Accessory front bumpers

Lawrence · Post by **Lawrence** » Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:41 am

Hi guys, can anyone help identify these bumper irons, and maybe show me the bumper that bolts on them? They fit fine on my veteran only, because the fender doesn't come out flush with front of radiator, but they only fit over the side mounts of the radiator, and radiator bolt holds them down.
Irons gave spring loaded tube, and can adjusted for position on a single bolt.

Lawrence · Post by **Lawrence** » Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:42 am

Sorry, chris from new zealand. Thanks

John E. Guitar · Post by **John E. Guitar** » Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:09 am

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Lawrence · Post by **Lawrence** » Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:53 am

In the photos, it doesn't hold on much, only the grub screw on cross member and slotted hole around radiator bolt.
Cheers

Post by **TXGOAT2** » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:02 am

That doesn't look like a very secure attachment to the car frame. I'd be concerned about it causing damage to the radiator, either from the bumper hitting something or the attachmenthardware becoming loose. I'd think that normal vibration would keep the thing loose unless it was constantly tightened, and any impact to the bumper or motion from loose attachment would be transmitted directly to the radiator mounting bracket with damage to the radiator being very likely. Is it possible that the bracket is supposed to go under the radiator mount and lie against the frame, and be bolted tight at that point? I'd think a longer than stock radiator mounting bolt would allow using a a nut and washer to hold the bumper bracket tight to the frame, with enough threads above the nut to allow securing the radiator mount ing bracket on top of it with another nut, washer, and spring atachment. It would probably be necessary to enlarge the mounting hole in the radiator mount and radiator shell to fit over the nut holding the bumper bracket, and use a spring with a large enough diameter to fit over the nut holding the bumper bracket. That would allow bolting the bumper bracket tightly to the frame and also allow the radiator mounting to flex somewhat.

Lawrence · Post by **Lawrence** » Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:45 pm

Hi, yeah totally agree, but i mocked it up on car to see how they fit. There is no way they would go under radiator, as would lift it to high, and the casting is such to go over and around everything, i think they not held by alot, and would just cause damage, but interested in advertising, or pictures of mountings. Brought them off a guy recently, and thought they may be a nice accessory. I can't find anything on here or Google about them. Cheers

Post by **TXGOAT2** » Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:05 pm

The parts themselves look very well-made, but the attachment method does not. Is it possible that it is a non-T item, or that some additional mounting hardware is missing? ? Perhaps it was intended to act somewhat like a curb feeler, rather than a crash bumper, to facilitate parking in tight spots.

Post by **DanTreace** » Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:58 pm

Several types of early bumpers that fit the Ford, by just clamping in place. Today we would think the mount is insufficient, but same with the tiny bars, the lightweight T didn't have a big impact! Bumpers were good to chase off chickens and to 'test' your parking ability, like curb feelers!

Lawrence · Post by **Lawrence** » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:42 pm

Yeah it's a worry that just a grub screw and radiator bolt are the only fixtures! You still have to hang a bumper off it as well, worry is damaging the brass on radiator, better if it bolted to side of chassis. Thanks for the pictures and information, hope to see more
Chris

Allan · Post by **Allan** » Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:30 am

If they came with a spreader bar which fitted in the socket at the front of the dumb irons, it would make for a sturdier assembly. I can't see any bolt holes/thread to facilitate fitting same.

Allan from down under.

Lawrence · Post by **Lawrence** » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:30 am

Hi allan, no the holes are ruff cast, and has a tapper. No sign that it had a spreader bar, but bumper would have acted like that. The adjustable bumper irons are spring loaded and have a solid square block on the end with two bolts to attach bumper. If they were more brass friendly, i would use them

Lawrence · Post by **Lawrence** » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:36 am

Hi allan, no the holes are ruff cast, and has a tapper. No sign that it had a spreader bar, but bumper would have acted like that. The adjustable bumper irons are spring loaded and have a solid square block on the end with two bolts to attach bumper. If they were more brass friendly, i would use them

Chris from down under under

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