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Herb Iffrig
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Original Smith
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Re: 1915 San Francisco
Too bad that video doesn't show the Ford exibit. I've always wondered about that subject. I would like to know if they attached any plate to those cars to show they were built there, and if so, if any of those cars exist.
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Re: 1915 San Francisco
I saw pictures of the Ford PPE assembly "line" and some of the characteristics of those cars were what led me to believe my car (Aug 15) is a PPE car... I'd love to find someting showing body numbers (that would settle it once and for all) - the year is right, the timing is right, the location was right (it's originally from San Francisco)...
The body number on mine starts off 3F815xxxxx... I'm not sure what the "3F" designation was, whether it was built at some mysterious "Fisher Body Plant #3" (I've tried to find some reference to it - everywhere - but have come up with nada), or by Ford, either at a branch (which would make sense if it's a PPE car, as they were technically "built" at the San Francisco branch) or maybe the 3rd shift?
It's funny (to me) that here we have one of the most documented (in some instances) cars built, and yet so many holes still remain!!!
The body number on mine starts off 3F815xxxxx... I'm not sure what the "3F" designation was, whether it was built at some mysterious "Fisher Body Plant #3" (I've tried to find some reference to it - everywhere - but have come up with nada), or by Ford, either at a branch (which would make sense if it's a PPE car, as they were technically "built" at the San Francisco branch) or maybe the 3rd shift?
It's funny (to me) that here we have one of the most documented (in some instances) cars built, and yet so many holes still remain!!!
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Re: 1915 San Francisco
Loved the show.
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Re: 1915 San Francisco
Herb
Thanks for posting that video link, excellent and fun to watch.
As for the Ford assembly line at the Expo, here is some past posting by Hap Tucker:
According to page 31 of Lorin Sorenson's book it is from the San Francisco public library. If it was taken on the opening day that would confirm that they started with the 1915 style bodies. One picture on page 30 shows Henry Ford and Thomas Edison but it was taken in Oct 1915 so it really doesn't help document what was used the first month.
Note page 30 also states: These were mostly of the Open Touring variety with a handful of Taxi models and were all affixed with a brass plate on the wood dash commemorating their birth place. They were all spoken for weeks in advance with most going immediately to Ford distributors and friar patrons, while the remainder went directly to the Orient on the steamers from San Francisco.
So, it would seem a 'real' assembled T at the Expo would have that brass plate on the dash? Maybe most were shipped to the Orient! Also the Benson Ford library has an original handout from the Expo, adv. of the Ford company, its stated up to 25 cars per day were build on the line, with the assembly running about 6 hours a day for visitors to the site to see.
Thanks for posting that video link, excellent and fun to watch.
As for the Ford assembly line at the Expo, here is some past posting by Hap Tucker:
According to page 31 of Lorin Sorenson's book it is from the San Francisco public library. If it was taken on the opening day that would confirm that they started with the 1915 style bodies. One picture on page 30 shows Henry Ford and Thomas Edison but it was taken in Oct 1915 so it really doesn't help document what was used the first month.
Note page 30 also states: These were mostly of the Open Touring variety with a handful of Taxi models and were all affixed with a brass plate on the wood dash commemorating their birth place. They were all spoken for weeks in advance with most going immediately to Ford distributors and friar patrons, while the remainder went directly to the Orient on the steamers from San Francisco.
So, it would seem a 'real' assembled T at the Expo would have that brass plate on the dash? Maybe most were shipped to the Orient! Also the Benson Ford library has an original handout from the Expo, adv. of the Ford company, its stated up to 25 cars per day were build on the line, with the assembly running about 6 hours a day for visitors to the site to see.
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Re: 1915 San Francisco
To add, Ford already had some experience in building cars with his layout assembly of parts and personnel. This photo is from the Michigan State Fair in 1914, so Ford easily duplicated this effort in front of the public in San Francisco in 1915 !
The best way is always the simplest. The attics of the world are cluttered up with complicated failures. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford