Counting Cars from a different angle
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Counting Cars from a different angle
We've tried to estimate how many Ts are still in existence...how successfully, I don't know.
I had a thought today. Are there any records of how many Ts were "totaled" or lost do to accident or disasters ?
Kinda reverse analysis.
I had a thought today. Are there any records of how many Ts were "totaled" or lost do to accident or disasters ?
Kinda reverse analysis.
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Re: Counting Cars from a different angle
i would say the biggest lost would be the scrap drive for world war two. charley
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Re: Counting Cars from a different angle
My Uncle Bill rolled a Center Door coming home from Church when he was a young man. That's one, you only have 14 million and some hundred thousands to go. Good luck, Dean
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Re: Counting Cars from a different angle
My dad collided with a trolley car in Los Angeles and wrecked his coupe. That happened around 1929. Grandpa bought him a brand new Model A so he came out with a new car!
Norm
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Re: Counting Cars from a different angle
I have collected telephone insulators since I was a kid. This took me hunting through
fields, barns, ravines, forests, anywhere old junk might accumulate. I cannot begin to
tally the number of pre-war hulks I saw, climbed over, played in, while out on those
adventures .... hundreds, if not more ! By the late 70's, our rural area was being engulfed
in sprawl and all those unsightly farms and fields were cleaned up and made "beautiful".
I imagine most of it went to local landfills.
fields, barns, ravines, forests, anywhere old junk might accumulate. I cannot begin to
tally the number of pre-war hulks I saw, climbed over, played in, while out on those
adventures .... hundreds, if not more ! By the late 70's, our rural area was being engulfed
in sprawl and all those unsightly farms and fields were cleaned up and made "beautiful".
I imagine most of it went to local landfills.
More people are doing it today than ever before !
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Re: Counting Cars from a different angle
And there was Laurel and Hardy .... They were a little tuff on the old T's
24-28 TA race car, 26 Canadian touring, 25 Roadster pickup, 14 Roadster, and 11AB Maxwell runabout
Keep it simple and keep a good junk pile if you want to invent something
Keep it simple and keep a good junk pile if you want to invent something
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Re: Counting Cars from a different angle
Buster too !!John Warren wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:00 pmAnd there was Laurel and Hardy .... They were a little tuff on the old T's
Like how many 69 Chargers wasted on "The Dukes of Hazard"
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Re: Counting Cars from a different angle
I doubt this will work as Ford can’t even tell us accurately how many cars they made.
Sure when the stopped production the last one was stamped 15,007,033 but that was engine numbers not cars. They continued to make engines until 1941. Then when you look at the numbers in the Model T Encyclopedia there are gaps in the engine numbers. Some of these gaps were for production outside the US but I would guess the bookkeeping is very suspect. Then they made replacement engines which were not numbered. I wonder how they reported those to the tax colldctor.
Just so you don’t think I’m picking on Ford, Toyota don’t release the number of cars they manufacture but lump cars and SUVs into the same class.
The classic one was Lotus who when they changed body vendors used the same numbers during the overlap. So the series one run from 1 to 275 and series two from 250 to 999 plus s few more bodies to replace crashed vehicles. I suspect the latter was deliberate to fool the tax man.
So I think a guess of 50,000 Model Ts plus or minus 25,000 is as accurate as you’ll ever achieve.
Sure when the stopped production the last one was stamped 15,007,033 but that was engine numbers not cars. They continued to make engines until 1941. Then when you look at the numbers in the Model T Encyclopedia there are gaps in the engine numbers. Some of these gaps were for production outside the US but I would guess the bookkeeping is very suspect. Then they made replacement engines which were not numbered. I wonder how they reported those to the tax colldctor.
Just so you don’t think I’m picking on Ford, Toyota don’t release the number of cars they manufacture but lump cars and SUVs into the same class.
The classic one was Lotus who when they changed body vendors used the same numbers during the overlap. So the series one run from 1 to 275 and series two from 250 to 999 plus s few more bodies to replace crashed vehicles. I suspect the latter was deliberate to fool the tax man.
So I think a guess of 50,000 Model Ts plus or minus 25,000 is as accurate as you’ll ever achieve.
Tony Bowker
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.