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Posted: **Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:37 am**

Fitted new set of band in my 23 touring , only problem is when I step on the reverse pedal it goes back a bit then seams to bind up and stall , what could be the problem ?

Posted: **Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:45 am**

Low band too tight?

Posted: **Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:05 am**

Is it possible the reverse band is hanging over the low drum?
Norm

Posted: **Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:28 pm**

This t was a running unit with NO OTHER recent other work??

These are not kevlars with a high spot loop in the lining? Bands are not over tight? When you run it, NO extra tripple gear noise?( good clue for over tight bands)
You are not unknowingly hitting 2 pedals at he same time? Can you see your feet & pedals during operation? Extra large shoe size?

Not being silly here. I had a buddy that went thru 2 sets of tripple gears by unknowingly engaging 2 bands(low & rev)on a regular basis untill I observed it for myself. He was totally unaware. I think he solved the problem with a reverse pedal extension & the awareness.

Posted: **Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:45 pm**

A reverse pedal extension helps a lot to get a clean reverse! If your a big footed guy it’s almost a necessity to have one! And yes it does keep you from engaging the clutch and reverse at the same time. I wear size 13 and guys with bigger feet that that would have a tough time it seems to me.

Posted: **Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:11 pm**

Another thing is to engage neutral with the parking brake lever in the neutral position. Then use the left foot for reverse, of course, being careful not to push the clutch while using the reverse. That also frees the right foot for use with the foot brake.
Norm

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:03 am**

The above is the exact reason I drive bare feet! I use rubber covers on my pedals for obvious reasons....
Alan in Western Australia

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:01 pm**

In 1926, Ford addressed the small pedal problem by building pedal extensions onto the outer clutch and brake pedals, but could do nothing about improving access to the center reverse pedal. Being on the outside, I can see where pedal extensions would help on the brake and clutch pedals on pre-1926 T’s, but being in the middle, with only a finite space between the brake and clutch pedals, what sort of pedal extension could be installed on the reverse pedal provide more room for big feet other than bending the brake and clutch pedals outward to increase the space? At 6’ 3” and 230lbs., I have size 14 shoes and must either tilt my foot and use the outer right edge of my shoe or use the point of my shoe to depress the reverse pedal. I don’t go barefoot, ever. Jim Patrick

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Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:17 pm**

So no big feet , that's not my problem ! Had the car out today reversed no problem when just started , after a run when hot only backs up about 4 yards then seams to bind up and stop , was watching where my foot was definately only reverse pressed ! Thanks

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:45 pm**

speedytinc wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:28 pm
Q1 This t was a running unit with NO OTHER recent other work??

Q2 These are not kevlars with a high spot loop in the lining? Q3 Did you install kevlars thru the inspection cover? Q4 Bands are not over tight? Q5 When you run it, NO extra tripple gear noise?( good clue for over tight bands)

Q6 Did you have your parking brake in neutral for that last test?

When hot bushings binding.
Q1 This t was a running unit with NO OTHER previous recent other work??
try a bunch of low pedal, see if the tripple gear bushings start to bind. Make sure your oil level is full.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:56 pm**

I hate guessing games, and this is one of them...that said, I'll break my rule of not jumping in with zero knowledge of the car and suggest that perhaps you have a broken spring on your parking break shoes and have lined shoes (or a lining has come unbonded). If the car backed up when cool and then played games with you later, the lining may have simply gotten hot enough to start grabbing when going backwards like a self-energizing shoe.

I'd jack up the rear end...look for excessive play in the axles to eliminate pinion binding and then try rotating wheels backwards when this "no reversing" manifests itself. This will take the transmission and clutch out of the mechanical loop and you will be testing fits and performance within ONLY the rear end.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:28 pm**

On Scott.s note, I was wondering if it had outside brakes and when backing up was self energizing.

Posted: **Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:13 am**

Fractured driven gear sleeve.

Posted: **Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:05 pm**

I keep wondering if it has something to do with removable band ears.

Posted: **Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:31 pm**

No external brakes , new bands were fitted after removing the hogs head , to repair a bad oil leak , I never drove the car due to a bad oil leak . Will report back after my next run out !

Posted: **Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:17 pm**

You have not answered my 6 questions.

Posted: **Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:50 pm**

John kuehn wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:45 pm
A reverse pedal extension helps a lot to get a clean reverse! If your a big footed guy it’s almost a necessity to have one! And yes it does keep you from engaging the clutch and reverse at the same time. I wear size 13 and guys with bigger feet that that would have a tough time it seems to me.

As a Bigfoot I needed the reverse extender and I still have to turn my foot sideways to be sure not to push other pedals. And I have to look at it while I'm starting in reverse to be certain.

We all have our crosses to bear.

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