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Date this engine for me.

Post by StanHowe » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:15 pm

This is a Made in Canada engine. Who can tell me a date based on the serial number and also tell me what the 1229 on the side means. Obviously pre-starter but an exact date??? Ribbed pedals.
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Re: Date this engine for me.

Post by Barry Loucks » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:26 pm

June 1921 according to the serial number. 12/29 must be December 29, 1920

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Re: Date this engine for me.

Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:31 pm

This list tells me it's 1918.
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Here is another:
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When did I do that?


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Post by StanHowe » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:39 pm

Thanks, I spent about 15 minutes looking for that list and even google didn't find it. It is the engine out of the wood cab truck we have coming up.


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Post by Kerry » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:28 pm

Another example of Canada making blocks before the first thought dating of 1919.

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Re: Date this engine for me.

Post by Mark Gregush » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:36 pm

Wouldn't the cast date be 12/29/1917? So that number could be first part of 1918 car build date.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

1925 Cut down pickup
1920 Dodge touring
1948 Ford F2 pickup


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Post by Kerry » Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:09 pm

Mark, by engine number, yes and making it the earliest block I've seen as yet with made in Canada on it.


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Re: Date this engine for me.

Post by kmatt2 » Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:17 pm

Stan, Does the wood cab TT truck that the engine came out of have the early type worm housings with the beading, ( plus the 2 spider gear differential if you know ) ? Maybe even solid rubber rear wheels ? Your truck could be a genuine 1918 model, the frist year of the TT.


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Post by John kuehn » Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:33 pm

There was a post about T serial no’s. awhile back about how neat and straight the engine stamp guy on the line was aligning the no’s.
This engine stamping isn’t exactly straight and spaced and looks to be done by hand. He got the job done though. Or if he was using some type of stamp jig and the no’s. got jiggled around. Interesting since this appears to be an unaltered block.


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Re: Date this engine for me.

Post by Allan » Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:56 pm

Stan, Canadian engines had ribbed pedals all the way til 1925.
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Re: Date this engine for me.

Post by StanHowe » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:51 am

I'll probably get in trouble for posting a truck that is for sale at the auction. I only have a couple photos of it, this is the engine that is with it but we don't know if it came with it or is one that Leonard found and put with it. The had a huge farm in Canada. Both this truck and the green one came from near their farm. Also, their US farm is about 20 miles from the Canadian border (established in 1910) so there was a lot of back and forth before it was clamped down on.
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Post by StanHowe » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:54 am

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This is the 1919 Canadian truck.


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Re: Date this engine for me.

Post by StanHowe » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:58 am

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Post by StanHowe » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:58 am

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Post by Kerry » Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:02 am

Must have found the engine for it, steel firewall and pressed running board brackets, 1920's


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Post by BobShirleyAtlantaTx » Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:09 am

Stan, Thanks for this and all your post. I have always considered you a wonderful asset to the club and love to hear about what you do. As a paying MTFCA member, Please do not let the negative people influence what you post. Again Thanks for the beautiful pictures.


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Re: Date this engine for me.

Post by Dan Hatch » Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:52 am

Looks to have 24/25 front fenders. However these were used all the way through 27 too. Dan


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Re: Date this engine for me.

Post by kmatt2 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:17 pm

Thanks Stan for posting the pictures. I agree with Dan, the chassis looks 1924-25 with some older parts mixed in. Note that all TT's used channel steel running board brackets that attached to the side frame rail but didn't go across frame.
That is a interesting wood bed and the cab looks to use a 24 type coupe cowl.


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Re: Date this engine for me.

Post by StanHowe » Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:04 pm

That's kind of what I thought, too. But whatever you list on the advertising somebody will tell you you don't know what you're talking about so we just listed it as a wooden cab Model TT. Who knows what engine it had? I sure don't. It is close to 100 years old and was bought to go to work on the farm and probably did.


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Re: Date this engine for me.

Post by Scott Gilham » Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:19 am

the rear end doesn't have the beaded center housing. I know the question was asked.


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Sorry, she's not my type... and I'm married :mrgreen:

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