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1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by That Dumb Schmuck » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:49 am

I'm taking off the trunk and mounting the pickup box on my 1925 roadster. Does anyone have instructions, sketches, or images so I do it right?


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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by Original Smith » Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:43 am

You failed to mention if your pickup box is a genuine Ford. Even though Ford boxes were available from March 1925 on, people were still using aftermarket beds. When I installed my original bed, I had a half dozen friends over for the occasion, not wanting to scratch anything. There is only about 1/4" clearance between the back panel of the runabout body and the front panel of the bed.

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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by TRDxB2 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:13 am

That Dumb Schmuck wrote:
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I'm taking off the trunk and mounting the pickup box on my 1925 roadster. Does anyone have instructions, sketches, or images so I do it right?
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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by TRDxB2 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:17 am

Also from SNYDERS --- always have instructions for most of what they sell Just click on the PDF file or the link
https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/Reso ... s-5879.pdf
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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by springerpete » Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:39 am

TDS: ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO DO A DRY RUN BEFORE MOUNTING BODY PARTS. YOU WILL NEED DIFFERENT IRONSFOR THE REAR FENDERS AS THE ROADSTER IRONS WILL NOT WORK WITH THE FORD PICK UP BOX. I HAVE DRAWINGS OF THE CORRECT ONES I'LL SHARE WITH YOU IF YOU EMAIL ME. I AM NOT NORMALLY ON THE T FORUM.
YOU WILL SEE HOLES ALREADY IN THE FRAME FOR THE PU BOX CARRIAGE BOLTS. I RECALL THAT THE METAL IN THE BODY THAT SLIDES DOWN OVER THE T FRAME IS A TIGHT FIT. I'M SURE OTHERS WILL CHIME IN As well. Bill springerpete@roadrunner.com


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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by That Dumb Schmuck » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:19 pm

Sorry for the delay everyone, been working thru the loss of my father. Lots of great information here, thank you very much. Yes, the box I have is an original 1925 box. My dad had picked up the correct fender brackets which I believe are used on a fordor from the same period?
I believe the boxes were made to be interchangeable with the turtle deck, so I hope there are Ford instructions somewhere on how to mount the box. Sounds like mostly trial and error with some luck needed to get it on.
I also saw one with a spare tire mounted under the box behind where the tailgate swings down. Can anyone confirm if that was original? Any idea what those brackets might look like? I could make something, but would love to have it be close to how it was originally.


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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by Original Smith » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:33 pm

The fender brackets are only made for the factory metal pickup bed. A standard fender bracket will work however. I have a list of all the parts that are required to mount this bed, but I don't know how to find it! Sorry.

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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by John Warren » Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:15 am

A rest stop post for a roadster or touring car top will work!
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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by That Dumb Schmuck » Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:28 pm

For some of those out in the forums who have steel factory boxes on your 1925 roadsters, can you take some pictures of the mounting points to the car? A picture is worth a thousand words... a picture with a ruler showing the scale has got to be worth 10,000 words? ;)


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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by KeithG » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:26 pm

Hi Travis, No, There was not a spare tire mounting bracket under the pickup box or anywhere else on the '25 Roadster Pickups. On our '26 Roadster Pickup we have the spare tire mounted under the box, but it's a home made setup. It works ok, but it's not outstanding.
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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by That Dumb Schmuck » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:16 am

Thanks. I'll have to get creative or maybe just mount it on the driver's side fender.

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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by Retro54 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:05 pm

For what its worth, last year Dad and I built a bed for my 1915. I documented the build in several threads that can be seen here : viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17287&p=131129#p131129

You know what they say, pictures can be worth a thousand words. Perhaps these will give you some ideas.

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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by That Dumb Schmuck » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:42 am

That box looks awesome. Lots of good ideas for how to make it look like it's old without breaking the bank buying actual old parts. Thanks for sharing.


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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by Scott_Conger » Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:42 pm

Andrew

I just looked at your thread from last year...your results are fabulous! You've really put together a nice car...I remember the pix from when you first got it. Am envious of your time with your dad...my dad and I are separated by an entire country and would love to do such a job with him if it was possible
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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by Duckwing » Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:30 pm

I will ditto the suggestion to do an installation trial run. My original but rusty 26 PU bed went off and on several times. The bed I restored didn’t match up well with the body frame holes - almost but not quite. There were interference issues with the body and front bed panel as well as the filler panels. Not sure a 25 used filler panels. Anyway, slide it on to make sure the holes line up good.

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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by Retro54 » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:35 pm

That Dumb Schmuck wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:42 am
That box looks awesome. Lots of good ideas for how to make it look like it's old without breaking the bank buying actual old parts. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you! Yes, if you take time and think it through, its possible. While I may be an architect, its my father who is skilled in building with 'Model T vernacular' in mind.

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Re: 1925 roadster pickup box mounting

Post by Retro54 » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:37 pm

Scott_Conger wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:42 pm
Andrew

I just looked at your thread from last year...your results are fabulous! You've really put together a nice car...I remember the pix from when you first got it. Am envious of your time with your dad...my dad and I are separated by an entire country and would love to do such a job with him if it was possible
Scott, thank you for your kind words! You're so full of knowledge here on the forum, I really respect and am humbled by your words. Yes, the time with dad is immeasurable. He's quite the self taught mechanic. Hope to have her on the road in a week or two for good! Mounting my tires next weekend!

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