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:37 am

Your car did not come with a battery, and the manufacturer's position was that one was not needed. Therefor, the choice to hook up a battery was up to the owner, as was it's location and method of securing.
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Re: 1909 Battery Location

Post by Joe Bell » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:48 am

Back in the day all that was around was the Hot shot batteries that fit beside the gas tank, I know now a days people install the motor cycle batteries that have more power and can recharge.


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Re: 1909 Battery Location

Post by Dropacent » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:05 am

All the preT cars had a battery box , in different locations. I don’t know the early Ts well, but I’d guess they had a battery box for large dry cell batteries, as Joe said. Those are still available from McMaster-Carr, but it’s cheaper to use a motorcycle battery.


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Re: 1909 Battery Location

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:27 pm

In the brass era, most owners that wanted a battery with which to start the car, used a telephone battery. Most were round, about three to four inches diameter, and about four to eight inches tall. I have also seen some oval shape, about one to two inches by three to four inches, and about four inches tall. They did come in a variety of sizes. Most owners wrapped it in rags, set between the end of the gasoline tank and the side of the seat. Believe it or not, they very rarely caused a fire that way.

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Re: 1909 Battery Location

Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:08 pm

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These are the telephone dry cells Wayne mentioned. In Model T times they were plentiful and cheap. Now they're scarce and costly. It you're adding a battery to your early Ford there are much less expensive ways to go.

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Re: 1909 Battery Location

Post by Kerry » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:30 pm

As others have stated, battery was an owners choice, Ford only exspressed the use of a battery ignition for work shop purposes in early literature, ie, in work shop manual and service bulletins, owners manual and owners operating instructions are for a magneto start only until early 20's.
But a battery ignition sure does make it easier in ones old age. :D


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Re: 1909 Battery Location

Post by talbotman » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:49 pm

Thank-you very much for the information and advice, to the guys who got back to me about the battery position in my car.

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Re: 1909 Battery Location

Post by Mark Gregush » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:20 pm

Ford never called attention to it but all cars/trucks up to the introduction of the starter and later on some models had a battery terminal on the coil box.
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Re: 1909 Battery Location

Post by John Warren » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:32 am

Jeff, Do you still use that thing? Looks great. Hey Sarah.....
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Re: 1909 Battery Location

Post by Original Smith » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:29 am

I just bought a battery for one of my '13s at a battery store. They have every kind of battery imaginable. The one I like is the same size as a Model T coil, and has two small push terminals on one end. For my touring I have it under the back seat. On my roadster I have it in the storage compartment under the front seat. They are the same type as an Optima which are rechargeable.


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Re: 1909 Battery Location

Post by Bud Delong » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:27 am

Steve ,Would i be correct to think those round dry cells were 9 volt? Thank you.Bud.


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Re: 1909 Battery Location

Post by Kerry » Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:28 pm

1.5 volts, blow the photo up and can be seen written on them.

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