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tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:40 am
by Jim Sims
Where can I buy the tire mount talcum powder? Where I live, no one has even heard of talcum powder.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:42 am
by Erik Johnson
You should be able to buy tire talc at an auto parts store like NAPA, a tire supply or your local fleet and farm store, etc.
O'Reilly Auto Parts carries it:
https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/xt ... xts0/14550
One large canister will last you a lifetime. I have a can on the shelf that is about 40 years old.
General google search for "tire talc":
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22tire ... e&ie=UTF-8
Note: some folks use baby powder but be aware that baby powder no longer contains talcum. It is mainly corn starch.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:32 am
by Mark Gregush
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:45 am
by Bill Mullins
You can use a product called Rubber Glyide that you can get at NAPA stores.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:10 pm
by Colin Mavins
I use dish soap works well and the excess dries up to a powder I use sunlight soap it does not harm the rubber.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:13 pm
by varmint
I use baby powder.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:37 pm
by speedytinc
I also use baby powder. Didnt know the difference.
Is there a reason/advantage to get the right stuff (talcum powder)??????????
If it matters, i will get the talc.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:18 pm
by Rich Bingham
Talc (aka soapstone) is a mineral. Its lubricating quality owes to the plate-like structure of particles when pulverized. It used to be a common ingredient in bath powders and baby powder until inhalation was linked to cancer. (Isn't everything ?). Any road, "baby powder" if available at all is currently other stuff, primarily corn starch. I've no idea if its properties give similar results in a tire.
To clarify, dusting the inside of a tire with talc is a good idea as it prevents the innertube from chafing and/or sticking to the tire casing. Used to be new innertubes came liberally dusted with an application of talc. This kind of lubrication has nothing to do with getting the tire bead to slip over the rim as we wrestle to mount a tire.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:29 pm
by speedytinc
Yea good catch. Talc/baby powder inside tire.
Soapy water to mount the tire.
Have also used wd-40 also to mount tires on the road.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:38 pm
by Quickm007
varmint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:13 pm
I use baby powder.
I used Baby powder several year either. Work really well. Able to change the tire in 10 minutes.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:11 pm
by R.V.Anderson
Dish soap works well but it will rust the rims if you leave the residue on the rim.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:18 pm
by rbishop26
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:33 pm
by kmatt2
Bob, To answer your question on tire removal. Triple fine black power could work, but I wouldn't recommend using it, due to the colardial damage. lol
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:36 pm
by RajoRacer
My buddy worked at a Harley tire shop - he used Windex for quick tire removal.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:41 pm
by NU2theT
Huh....I just watched the video over the weekend and don't recall any use of powder in the MTFCA 1-3 Model T tires-II featuring Fred Houston. In the video the tires mounted on the featured split rims and wire wheels slick with Ru-glyde.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:13 pm
by rbishop26
Steve-I'll give the Windex a try. Thank you.
Kevin- I've been trying to remove this rear tire for almost a year. It's 20 years old and hard as cement! Black powder is sounding better and better!
Realistically, I'm thinking of a Sawz-All, but don't have one. Made the mistake of telling the Rental place what I was going to use it for and they
refused to rent it to me.
Had a friend who mistakenly drove his car with a flat tire and the tire, tube, and flap came right off. No damage. Was remounted. I don't care
about damage (I have a new tire, tube, and flap I want to put on). I've driven it around the block, flat, several times and it just hangs in there,
no problem, doesn't budge!!!
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the post.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:53 pm
by Allan
I can't remember the last time I ever saw a tyre shop use talcum to mount any tyres. You'd think they would get with the program! That stuff they brush on can't be doing much good to the bristles on the brush.
Allan from down under.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:44 pm
by John kuehn
I use Go-Jo hand cleaner or what ever hand cleaner that I happen to have. It works well and super slick. Cleans your hands up too!
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:51 pm
by old_charley
For what my experience is worth, I've used corn starch for years. Seems to work as well as talcum for me. The wife (if you have one) probably has some in the pantry. Plus, it's "natural" and you can lick your fingers clean when you're done.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:51 pm
by dmdeaton
varmint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:13 pm
I use baby powder.
Lavender Baby Powder!
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:12 pm
by VowellArt
Derrick Pang and I used WD-40 when we mounted his new tires for his 16...they went on easy in about 10 minuets each, flaps and all.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:30 pm
by ModelTWoods
Bill Mullins wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:45 am
You can use a product called Rubber Glyide that you can get at NAPA stores.
RuGlide is a liquid lubricant, applied with a paint brush or clean rag. Fred Houston used it in the MTFCA tire mount videos and swore by it.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:52 am
by Jim Sims
I should have made it clear I am mounting 21 inch split rim tires and a liquid lube is not wanted.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:23 am
by Quickm007
rbishop26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:13 pm
Steve-I'll give the Windex a try. Thank you.
Kevin- I've been trying to remove this rear tire for almost a year. It's 20 years old and hard as cement! Black powder is sounding better and better!
Realistically, I'm thinking of a Sawz-All, but don't have one. Made the mistake of telling the Rental place what I was going to use it for and they
refused to rent it to me.
Had a friend who mistakenly drove his car with a flat tire and the tire, tube, and flap came right off. No damage. Was remounted. I don't care
about damage (I have a new tire, tube, and flap I want to put on). I've driven it around the block, flat, several times and it just hangs in there,
no problem, doesn't budge!!!
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the post.
Sometime tires are so hard and dry you do not have choice to use a saw... Seriously, that happen to me. But be careful to do not damage the Rim...
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:33 am
by Dan Hatch
Check out my ad on classified page. Dan
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:40 am
by jab35
Jim: You don't need any powder, go jo, etc to mount 21' tires, tubes, flaps on 21' split rims. The rims collapse sufficiently that the tires just slip on, and once everything is aligned the rim can be expanded and locked without using any lube/powder. jb
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:48 am
by ModelTWoods
Jim Sims wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:52 am
I should have made it clear I am mounting 21 inch split rim tires and a liquid lube is not wanted.
Jim, I just got through mounting SEVEN 21" tires on SEVEN split rims, and because the rim can collapse, I didn't need any lubricant of any type. Naturally when mounting clinchers or drop center wires one or the other type would be needed.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:52 am
by Mark Gregush
I have found using the split rims, when expanding the rim, the rubber valve stem wants to move and pull out of the hole in the rim. The talc should help in keeping the tube where it needs to be allowing it to slide inside the tire. This may not have been an issue with metal stems, but the rubber type are not locked into place.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:23 pm
by ivaldes1
New flaps and tubes from Lang's come with oil on them. I wonder why and what kind of oil is it? So I did not use powder on them and they go in easily.
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:52 am
by katy
Re: tire mounting powder
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:00 am
by Mark Gregush
ivaldes1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:23 pm
New flaps and tubes from Lang's come with oil on them. I wonder why and what kind of oil is it? So I did not use powder on them and they go in easily.
Might be something like silicon type lube used as a mold release.
