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In the last picture, the CCM Service store and the Goverment Liquor Store next to each other. The mid 1920's cars and all those thirsty men lined up to by liquor. Must be in Canada and close to the US border. I will bet all those Canadian's aren't buying liquor for their self's.
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Re: Canadians buying liquor? ........ Well, it gets pretty cold up there come October, dont'cha know.... a man needs a little anti-freeze to get him through to May, you betcha!
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I like the 4 door TT. Would like to see more of the body.
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Another set of awesome pics!
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Fifth picture down, is a bit skewed. It almost makes the model T touring car look like a 1911/'12 Hupmobile model 20 touring car?
However, what I find most interesting about the photo, is that one can clearly see the car has the 1913 style windshield, on the 1914 style body. I have seen that combination before. But one does not see them often. Probably an about July of 1913 car with one of the earliest new style touring bodies and the carryover earlier windshield.
One can also occasionally find photos of 1913 style bodies with 1914 style windshields. Ford apparently had a bit of crossover time when both earlier and later styles were being used on both the body and the windshield. A few seemed to have been mixed in both directions.
However, what I find most interesting about the photo, is that one can clearly see the car has the 1913 style windshield, on the 1914 style body. I have seen that combination before. But one does not see them often. Probably an about July of 1913 car with one of the earliest new style touring bodies and the carryover earlier windshield.
One can also occasionally find photos of 1913 style bodies with 1914 style windshields. Ford apparently had a bit of crossover time when both earlier and later styles were being used on both the body and the windshield. A few seemed to have been mixed in both directions.
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Third picture down appears to be a 1915 or 1916 touring car. Is that a leather or imitation end cap on the seat upholstery?
It might be a studio photo?
It might be a studio photo?
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Dallas-AGREED! Neat TT! Great post Tom Rootlieb!
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I never get tires of seeing photos like these.
On the second photo down with the Minneapolis pennant...
Some observations:
I'm going to guess the car is 1910.
The radiator looks like is has the short filler neck, but has the reinforcement bar across the bottom.
The fenders have the bill on them.
The headlamps and sidelight look 1910 ish along with the uneven windshield.
But the thing that jumped out at me was the pinstripe on the hood. Oh my gosh it has pinstripe boxes! Although I have have seen far too many cars with boxes pinstriped on the hood, I have never EVER seen a photo of an original car striped that way. Yes, each car was a individually pinstriped and there was some variation, but using a metaphorical broad brush, hood pinstripe did not include "boxes." I guess I had better save that image.
I never get tires of seeing photos like these.
On the second photo down with the Minneapolis pennant...
Some observations:
I'm going to guess the car is 1910.
The radiator looks like is has the short filler neck, but has the reinforcement bar across the bottom.
The fenders have the bill on them.
The headlamps and sidelight look 1910 ish along with the uneven windshield.
But the thing that jumped out at me was the pinstripe on the hood. Oh my gosh it has pinstripe boxes! Although I have have seen far too many cars with boxes pinstriped on the hood, I have never EVER seen a photo of an original car striped that way. Yes, each car was a individually pinstriped and there was some variation, but using a metaphorical broad brush, hood pinstripe did not include "boxes." I guess I had better save that image.
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Tom-
I never get tires of seeing photos like these.
On the second photo down with the Minneapolis pennant...
Some observations:
I'm going to guess the car is 1910.
The radiator looks like is has the short filler neck, but has the reinforcement bar across the bottom.
The fenders have the bill on them.
The headlamps and sidelight look 1910 ish along with the uneven windshield.
But the thing that jumped out at me was the pinstripe on the hood. Oh my gosh it has pinstripe boxes! Although I have have seen far too many cars with boxes pinstriped on the hood, I have never EVER seen a photo of an original car striped that way. Yes, each car was a individually pinstriped and there was some variation, but using a metaphorical broad brush, hood pinstripe did not include "boxes." I guess I had better save that image.
I never get tires of seeing photos like these.
On the second photo down with the Minneapolis pennant...
Some observations:
I'm going to guess the car is 1910.
The radiator looks like is has the short filler neck, but has the reinforcement bar across the bottom.
The fenders have the bill on them.
The headlamps and sidelight look 1910 ish along with the uneven windshield.
But the thing that jumped out at me was the pinstripe on the hood. Oh my gosh it has pinstripe boxes! Although I have have seen far too many cars with boxes pinstriped on the hood, I have never EVER seen a photo of an original car striped that way. Yes, each car was a individually pinstriped and there was some variation, but using a metaphorical broad brush, hood pinstripe did not include "boxes." I guess I had better save that image.
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21st picture, (9:50 am) is really neat! A touring car, year unknown, between 1917 and 1922 (likely earlier from looking at the wheels?), no 'electrics' package (no starter, generator, or battery). However it has an elaborate fixed top assembly with 'flexible' side windows that slide up into the roof, and front frame pieces that fit around the standard touring windshield! The back and rear sides look like a real sedan! Sort of? An interesting way to upgrade into an enclosed car!
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The first picture, above Keith T's 1910, appears to be a 1920 to 1922 three panel rear tub (not absolutely sure about that?). With no oil sidelamps indicating an electrics (starter etc) package, however, square felloe non-demountable wheels! That was a very popular combination back in the days. I see dozens of pictures that way. My guess is that the daily inconvenience of crank starting was considered more of an issue than the occasional inconvenience of fixing a flat. Got to save a few bucks somewhere?
Thank you Tom R for another great bunch of photos!
And thank you Keith T for those details on the 1910! (I will probably save it also!)
Thank you Tom R for another great bunch of photos!
And thank you Keith T for those details on the 1910! (I will probably save it also!)
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Next to last photo. THE R L TAYLOR MOTOR COMPANY building. Quite a lineup of cars parked in the street. Looks like a couple years old center-door sedan (faded paint), but otherwise not enough details about most of the cars. However, notice that far end of the line. Three chassis awaiting their futures. They must have had a fair business supplying local delivery trucks! Or maybe speedsters? One can dream?
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Picture number 22, also posted 9:50am, a nice runabout with an accessory front bumper. Notice the headlamps have the green visors, a short-lived feature in only part of the 1921 model year. This car also has no oil sidelamps, indicating it has the starter-generator package. It also has the non-demountable wooden felloe wheels! As I said, a rather popular combination back in the days, even though almost nobody today restores their early 1920s T model this way. If I had one myself? I think I would set it up that way 'just because'!
That combination was actually available almost until the end of production in 1927. Era literature suggests that the option ended by 1927, however original era sales records and photographs indicate it actually continued well into 1927.
I once saw an original May 1927 Ford dealer sales receipt listing the non-demountable wheels on it. I wish I had a copy of it.
That combination was actually available almost until the end of production in 1927. Era literature suggests that the option ended by 1927, however original era sales records and photographs indicate it actually continued well into 1927.
I once saw an original May 1927 Ford dealer sales receipt listing the non-demountable wheels on it. I wish I had a copy of it.
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Tom, great pics again.....
Thank you for posting,
Rob
Thank you for posting,
Rob
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Yes, thanks again and again Tom!
Like they say..."the good times keep on rollin"!....
Gosh, what're we gonna do when (or IF) Tom runs out of pics to post!!
Like they say..."the good times keep on rollin"!....
Gosh, what're we gonna do when (or IF) Tom runs out of pics to post!!
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Picture of his car, not mime. Mime is a '12.
I’m reading a book about anti-gravity. I just can’t put it down.
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Wonderful photos Tom - thank you..
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Howcum in a lot of the old photos the people are hardly ever smiling? Just like when one gets a passport or drivers license photo taken we're told "don't smile".
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Driver licence ? How many times are you smiling when you are pulled over? Easier to identify you .