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Alitle help here?

Post by Jonah D'Avella » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:31 am

So I have heard about a car, called a stuts bearcat, that is this?
F: first F: find
O: on O: oil
R: race R: revive
D: day D: drive
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Re: Alitle help here?

Post by TXGOAT2 » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:45 am

Expensive.

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Re: Alitle help here?

Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:46 am

Harry Stutz built cars. The most famous one was the Stutz Bearcat. It was light and had a powerful engine. Many won races back in the day.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stutz_Bearcat
This Stutz Racer appeared on a HCCA Tour in Sun Valley, ID in 1975. It had raced at Indianapolis. These made the Bearcat popular.
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Re: Alitle help here?

Post by jiminbartow » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:55 am

There was a TV series in the 1970’s called “Bearcats” about the adventures of two mercenaries featuring a 1914 Bearcat. I recall it was pretty good. I only watched for the car which was prominently featured. If they borrowed it from the owner to use for the show, I feel sorry for him because they were very rough on it. I think it is still available on DVD. Jim Patrick

PS. Looks a lot like a “Mercer”. Last Photo

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Mercer:
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Re: Alitle help here?

Post by Jonah D'Avella » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:02 am

ok, thanks! i was given a brass bulb horn that came off of one.
F: first F: find
O: on O: oil
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D: day D: drive
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Re: Alitle help here?

Post by Erik Johnson » Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:37 pm

The Stutz Bearcats used in the TV series "Bearcats!" were replicas built by George Barris on modern Ford pickup drivetrains.

There's a gentlemen in here in Minnesota who currently owns one of the replicas.


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Re: Alitle help here?

Post by tmodeldriver » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:27 am

The Stutz claimed, "There's nothing worser than driving a Mercer".

The Mercer bunch, "You'd have to be nuts to drive a Stutz".

Just a little harmless banter that probably led to a few fistfights. :)


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Post by OilyBill » Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:12 pm

Almost every early car had a joking slogan hooked to it, used to poke fun at it, or needle the owners.

Knox: - "It sure does!"

Brush: "Wooden wheels, wooden frame, wooden axles, wooden run!"

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Re: Alitle help here?

Post by Duey_C » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:55 am

A Mercer or a Stutz. The epitome of a speedster. Cool. :)
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Re: Alitle help here?

Post by Steve Jelf » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:58 am

Almost every early car had a joking slogan hooked to it, used to poke fun at it, or needle the owners.

None more than the Model T:

Found On Road Dead

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The inevitable often happens.
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Re: Alitle help here?

Post by Jonah D'Avella » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:50 pm

I prefer first on race day
F: first F: find
O: on O: oil
R: race R: revive
D: day D: drive
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Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:55 pm

The EMF guys and their rivals have a lot of fun that way too.
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Bearcats intro

Post by Luke » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:58 pm

At least the steering wheel is on the right side ;-)

Although we never had the series here (as far as I'm aware) this may bring back memories for some:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=937oq2h_j9Q

Update: Having just had a quick look at episode one elsewhere I see the first car to appear is in fact a Model T (where's the thumbs up icon?!)

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Re: Alitle help here?

Post by Hudson29 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:11 pm

Cole's Beatles haircut sure looks outta place . . .
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Re: Alitle help here?

Post by Been Here Before » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:24 pm

The Stutz Bearcat appeared in1912. The Ford Owner mag was giving information on building speedsters about 1917/1918. Are the Model T Speedsters to be replicas of the Bearcat?

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Re: Alitle help here?

Post by DanTreace » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:48 pm

There were other 'racer' or sport bodied autos in the early days, appealing the young man of the day. The Bearcat was only highest quality, and it sold to the well to do gentleman.

The Ford became such a platform for expression of racing, as the car was inexpensive after a year or two. Commercial racer bodies appeared in early teens. And many were made by the owners too, from parts of Fords or other cars.



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Re: Alitle help here?

Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:11 pm

There certainly were some other makes. Hudson and Overland were among them. I've always be partial to Mercer.
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