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Five bearing crank?

Post by Khill0105 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:16 pm

Any one have any pictures of some of the original five bearing cranks installed or how they were installed?
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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Michael Peternell » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:20 pm

Can you post a picture of the book you have? I would like to be able to read the whole page. No offense, but I can't now.


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Les Schubert » Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:22 pm

If you want to go the “5 main conversion” route I have available exactly ONE conversion “girdle”. The concept is that ALL 5 main caps are in one casting. I’ll try to post a picture tomorrow.
If someone wants to buy the 5 main block patterns please contact me. They are available. With some modifications they could be used to make open valve blocks or straight 8 blocks


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Kevin Pharis » Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:36 pm

Les!!! You tease...! 😉


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Khill0105 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:04 pm

Michael Peternell wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:20 pm
Can you post a picture of the book you have? I would like to be able to read the whole page. No offense, but I can't now.
The book is model t speed and sport.


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Khill0105 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:13 pm

Les Schubert wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:22 pm
If you want to go the “5 main conversion” route I have available exactly ONE conversion “girdle”. The concept is that ALL 5 main caps are in one casting. I’ll try to post a picture tomorrow.
If someone wants to buy the 5 main block patterns please contact me. They are available. With some modifications they could be used to make open valve blocks or straight 8 blocks
Sounds interesting. I’ve read about your block. It’s pretty impressive. I’m mainly looking for info on the original bolt in conversion.


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Les Schubert » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:49 pm

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Crank side of girdle
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Girdle as it would be installed
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A suitable crank


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Khill0105 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:02 pm

Les Schubert wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:49 pm
18C60F77-BFC5-4A3E-A56B-4B2743D75883.jpeg
Crank side of girdle
BE0305F1-AC5D-441C-A2AE-F9D4EAC2E982.jpeg
Girdle as it would be installed 38B0CF95-5317-4490-BC39-7536F2174CBD.jpeg
A suitable crank
That’s really cool Les definitely interested. I think I understand where you’re going with that. Does it take a special pan?


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Khill0105 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:18 pm

Les could you please send more information and cost?


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Les Schubert » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:32 pm

It will fit into a ordinary pan. Pressure oiled


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Les Schubert » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:35 pm

The crank you see was custom made by Crower. I’m sure they still have the drawings!! Definitely more than a Scat crank!


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Khill0105 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:53 pm

Les Schubert wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:35 pm
The crank you see was custom made by Crower. I’m sure they still have the drawings!! Definitely more than a Scat crank!
Gotcha Les


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by StanHowe » Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:14 pm

I saw these blocks and 5 main cranks by Crower when Les stopped by with them a few years ago. They are incredible. I think the first one went in Karin's speedster. I dunno about the rest. I'd like one but the piggy bank is pretty thin this year.

Send Les money. US Funds. :lol:


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Les Schubert » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:05 pm

Stan
Thank you for the kind words. UNFORTUNATELY DONT send me money for a crank as I have none left. I will provide permission to Crower to use the drawings. I have exactly one of the girdle castings available but I still have the pattern, so more can be made. My preference would be to sell the pattern (just like the block patterns as well). Getting older and LOTS of projects in the que!!


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Khill0105 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:53 am

Les Schubert wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:05 pm
Stan
Thank you for the kind words. UNFORTUNATELY DONT send me money for a crank as I have none left. I will provide permission to Crower to use the drawings. I have exactly one of the girdle castings available but I still have the pattern, so more can be made. My preference would be to sell the pattern (just like the block patterns as well). Getting older and LOTS of projects in the que!!
Les how much for the girdle and the crank? I contacted crower but no luck on getting info for a crank.


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Les Schubert » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:59 am

Talk to Peter Harris at crower


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by StanHowe » Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:47 am

Don't worry Les, I don't have any money and like you, have projects to last until I'm at least 90!!!.


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Layden Butler » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:06 pm

Kyle,
To answer your original question......Here is how it was done back then. Since they interfere with a camshaft in the cylinder block these were intended to only be used under a overhead cam setup.
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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Kevin Pharis » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:42 pm

Waaaaay to cool Layden!! 😳


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Les Schubert » Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:20 pm

I love it!!


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Layden Butler » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:23 pm

So who has a good crankshaft available to match these??


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Les Schubert » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:16 pm

If one like the picture I posted would be suitable, then Crower can help you. 4 months ago I possibly could have, but I have put it to use!


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Re: Five bearing crank?

Post by Khill0105 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:46 pm

Layden Butler wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:06 pm
Kyle,
To answer your original question......Here is how it was done back then. Since they interfere with a camshaft in the cylinder block these were intended to only be used under a overhead cam setup.
Thanks Layden exactly what I was looking for.

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