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tire mounting powder

Post by Jim Sims » Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:40 am

Where can I buy the tire mount talcum powder? Where I live, no one has even heard of talcum powder.


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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by Erik Johnson » Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:42 am

You should be able to buy tire talc at an auto parts store like NAPA, a tire supply or your local fleet and farm store, etc.

O'Reilly Auto Parts carries it:

https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/xt ... xts0/14550

One large canister will last you a lifetime. I have a can on the shelf that is about 40 years old.

General google search for "tire talc":

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22tire ... e&ie=UTF-8

Note: some folks use baby powder but be aware that baby powder no longer contains talcum. It is mainly corn starch.

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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by Mark Gregush » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:32 am

I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by Bill Mullins » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:45 am

You can use a product called Rubber Glyide that you can get at NAPA stores.


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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by Colin Mavins » Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:10 pm

I use dish soap works well and the excess dries up to a powder I use sunlight soap it does not harm the rubber.

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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by varmint » Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:13 pm

I use baby powder.
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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by speedytinc » Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:37 pm

I also use baby powder. Didnt know the difference.
Is there a reason/advantage to get the right stuff (talcum powder)??????????
If it matters, i will get the talc.


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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by Rich Bingham » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:18 pm

Talc (aka soapstone) is a mineral. Its lubricating quality owes to the plate-like structure of particles when pulverized. It used to be a common ingredient in bath powders and baby powder until inhalation was linked to cancer. (Isn't everything ?). Any road, "baby powder" if available at all is currently other stuff, primarily corn starch. I've no idea if its properties give similar results in a tire.

To clarify, dusting the inside of a tire with talc is a good idea as it prevents the innertube from chafing and/or sticking to the tire casing. Used to be new innertubes came liberally dusted with an application of talc. This kind of lubrication has nothing to do with getting the tire bead to slip over the rim as we wrestle to mount a tire.
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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by speedytinc » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:29 pm

Yea good catch. Talc/baby powder inside tire.

Soapy water to mount the tire.
Have also used wd-40 also to mount tires on the road.

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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by Quickm007 » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:38 pm

varmint wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:13 pm
I use baby powder.
I used Baby powder several year either. Work really well. Able to change the tire in 10 minutes.
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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by R.V.Anderson » Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:11 pm

Dish soap works well but it will rust the rims if you leave the residue on the rim.

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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by rbishop26 » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:18 pm

What kind of powder do we use to get the old tire of??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by kmatt2 » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:33 pm

Bob, To answer your question on tire removal. Triple fine black power could work, but I wouldn't recommend using it, due to the colardial damage. lol

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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by RajoRacer » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:36 pm

My buddy worked at a Harley tire shop - he used Windex for quick tire removal.


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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by NU2theT » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:41 pm

Huh....I just watched the video over the weekend and don't recall any use of powder in the MTFCA 1-3 Model T tires-II featuring Fred Houston. In the video the tires mounted on the featured split rims and wire wheels slick with Ru-glyde.

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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by rbishop26 » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:13 pm

Steve-I'll give the Windex a try. Thank you.

Kevin- I've been trying to remove this rear tire for almost a year. It's 20 years old and hard as cement! Black powder is sounding better and better! :D
Realistically, I'm thinking of a Sawz-All, but don't have one. Made the mistake of telling the Rental place what I was going to use it for and they
refused to rent it to me.
Had a friend who mistakenly drove his car with a flat tire and the tire, tube, and flap came right off. No damage. Was remounted. I don't care
about damage (I have a new tire, tube, and flap I want to put on). I've driven it around the block, flat, several times and it just hangs in there,
no problem, doesn't budge!!!

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the post.
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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by Allan » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:53 pm

I can't remember the last time I ever saw a tyre shop use talcum to mount any tyres. You'd think they would get with the program! That stuff they brush on can't be doing much good to the bristles on the brush.

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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by John kuehn » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:44 pm

I use Go-Jo hand cleaner or what ever hand cleaner that I happen to have. It works well and super slick. Cleans your hands up too!


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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by old_charley » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:51 pm

For what my experience is worth, I've used corn starch for years. Seems to work as well as talcum for me. The wife (if you have one) probably has some in the pantry. Plus, it's "natural" and you can lick your fingers clean when you're done.


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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by dmdeaton » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:51 pm

varmint wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:13 pm
I use baby powder.
Lavender Baby Powder! :D

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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by VowellArt » Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:12 pm

Derrick Pang and I used WD-40 when we mounted his new tires for his 16...they went on easy in about 10 minuets each, flaps and all.
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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by ModelTWoods » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:30 pm

Bill Mullins wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:45 am
You can use a product called Rubber Glyide that you can get at NAPA stores.
RuGlide is a liquid lubricant, applied with a paint brush or clean rag. Fred Houston used it in the MTFCA tire mount videos and swore by it.


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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by Jim Sims » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:52 am

I should have made it clear I am mounting 21 inch split rim tires and a liquid lube is not wanted.

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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by Quickm007 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:23 am

rbishop26 wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:13 pm
Steve-I'll give the Windex a try. Thank you.

Kevin- I've been trying to remove this rear tire for almost a year. It's 20 years old and hard as cement! Black powder is sounding better and better! :D
Realistically, I'm thinking of a Sawz-All, but don't have one. Made the mistake of telling the Rental place what I was going to use it for and they
refused to rent it to me.
Had a friend who mistakenly drove his car with a flat tire and the tire, tube, and flap came right off. No damage. Was remounted. I don't care
about damage (I have a new tire, tube, and flap I want to put on). I've driven it around the block, flat, several times and it just hangs in there,
no problem, doesn't budge!!!

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the post.
Sometime tires are so hard and dry you do not have choice to use a saw... Seriously, that happen to me. But be careful to do not damage the Rim...
Super Mario Bross ;)

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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by Dan Hatch » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:33 am

Check out my ad on classified page. Dan


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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by jab35 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:40 am

Jim: You don't need any powder, go jo, etc to mount 21' tires, tubes, flaps on 21' split rims. The rims collapse sufficiently that the tires just slip on, and once everything is aligned the rim can be expanded and locked without using any lube/powder. jb


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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by ModelTWoods » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:48 am

Jim Sims wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:52 am
I should have made it clear I am mounting 21 inch split rim tires and a liquid lube is not wanted.
Jim, I just got through mounting SEVEN 21" tires on SEVEN split rims, and because the rim can collapse, I didn't need any lubricant of any type. Naturally when mounting clinchers or drop center wires one or the other type would be needed.

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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by Mark Gregush » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:52 am

I have found using the split rims, when expanding the rim, the rubber valve stem wants to move and pull out of the hole in the rim. The talc should help in keeping the tube where it needs to be allowing it to slide inside the tire. This may not have been an issue with metal stems, but the rubber type are not locked into place.
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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by ivaldes1 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:23 pm

New flaps and tubes from Lang's come with oil on them. I wonder why and what kind of oil is it? So I did not use powder on them and they go in easily.


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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by katy » Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:52 am

Anyone ever try/use red rubber grease?
https://www.google.com/search?q=red+rub ... e&ie=UTF-8

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Re: tire mounting powder

Post by Mark Gregush » Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:00 am

ivaldes1 wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:23 pm
New flaps and tubes from Lang's come with oil on them. I wonder why and what kind of oil is it? So I did not use powder on them and they go in easily.
Might be something like silicon type lube used as a mold release.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

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