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Construction Plan wanted for Ocean to Ocean #2 car wanted.

Post by Jack Putnam, in Ohio » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:28 pm

I would like to build a replica of the #2 Ford car that was in the 1909 race. I am looking for information on how the body was constructed. Does anyone have plans of pictures of the body construction it would be greatly appreciated. This picture is a replica of a car driven in the 2009 race/ jputnam(at)wcoil.com
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Re: Construction Plan wanted for Ocean to Ocean #2 car wanted.

Post by Susanne » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:59 pm

1975-ish (maybe i was earlier, it was around then) a couple of miscreant Model T Affecianodo's, a heavily mustacio'd guy named Ed, another Ford enthusiast named Larry, and a few other old car miscreants ( :lol: ) built a replicant of one of the coast to coast cars, for enrty into the Ensenada to La Paz race... I know one of them tends to frequent here on occasion, and (in my humble and semi-valid opinion) did a damned smashing good job of it.

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Re: Construction Plan wanted for Ocean to Ocean #2 car wanted.

Post by DanTreace » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:42 pm

Here’s an earlier post with lots of photos. Don’t know of drawings, several have built these, Richard Currier offers these bodies already crafted.

Jack, Should you want to build accurate, the axles on originals were ‘wide track’ 60”!


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Re: Construction Plan wanted for Ocean to Ocean #2 car wanted.

Post by DHort » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:38 pm

Not sure it is still there, but there was a replica at the Museum in Richmond 2 years ago. Maybe it is still there.

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Re: Construction Plan wanted for Ocean to Ocean #2 car wanted.

Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:59 pm

Not sure it is still there, but there was a replica at the Museum in Richmond 2 years ago. Maybe it is still there.
If it's not, maybe they can tell you where it is.
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Re: Construction Plan wanted for Ocean to Ocean #2 car wanted.

Post by DHort » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:03 pm

Not sure it is still there, but there was a replica at the Museum in Richmond 2 years ago.


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Re: Construction Plan wanted for Ocean to Ocean #2 car wanted.

Post by Joe Bell » Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:45 am

Bob at Gaslight in Urbana has one.


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Re: Construction Plan wanted for Ocean to Ocean #2 car wanted.

Post by MWalker » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:32 am

The one which was in the Museum belongs to Milt Roorda in Florida.


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Re: Construction Plan wanted for Ocean to Ocean #2 car wanted.

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:48 pm

Bill Barth made a very nice copy in 1984(?) for the first re-run of the 1909 NY to Seattle race. Maybe he has the plans yet???


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Re: Construction Plan wanted for Ocean to Ocean #2 car wanted.

Post by Bud Delong » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:10 pm

There was one at the press release for the 2003 tour from Calf to Dearborn. Ford flew the couple that started the idea for a tour back to Ford and at the Proving Ground's many invited model T's and several Ford suits!! Very nice feed and i got to meat GZ!! Bud. :D


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Re: Construction Plan wanted for Ocean to Ocean #2 car wanted.

Post by YellowTRacer » Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:59 pm

I can't be much help. When we constructed the "Baja car" we did some serious research for accuracy especially on the body and attached components We began by looking at the one in the Henry Ford Museum and then in talking to Bill Stroppe on another topic found out that his shop constructed that car in 1959, so after that we scrutinized only original photos and available info. If I still have drawings or plans, I have no idea where they are.

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Re: Construction Plan wanted for Ocean to Ocean #2 car wanted.

Post by Jack Putnam, in Ohio » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:59 pm

I thank you all for your assistance. I am really curious about the construction of the area where the angled foot boards corner meets the firewall. In some of the photos it is a flat piece angled from the outside of the body to the firewall and in other photos it is rounded and curves into the firewall. Above all what is supporting the outer edges of the body? The outer edge of body is 5 inches+/- beyond the frame brackets. Too many questions yet to be answered. Thanks again to all.

#4 find those plans please.

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Re: Construction Plan wanted for Ocean to Ocean #2 car wanted.

Post by TRDxB2 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:12 am

Before you get started be sure an authenticate some of the versions that currently exist. There are many differences in the old photos of the original and the museum pieces. Seats, side lights, headlights, exhaust etc. Also there are pictures of #1 that could help as well
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