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Transmission band nut and washer tool

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:40 pm
by Mikey1968
Hello,
How does this tool work? Is this worth getting?

https://www.modeltford.com/item/3416TNW.aspx

Thanks,
Mike

Re: Transmission band nut and washer tool

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:44 pm
by Quickm007
I try it and I was not very successful with it. I do not recommend it. I will post some pictures of what I did instead, it may help you

Re: Transmission band nut and washer tool

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:55 pm
by Quickm007
I full the transmission with cotton rag at the begging in case I drop a nut or any other pieces inside the transmission. I used Black Tyrap or Black Zip tie in order to compress the springs transmission as well and gave enough space to screw the nuts on the shaft. Hope these pictures will help you.
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Re: Transmission band nut and washer tool

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:52 pm
by Mikey1968
Thanks! I have heard of the rag idea and to be sure to count them. Good idea on the zip ties for the springs. I saw that odd tool and couldn't figure how it would work in the photos. Seemed it might be a bit complicated and may not work so well. You wouldn't want to find out the hard way, right?

My plans are for the disk brakes and will need to eventually pull the brake pedal out.
Cheers,
Mike

Re: Transmission band nut and washer tool

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:17 pm
by VowellArt
I use non-waxed dental floss and position the bands with the tip of band clip/wrench tool, tie them and then slip the shaft through. Usually there is enough length to fit the washer on with out tying it to the nut, but I tie it anyway just to be sure it doesn't fall into the transmission with sewing thread. put the washer and nut onto the thread making a large loop and fit the washer onto the end of the shaft, then thread the nut on. The action of threading the nut on usually breaks the thread which you can then pull out. Once your sure the nut is on good (I usually turn it a couple more times), cut the dental floss and move onto the next one.

I find it easier to do it this way rather than stuffing a bunch of rags into my transmission.

On that tool, there just doesn't seem to be enough room to use it the way it is designed, maybe it works better of the square opening transmission like on the early cars.

Re: Transmission band nut and washer tool

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:41 pm
by DanTreace
Have found the bands washer/nut tool useful only in removing the washer and nut from the shaft, fitting it on the already mounted washer and nut when you want to change out a pedal. Keeps the parts secure. Can't use dental floss as the washer and nut are already on the shaft!

For placing, found that dental floss, looped double around the washer and nut in order of placement is easy, safe, lots of finger room, with no rags to twist up, fouling the area. Floss won't inhibit turning the nut on the shaft, and breaks free after you have the nut threaded on.


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Re: Transmission band nut and washer tool

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:16 pm
by RajoRacer
I use mine quite often & successfully although I do use ny-ties and then slide the pedals through.

Re: Transmission band nut and washer tool

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:48 pm
by CudaMan
I used one years ago when I replaced my stock brake pedal with a Rocky Mountain pedal. It worked OK for me. :)

Re: Transmission band nut and washer tool

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:56 pm
by Norman Kling
Whether or not I use a special tool or tie the nut and washer I still stuff with rags. It is very easy to think you are turning the nut on or off when you let go to re-position the wrench it pops off. The tension of the springs as well as the bands, makes this very likely to happen. So don't leave out the rags. It is much easier to keep the nuts from falling in than to try to fish them out.
Norm

Re: Transmission band nut and washer tool

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:43 pm
by Steve Jelf
I stuff rags, tie with floss, and use the Ford 5-Z-829 wrench.


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It's quicker and easier than the #1917 wrench.

Re: Transmission band nut and washer tool

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:57 am
by Mikey1968
Thanks for all the replies. Still can't envision how that tool is used. Kinda on the fence. Like the dental floss idea.

Re: Transmission band nut and washer tool

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:01 pm
by RajoRacer
That "tool" is spring loaded so you open it, insert the nut & washer then let the tool close - with left hand holding the handle in position over the end of the pedal shaft, spin the knurled segment with your right thumb/finger to start the nut on the threads - quite simple actually.

Re: Transmission band nut and washer tool

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:23 pm
by Mikey1968
Ohhhhhh! I get it now! Thanks!

Re: Transmission band nut and washer tool

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:49 pm
by RajoRacer
You are most welcome !